Rumor: Andrei Markov's Agent Has Contacted Habs (Looking for $2M Contract)

Do you want Markov back?


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groovejuice

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Bergevin was too cheap with Radulov and I think that was a critical mistake. However, with Markov, the contract offer was right (Chara took the same type of deal with the Bruins). Problem is Bergevin might of gotten frustrated and said things he should not of and the tone of the negotiations might of gotten sour

That's a possible scenario, for sure. It's unfortunate that Bergevin's modus operandi is all over the map. Disrespect and underappreciate Markov, then turn around and open the vault for Alzner. That couldn't have turned out worse.
 

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We are still paying Alzner 4.6M to play in the AHL....and that's still okay apparently.

It's still OK until we need his cap space. Has his contract affected us from signing anybody? Doubt it. Habs need to focus on our team direction and giving top talent reasons why they would want to play for the Habs. If you build it, they will come
 

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That's a possible scenario, for sure. It's unfortunate that Bergevin's modus operandi is all over the map. Disrespect and underappreciate Markov, then turn around and open the vault for Alzner. That couldn't have turned out worse.

IMO, I think Bergevin's to do list in the 2017 off season was too much for him to handle. He was negotiating with Radulov from Dec of 16 all the way to June of 17 and he had a shit load of other things to do. Not making an excuse for him but I do think he was frustrated and made a few mistakes.
 

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It's still OK until we need his cap space. Has his contract affected us from signing anybody? Doubt it. Habs need to focus on our team direction and giving top talent reasons why they would want to play for the Habs. If you build it, they will come

It would've been dumb to give 12M for 3 years to Radulov back then…..but i would have been smarter than walking around with 8M of dead space and Alzner like Bergevin is doing.

Or would've been smarter to sign Markov 2 years at 8M than what happens to that money in the last 2 years.
Now, Alzner's deal prevented to sign Markov and Radulov. But hey, let's overpay for the defensive guy.
 

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IMO, I think Bergevin's to do list in the 2017 off season was too much for him to handle. He was negotiating with Radulov from Dec of 16 all the way to June of 17 and he had a **** load of other things to do. Not making an excuse for him but I do think he was frustrated and made a few mistakes.
He took a hardline stance with Markov and Radulov but opened the vault for Alzner and Drouin and that should tell you all you need to know about him. He is either a terrible judge of talent or he just hates Russians because who in their right mind would sign the two guys he did to such ridiculous amounts of money and let two superior players walk away?
 
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Team at this stage appears to be pretty much the same but why are some valuing the rise of other young teams but our youth doesn't get the same future growth hope? We have been hearing over and over again in recent seasons... "Sabres and other teams who have a young core are going to catch us". Habs have both vets and a young core so not sure why we hold our heads down so much

Wasn’t factoring youth in the equation but looking at major acquisitions only. We can’t really know which prospects will make the team until they prove themselves to be ready. It’s a more uncertain variable for now.
 

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Of course you use a fictional argument to disprove an opinion that has never been seen here, ever.

Markov's KHL team, AK Bars, did win the Gagarin Cup the season Markov joined them though.

Not sure what’s fictional about what I said. What is fictional is the belief that Markov would still be a useful player and would have made a real difference for the habs, despite how much i like him as a player. People just dislike bergevin and his handling of the situation too much to remain objective.

That's a possible scenario, for sure. It's unfortunate that Bergevin's modus operandi is all over the map. Disrespect and underappreciate Markov, then turn around and open the vault for Alzner. That couldn't have turned out worse.


Disrespecting Markov after what? The team gave him a very lucrative contract after serious injuries to the same knee. They treated him very well and he wanted a ton of money right to the end. These things go both ways.
 
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Our LD sucks, so let's sign a guy in his 40's who's completely finished to play 10 minutes a night, forcing our remaining 2 LD to pick up the other 50 minutes. Genius.

Markov is beyond done. Let. It. Go.
 
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groovejuice

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IMO, I think Bergevin's to do list in the 2017 off season was too much for him to handle. He was negotiating with Radulov from Dec of 16 all the way to June of 17 and he had a **** load of other things to do. Not making an excuse for him but I do think he was frustrated and made a few mistakes.

I think you're very generous. Re-signing Radulov was a no brainer, especially when Bergevin first tried to sign Lucic and Perron. He lucked out that those players wouldn't sign, and then threw his good fortune away with his incomprehensible treatment of a player he supposedly was eager to sign.
 

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Who doesn't love Markov??

I just don't see who he bumps off.

Chiarot
Mete
Kulak
Reilly

He's got to be better than two of them just to get bottom pairing minutes. The ship has sailed on doing right by Markov imo, but we can still show some class by hiring him as a developmental coach, and we all know he has the knowledge of the game to be of use there.

If Mete had 1% of his deception...
 
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CristianoRonaldo

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If our youth don't improve, we will be stuck in the middle of the pack. That I agree with. But if our youth matures and keeps developing well, I think there is an outside chance we can be a top 10 cup contender type team moving forward. Our superstar is still our goalie and we lack that 100 pts guy up front but it's just too dam hard to say how good our age 25 and under core really is.

The only guy I am worried about on a window closing is Weber. We likely have 2 more good years and then it's anybodies guess how good he is at 36 and 37. Not worried about Price for another 5/6 seasons.

Almost every team we are competing against will get improvement from their youth, Tampa, Boston, Florida, Toronto, Carolina, NY, Philly, NJ.
 
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groovejuice

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Not sure what’s fictional about what I said. What is fictional is the belief that Markov would still be a useful player and would have made a real difference for the habs, despite how much i like him as a player. People just dislike bergevin and his handling of the situation too much to remain objective.


Disrespecting Markov after what? The team gave him a very lucrative contract after serious injuries to the same knee. They treated him very well and he wanted a ton of money right to the end. These things go both ways.

What was fictional is your suggestion that people wanted Markov signed for the "sure Cup", or however you phrased it.

Bergevin did not respect Markov at all. Do you not recall "first come, first served"? Markov himself, who virtually never comments in the media said that he felt disrespected.

Don't forget that Markov took 3 consecutive contracts at (from memory) $5.75M. At least one of those was a team discount.

Any argument of support that someone makes for how Bergevin dealt with Markov is automatically cancelled by his worse than awful signing of Alzner, who wasn't fit to lick Markov's skates.
 

lou4gehrig

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Sign Cousins "It's only 1 year, you can burry him in the AHL"
Sign Peca "It's only 2 years and 1.3M, you can send him to the AHL"
Sign Rielly "It's only two years at 1.5M"
Sign Thompson "It's only one year yada yada AHL"

But the narrative change when we talk about Markov, a Habs legend.

"Markov ? He's done, too much money, too old, can't keep up with the NHL..."

This is an NHL franchise, not a charity. We could just as well sign the legendary Markov as a scout or a front office person and pay him $100k instead of $2M. The Habs have more legends than almost all the other teams combined. Do we have to give those players $2M for them to turn back up in Montreal? He's 40, not 35.

True legends would come back for free, not ask for $2M when you're completely washed up. If you truly love the sweater you're not looking at your wallet at the same time. Nice try Markov.
 

Tiger Svoboda

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I would like to sign Markov to a 1m + bonus contract. Put him on the pp to feed Weber. He cannot be worse than Reilly. If it doesn’t work, no big deal just retire him or send him down.
Not resigning Markov 2 years aga has been bergevin’s biggest mistake
 

groovejuice

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This is an NHL franchise, not a charity. We could just as well sign the legendary Markov as a scout or a front office person and pay him $100k instead of $2M. The Habs have more legends than almost all the other teams combined. Do we have to give those players $2M for them to turn back up in Montreal? He's 40, not 35.

True legends would come back for free, not ask for $2M when you're completely washed up. If you truly love the sweater you're not looking at your wallet at the same time. Nice try Markov.

I know it wasn't intentional, but this is one of the most amusing posts I've read in ages.

Players who really love their teams should play for free. You know who had the very same attitude? Those franchise owners who blocked the creation of a players' union, while paying pennies to their players.

We can only assume that you're independently wealthy with an unhealthy attitude towards workers judging by that bizarre post of yours.
 

CristianoRonaldo

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This is an NHL franchise, not a charity. We could just as well sign the legendary Markov as a scout or a front office person and pay him $100k instead of $2M. The Habs have more legends than almost all the other teams combined. Do we have to give those players $2M for them to turn back up in Montreal? He's 40, not 35.

True legends would come back for free, not ask for $2M when you're completely washed up. If you truly love the sweater you're not looking at your wallet at the same time. Nice try Markov.


Who are those legends who are 10 games shy from 1000 with us and we can sign, because they are still active ?

Legends would come back for free :laugh: ? Yeah, let me guess, they also played for free back then too ?
 

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Markov would be great as PP specialist, like Gonchar that year. I have no clue about the cap though and if 2M is too much, it depens. You sign him for a year, he plays his 10 games; then you trade his rights at the deadline to a team plagued by an injury.
 

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Who are those legends who are 10 games shy from 1000 with us and we can sign, because they are still active ?

Legends would come back for free :laugh: ? Yeah, let me guess, they also played for free back then too ?

He is done..........this discussion should be done as well.
 

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Serious, serious pass.

Serious is serious.
Pass is pass.
Serious pass is f*** it.
Serious, serious pass is holy f*** it.
 
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