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Honour Over Glory

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Dan Rosen’s latest article only reaffirms how flawed the selection process is for the ASG. He had to leave a player like Barkov off to make room for a player from Detroit. Yes, Detroit...
I mean, Mantha or Larkin would be a decent add but yeah I get the whole represent each team crap being what the NHL loves. Not a fan of the asg to begin with.
 

Tacitus Kilgore

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Dan Rosen’s latest article only reaffirms how flawed the selection process is for the ASG. He had to leave a player like Barkov off to make room for a player from Detroit. Yes, Detroit...

That is definitely wrong. But funny enough, I wouldn't be surprised if Barkov was totally fine with the time off
 
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I wish we had John Carlson. Dude is a beast. Look at what he's doing with the Caps. If Letang was half as good as some of you think this team would have been way better over the years.
 
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I wish we had John Carlson. Dude is a beast. Look at what he's doing with the Caps. If Letang was half as good as some of you think this team would have been way better over the years.

Letangs biggest problem has been health. During the 2016 run he was an absolute beast and could have won the smythe. Albeit it seem to be rare these days but when hes 100% healthy, Letang is a top-5 D in the league. He doesn't get enough respect.
 
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Letangs biggest problem has been health. During the 2016 run he was an absolute beast and could have won the smythe. Albeit it seem to be rare these days but when hes 100% healthy, Letang is a top-5 D in the league. He doesn't get enough respect.

That's like saying James Conner would be a HoFer if he could stay healthy. Being healthy/able to play is step 1. Not to mention when Letang is finally on the ice he's not as good as some of you think he is.
 

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I wish we had John Carlson. Dude is a beast. Look at what he's doing with the Caps. If Letang was half as good as some of you think this team would have been way better over the years.

Dude, Letang has a higher career PPG. It's only THIS year that Carlson is scoring at an...unsustainable rate. Pens are 100% same situation at best if Letang was like playing like this year's Carlson.

GTFO thinking Carlson is something Letang hasn't been.

Literally, only thing he has on Letang is more GP per season.

What you've just said is daft. And I'm not even a Tanger fan.
 

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Dude, Letang has a higher career PPG.

GTFO thinking Carlson is something Letang hasn't been.

Literally, only thing he has on Letang is more GP per season.

Dude, I don't care about PPG from my defensemen.

Yeah, give me a defensmen that can actually play.

Letang has 3 years and 50 games on Carlson. Letang on his career is +67 and Carlson is +101 with 50 less games.

Carlson is way better than Letang. He has a real hockey IQ he knows when to pinch and make plays. He puts up points and doesn't kill his team in the defensive zone.
 

EightyOne

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Haha wtf

Literally just told me points are irrelevant...then bust out +/- lol

Oh man
 
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SouthGeorge

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Yeah, points are nice from defensemen if they aren't killing you on the other end.
 

EightyOne

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Yeah, points are nice from defensemen if they aren't killing you on the other end.

I get the " wtf line change" and the fact Ledang coughs pucks up and results in breakaways against.

But. I dunno if a more stay in position guy would really have been better. Maybe. But it still took a LONG time for anyone to really point to Carlson as anything special
 

SouthGeorge

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I get the " wtf line change" and the fact Ledang coughs pucks up and results in breakaways against.

But. I dunno if a more stay in position guy would really have been better. Maybe. But it still took a LONG time for anyone to really point to Carlson as anything special

We won a cup with Ron Hainsey and no Letang. What do you mean you dunno if a more stay in position guy would be better? Defensmen like Carlson all these years and we double in Cups easily. Not to mention Letang has been throwing pucks up to the best player in the world his whole career.
 

EightyOne

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I guess I just think he's an average 1D and putting any other average 1D that has been a top pairing guy every year over the last decade just doesn't move the needle closer to success like you.
 

SouthGeorge

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Man Letang is criminally underrated around here

Overrated? You can't win a Championship without somebody and the mere thought of trading him is unfathomable and causes an uproar. Could you imagine if the Steelers won a Super Bowl without Ben... Eagles won a Super Bowl without Wentz and now they are calling for his head. They aren't calling him criminally underrated. Letang is criminally overrated around here.
 

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Defensmen like Carlson all these years and we double in Cups easily.

Oh, come on, admit that your absurd vendetta against Letang is a really elaborate joke already. "Double in Cups easily"... wouldn't have happened even if we had had Erik Karlsson, rather than John Carlson.
 

SouthGeorge

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Oh, come on, admit that your absurd vendetta against Letang is a really elaborate joke already. "Double in Cups easily"... wouldn't have happened even if we had had Erik Karlsson, rather than John Carlson.

Karlsson went to the Sharks and they have TWO "norris candidate defensmen" and don't even make the WCF. Sharks aren't even a playoff team right now. Burns is -16. I don't like either of their games. Carlson is legit. Have you ever watched him play?
 

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Carlson is legit. Have you ever watched him play?

Have you? Because he isn't some guy just breaking out into the league, he was a PP specialist with mediocre at best defensive skills for many years. Kudos to him for improving his game so much but overall Karlsson and Letang have had far more impressive careers. Go on the Caps forum and ask them if say 2015 Carlson was better than EK65 if you don't believe me. Or you can keep living in your fantasy world where we would be better off waiving Letang.
 
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Ms Maggie

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Is it possible that Letang has had a great career and is still a very good D man AND Carlson is playing lights out, fantastic year? Or is it one or the other?
 

Ms Maggie

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Doess McD plan on staying in edmonton?

I mean, at 12.5mil per, he will be there until there is a major league shattering blockbuster style trade where he is moved to become the new face-of-the-franchise player. Posters here know which teams would be in a position to make that kind of move and I'm not one of them.

I mean, does he plan on staying there past 5 years at least.
McD strikes me as a small market kinda guy. And I mean that as a compliment. Now will he want to win a Cup and leave E if it looks like they aren't on that path? Who knows. I wouldn't blame him.
 

BHD

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Both Letang and Carlson are game-breakers on the backend. Yes, Carlson isn't the strongest guy defensively. However, he's so good at moving the puck that it isn't that big of a deal. Also, lol @ the power play comment. He's one of the reasons why their power play - and offence in general - is so prolific.
 

Big Friggin Dummy

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Letang is much better all-around than Carlson, but Carlson's in another universe right now when it comes to offensive impact.

Letang's strength was never his offensive production, it's that he's capable of playing 25-30 minutes a night in all situations, excelling in all of them. His real value to this team is in the ability to play huge minutes and utilize his skating to play both a shutdown and transition role.
 

SouthGeorge

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Letang is much better all-around than Carlson, but Carlson's in another universe right now when it comes to offensive impact.

Letang's strength was never his offensive production, it's that he's capable of playing 25-30 minutes a night in all situations, excelling in all of them. His real value to this team is in the ability to play huge minutes and utilize his skating to play both a shutdown and transition role.

Huh? It's not because of his defense... Carlson is +101 for his career with 50 less games. Letang is +67 playing with two of the best players in the world for a decade.
 

AlphaMikeFoxtrots

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Slightly different tack here, but it's pretty amusing how many fans of other teams are mad online rn that they're not winning the "most injured" award here in early december :huh:

maybe...enjoy it, instead?
 
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