Around Hockey XXI (All Non-Jackets Hockey talk in here)

[DarkandStormy]

You may be surprised to hear this, but Tom Wilson did a goonish thing late in the 3rd period down 3 goals again.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Ice Guardians. Coming close to bumping Slap Shot as my all time favorite hockey flick. An extremely well done documentary on fighting/concussion issues in hockey.

Brett Gallant of the Cleveland Monsters is prominently featured.

 

[DJA]

Couldn’t have been a worse night for the CBJ in the standings.

 

[ViD]

NYR and TML go to OT which is the worst outcome for us, Panarin with 51 points in 39 games

 

[EspenK]

Duclair is an All Star.

 

[Jovavic]

Duclair is an All Star.

Exhibit A in why "every team needs to have an all star" is a f***ing joke

 

[ViD]

Caps defeat Canes in regulation which is good for us

 

[Speedy Sanderson]

Caps defeat Canes in regulation which is good for us

3 back of Philly, and 4 of Carolina, with same number of games played. Would be nice to pull even, or be within a point, by All-Star break.

 

[The Jones Zone]

Foudy has a brother who I think will be in this summer's draft

Be interesting to see what scouts think of him and who drafts him

Jean-Luc Foudy at eliteprospects.com

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Foudy has a brother who I think will be in this summer's draft

Be interesting to see what scouts think of him and who drafts him

Jean-Luc Foudy at eliteprospects.com

I thought I read somewhere he's predicted as a mid to late first rounder? Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[Viqsi]

Color me surprised. I thought he was safe until the offseason at least.

Just so long as they don't hire Babcock. I mean, yeah, I had a grumpy ultimatum or two with Torts as well, but at least then he'd had time to reflect on his errors before coming here. Babcock hasn't.

 

[EspenK]

Mike Milbury on NBC's hockey game said he though there were character issues with the Preds C's - Joey, Duchene & Turris. Didn't expound much on the comment but I thought he didn't consider them as 1C's but collectively 1aC's.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Reilly to IR with broken ankles?

 

[Jovavic]

Preds GM: coach is safe, all players are available

Preds GM a week later: bye coach

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Preds hire Hynes

 

[Cyclones Rock]

 

[Hipster Letestu]

Preds GM: coach is safe, all players are available

Preds GM a week later: bye coach

They probably saw what happened in Toronto after they fired Babcock, and were hoping firing Laviolette would have the same effect. The problem is Duchene isn't Tavares, and Johansen sure as hell isn't Matthews. They could still turn it around I suppose, but I have doubts.

 

[DarkandStormy]

They probably saw what happened in Toronto after they fired Babcock, and were hoping firing Laviolette would have the same effect. The problem is Duchene isn't Tavares, and Johansen sure as hell isn't Matthews. They could still turn it around I suppose, but I have doubts.

Lavy has had a short shelf life at all of his stays. Usually a bump in the short term (first 1-3 years) followed by a quick drop by the team. Better for the Preds to cut bait now - while not totally out of playoff contention, if they think they can turn the season around - than for him to further torpedo the franchise and lose the room entirely (if that hadn't already happened).

 

[Viqsi]

Mike Milbury on NBC's hockey game said he though there were character issues with the Preds C's - Joey, Duchene & Turris. Didn't expound much on the comment but I thought he didn't consider them as 1C's but collectively 1aC's.

Uhhuh. Remember how media pundits assumed that this team was entirely the product of Panarin and Bobrovsky and as soon as they left we were guaranteed to be last overall? This is an assessment of comparable (lack of) quality.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Uhhuh. Remember how media pundits assumed that this team was entirely the product of Panarin and Bobrovsky and as soon as they left we were guaranteed to be last overall? This is an assessment of comparable (lack of) quality.

You would know better than I, I don't watch the Preds much, but I think there might be some merit to Johansen. Turris and Lavy had a falling out, so I don't really think its a character issue there, but I do think Johansen gives 50% effort at times. There is no reason why he shouldn't be at least a 20 goal scorer every year. He has a bomb of a shot and he scored 30 nearly two years in a row here. He's a stud, but only when he wants to be a stud.

I could be wrong, I don't watch the Preds, but statsheet watching screams Joey not giving his all consistently. He's a #1 C but his numbers don't say it. I still like the player a lot but its starting to turn into a common denominator thing.

 

[Viqsi]

You would know better than I, I don't watch the Preds much, but I think there might be some merit to Johansen. Turris and Lavy had a falling out, so I don't really think its a character issue there, but I do think Johansen gives 50% effort at times. There is no reason why he shouldn't be at least a 20 goal scorer every year. He has a bomb of a shot and he scored 30 nearly two years in a row here. He's a stud, but only when he wants to be a stud.

I could be wrong, I don't watch the Preds, but statsheet watching screams Joey not giving his all consistently. He's a #1 C but his numbers don't say it. I still like the player a lot but its starting to turn into a common denominator thing.

The short version is that most of the team is underachieving, particularly the goaltending; blaming it on the guys with narrative reputations is just lazy. It's the sort of "analysis" my impulsive preteen nephew could do.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

The short version is that most of the team is underachieving, particularly the goaltending; blaming it on the guys with narrative reputations is just lazy. It's the sort of "analysis" my impulsive preteen nephew could do.

Perhaps, but would you say the concerns to Johansen's production and effort at least has some merit?