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Honour Over Glory

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7.57 x 7 for those as dumb as me - that read likes a pretty fair deal to me. Fair dos to Guerin for getting that sorted quickly without going mad - and damn him for making the rental market less interesting.
He also signed Fiala to a decent 3m/yr contract for 2yrs.

I still think people have it wrong about Billy and I look forward to seeing him really put a stamp on the Wild. Unlike Botts. He didn't inherit a damn thing for talent, no Eichel, etc.
 

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Wow a whole 3 games for Kuzsnortsov?

The guy lied, then got caught, to me that's someone that deserves far more than 3 games.
Hes being suspended for lying to the NHL. I believe anything over 5 games he can grieve, and there is nothing in the CBA that really defines this. If the NHL had tried to be more harsh it would have been grieved and probably overturned.
 

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Hes being suspended for lying to the NHL. I believe anything over 5 games he can grieve, and there is nothing in the CBA that really defines this. If the NHL had tried to be more harsh it would have been grieved and probably overturned.
That's a joke of a rule to be honest.

A guy abuses the trust of his team and the league and then lies and gets caught and all they can do is give this piece of shit, 3 games because if they give him more, like he truly deserves, his snorting ass will grieve it and get it lessened.

Way to hold people accountable.
 

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He also signed Fiala to a decent 3m/yr contract for 2yrs.

I still think people have it wrong about Billy and I look forward to seeing him really put a stamp on the Wild. Unlike Botts. He didn't inherit a damn thing for talent, no Eichel, etc.

I missed that about Fiala, that's a strong start.

I think he and Botterill will be interesting contrasts - Botts has been given a strong core between Eichel and Dahlin, but with absolutely nothing to go around it; I think Minnesota have decent depth, but crap for a core. Will be fun to see which scenario ends up better.
 
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I missed that about Fiala, that's a strong start.

I think he and Botterill will be interesting contrasts - Botts has been given a strong core between Eichel and Dahlin, but with absolutely nothing to go around it; I think Minnesota have decent depth, but crap for a core. Will be fun to see which scenario ends up better.
Botts botched the ROR deal and got back trash for a quality player then drafted a bunch of high pick players. He's hired a coach he recently fired, has no proper offensive depth but has slowly fixed his defense with Montour and the addition of Dahlin via being terrible.

Bill has to actually flex his muscle on this team.
 

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Botts botched the ROR deal and got back trash for a quality player then drafted a bunch of high pick players. He's hired a coach he recently fired, has no proper offensive depth but has slowly fixed his defense with Montour and the addition of Dahlin via being terrible.

Bill has to actually flex his muscle on this team.

ROR wanting out and ownership not wanting to pay his signing bonus left Botterill with no good choices there. And there's still a lot of work to be done given the Buffalo team he inherited. A lot.
 

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ROR wanting out and ownership not wanting to pay his signing bonus left Botterill with no good choices there. And there's still a lot of work to be done given the Buffalo team he inherited. A lot.

I think acquiring Montour and Miller for nothing of real consequence and still getting a 1st, 2nd and Tage Thompson who was probably the 3rd best prospect for ROR was a pretty solid deal. Notice how from September to December nobody had a problem with the ROR deal.
 

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Botts botched the ROR deal and got back trash for a quality player then drafted a bunch of high pick players. He's hired a coach he recently fired, has no proper offensive depth but has slowly fixed his defense with Montour and the addition of Dahlin via being terrible.

Bill has to actually flex his muscle on this team.

Not really sure how Botts is to blame for the offensive depth. He acquired Skinner for nothing added Sheary for nothing and is slowly building that team.
 

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I think acquiring Montour and Miller for nothing of real consequence and still getting a 1st, 2nd and Tage Thompson who was probably the 3rd best prospect for ROR was a pretty solid deal. Notice how from September to December nobody had a problem with the ROR deal.
Those are good deals for sure, but the rest of the garbage he got for ROR was just unfortunate as well as his coaching decision at the time and still not really addressing the depth issue on his forward group outside of getting Skinner.

The Defense though, I've been very vocal about him fixing that, that's a no brainer. But I still think he's had more to work with than Guerin has so far, Guerin took over a decimated Wild team, definitely a lot more work to do there.
 

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Those are good deals for sure, but the rest of the garbage he got for ROR was just unfortunate as well as his coaching decision at the time and still not really addressing the depth issue on his forward group outside of getting Skinner.

The Defense though, I've been very vocal about him fixing that, that's a no brainer. But I still think he's had more to work with than Guerin has so far, Guerin took over a decimated Wild team, definitely a lot more work to do there.

The “garbage” he got for ROR was a 1st, 2nd and highly touted prospect. Sobotka and Berglund were because ownership didn’t want to pay ROR’s bonus and St Louis would.

Botts was on record saying he was offered better packages following the bonus. Hard to fault a GM when his boss tied his hand. Kind of like Dorian in Ottawa.
 

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That's a joke of a rule to be honest.

A guy abuses the trust of his team and the league and then lies and gets caught and all they can do is give this piece of ****, 3 games because if they give him more, like he truly deserves, his snorting ass will grieve it and get it lessened.

Way to hold people accountable.
Oh I agree, there is precedent for a team to cancel his contract, the Kings did that to Richards, but good luck convincing the Caps to do this. I think the NHL knew their hands were tied. The Caps probably wanted nothing to happen and so did the NHLPA. Im curious how this might be changed in the new CBA.
 
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Oh I agree, there is precedent for a team to cancel his contract, the Kings did that to Richards, but good luck convincing the Caps to do this. I think the NHL knew their hands were tied. The Caps probably wanted nothing to happen and so did the NHLPA. Im curious how this might be changed in the new CBA.
Its a joke how they treat it. Oh a slap on the wrist and go to some resort to clean up.
 
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The “garbage” he got for ROR was a 1st, 2nd and highly touted prospect. Sobotka and Berglund were because ownership didn’t want to pay ROR’s bonus and St Louis would.

Botts was on record saying he was offered better packages following the bonus. Hard to fault a GM when his boss tied his hand. Kind of like Dorian in Ottawa.
Thanks tsn for telling me info I already knew about. You're arguing my thoughts on it.
 

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McAvoy pulled a Werenski...new trend for top 4 D men RFAs I guess...
 

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I'm a bit late on this:

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WOW.

What a deal for Boston.

And, truth be told, when the new CBA and TV contracts happen before this deal expires, it will turn out to be a hell of a deal for McAvoy in the long run.

In the meantime, he insures the hell out of himself to protect that next contract, in case, god forbid, something happens.
 
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