McMetal
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I love the hell out of Drai, but Barrie+Jost+1st is a horrendous overpayment. He's really good, but not that good.
I don't think you'll get Draisaitl for much less. But yeah, it would be smarter to just not make the deal.It really is.
I love the hell out of Drai, but Barrie+Jost+1st is a horrendous overpayment. He's really good, but not that good.
We're a better team with those pieces. I'd think about two of them but even than I think we're better off sticking the course.I love Leon, but no way I move all three of Barrie + Jost + first for him.
Like Draisaitl??It really isnt. But I'm not about to get into this debate again. Some people just over value our players a tonne. It is what it is.
We're a better team with those pieces. I'd think about two of them but even than I think we're better off sticking the course.
I agree this is an overpayment and almost never agree with Pierce, but Barrie is overvalued as well. Move him now allows the AVs to get full value and prior to the future problems is good player management. It hurts to lose Jost and 1st, but the Oilers are also taking a risk moving a possible 1C for a player with 2 years remaining.
It really isnt. But I'm not about to get into this debate again. Some people just over value our players a tonne. It is what it is.
The one time you agree with Pierce is because it involves Barrie being traded? Shocking.
I don’t believe Lucia or Sekera have been mentioned?So...why exactly are we discussing overpaying for an overpaid Edmonton player again?
I’m also surprised considering his love for Barrie
So...why exactly are we discussing overpaying for an overpaid Edmonton player again?
Drai isn't overpaid. It looked like maybe he would be when he first signed that deal, but the new deals given out this summer to other Centers are pretty strong indicators that he essentially got market value for himself.
Leon Draisaitl is a #1 Centre (lower end right now but he’s still a 1C) who is 22 years old and making 8.5M a year for the next 7 years. And somehow that’s a bad thing?
He just scored 70 points in 78 games while being quite good (not great) defensively. He scored 77 the year before (largely thanks to Mcdavid but still) and has 16 points in 13 career playoff games (this time no thanks to Mcdavid).
He makes up about 10% of his team’s cap (it’ll be less and less as we approach each of his remaining 7 years) and he has been in on 32% of his team’s production over the last two years including playoffs.
People refuse to adapt to a continually growing cap world but that is a very fair contract.
It really isnt. But I'm not about to get into this debate again. Some people just over value our players a tonne. It is what it is.
Welcome to the era of Avs fans with a warped sense of cap value due to MacKinnon making 6.3M.
The thing is, its becoming increasingly obvious in todays NHL that it's not Defense that is the true secret to winning. It's Centers.
Has nothing to do with what Mack is making. The Avs always sign their guys early and for less.
People are talking about taking on a 8.5m AAV contract, dealing multiple pieces for said contract, then essentially placing said contract on the 2nd line. Unless of course you believe Draisaitl to be a better C than Mack and want to move Mack to wing or to the 2nd line.
Our GM has done a good enough job with his salary structure that we can afford to put an 8.5M value player on our second line. That’s just good management and how you build depth. Pittsburgh has a guy making over 8M centering their second line. That doesn’t make them dumb or doesn’t means it’s a waste of that player by playing him on the second line. It means they straight up dummy secondary competition because they have elite level talent playing on their second line.Has nothing to do with what Mack is making. The Avs always sign their guys early and for less.
People are talking about taking on a 8.5m AAV contract, dealing multiple pieces for said contract, then essentially placing said contract on the 2nd line. Unless of course you believe Draisaitl to be a better C than Mack and want to move Mack to wing or to the 2nd line.