Confirmed Trade: [ANA/PIT] Marcus Pettersson for Daniel Sprong

[Empoleon8771]

Yeah, Pettersson has been downright incredible for the Penguins. He was just really solid at the beginning, but he has also started to be aggressive offensively recently, which has elevated him to incredible. He is definitely the 3rd best defenseman for the Penguins right now.

I thought Pettersson higher than Pettersson than most Penguins fans at the time of the trade, but he has even exceeded my expectations. His performance so far this year has been on par or better than Maatta in 2013-2014 (remember the hype around him?) and Dumoulin in 2015-2016.

 

[CraigsList]

Yeah, Pettersson has been downright incredible for the Penguins. He was just really solid at the beginning, but he has also started to be aggressive offensively recently, which has elevated him to incredible. He is definitely the 3rd best defenseman for the Penguins right now.

I thought Pettersson higher than Pettersson than most Penguins fans at the time of the trade, but he has even exceeded my expectations. His performance so far this year has been on par or better than Maatta in 2013-2014 (remember the hype around him?) and Dumoulin in 2015-2016.

Doesn’t seem like an exaggeration either, the Pens are on fire

 

[SEALBound]

I think it was a good trade for both sides. Two winners trade.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Yeah, Pettersson has been downright incredible for the Penguins. He was just really solid at the beginning, but he has also started to be aggressive offensively recently, which has elevated him to incredible. He is definitely the 3rd best defenseman for the Penguins right now.

I thought Pettersson higher than Pettersson than most Penguins fans at the time of the trade, but he has even exceeded my expectations. His performance so far this year has been on par or better than Maatta in 2013-2014 (remember the hype around him?) and Dumoulin in 2015-2016.

Eh I think hes a solid pick up, he wasn't going to get much opportunity in Anaheim with Lindholm fowler ahead of him and Larsson/mahura projected to be better than him.

Glad hes worked out so far tho .

 

[Anaheim4ever]

A top 4D on one team is a bottom pairing on other teams. No matter what Pettersen was always gonna be the 6th guy when Fowler is back. Our top 4 guys when healthy log 20+ minutes each per game.
Without the trade & everyone healthy:
Lindholm/Montour
Fowler/Manson
Larsson/Petterssen

After the trade & due to injuries they are playing with:
Lindholm/Montour
Larsson/Manson
Mahura/Dotchin/Wellinski
For us Sprong is about at nearly half a point per game player at 0.46, if only our Coach would use him on the PP consistently.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Eh I think hes a solid pick up, he wasn't going to get much opportunity in Anaheim with Lindholm fowler ahead of him and Larsson/mahura projected to be better than him.

Glad hes worked out so far tho .

Yeah I don't blame Anaheim for trading him, my comment was that Pettersson has just been incredible for the Penguins. He's been super good here.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Pettersson was phenomenal last night against Winnipeg. He was aggressive and making plays.

Happy to see this is working out for both teams and players.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Aren't both players also effected by the systems they play in ? Any system is better than Carlyle's system (worst coach in the NHL). The team feels like 10 miles slower with Carlyle than Boudreau.

Every team in the West knows the Ducks lack Snipers so they are caught off guard with Sprong, he brings something different to the table & the way the rest of the team plays it allows Sprong to be in position to use his strengths.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Aren't both players also effected by the systems they play in ? Any system is better than Carlyle's system (worst coach in the NHL). The team feels like 10 miles slower with Carlyle than Boudreau.

Every team in the West knows the Ducks lack Snipers so they are caught off guard with Sprong, he brings something different to the table & the way the rest of the team plays it allows Sprong to be in position to use his strengths.

Sprong's problem in Pittsburgh wasn't the system, it was the usage.

Some people thought he should be producing while getting buried in his own end for 8:30 a night on the 4th line. The only prospects who have done that are mythical ones. Now that he's seeing decent time with players who can get him the puck he's sniping left and right, which should surprise nobody who understands how deployment can affect numbers.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Sprong's problem in Pittsburgh wasn't the system, it was the usage.

Some people thought he should be producing while getting buried in his own end for 8:30 a night on the 4th line. The only prospects who have done that are mythical ones. Now that he's seeing decent time with players who can get him the puck he's sniping left and right, which should surprise nobody who understands how deployment can affect numbers.

Helps his confidence too that his Captain is balder than him lol, Getzlaf & his lil bro Sprong.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Helps his confidence too that his Captain is balder than him lol, Getzlaf & his lil bro Sprong.

Lowers wind resistance.

 

[Trojans86]

Sprong feels like a 3rd liner and pp specialist but with the potential to be a top line winger. Good speed, good puck control and elite shot. I doubt he ever becomes a top line winger but with those raw tools the potential is there.

 

[PAZ]

I feel like Anaheim and Nashville produces half the league's defenseman. It's incredible how much defensive talent is pumped out of those two clubs.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I feel like Anaheim and Nashville produces half the league's defenseman. It's incredible how much defensive talent is pumped out of those two clubs.

Weber/Suter/Josi/Jones/Ekholm/Ellis/Spalling/Klein/Franson/Hamhuis/Blum/Girard
Lindholm/Fowler/Vatanen/Montour/Manson/Schultz/Gardiner/Theodore/Petterssen/Larsson/Mahura

Edit: forgot Vatanen & Gardiner.

 

[MMC]

Weber/Suter/Josi/Jones/Ekholm/Ellis/Spalling/Klein/Franson/Hamhuis/Blum
Lindholm/Fowler/Montour/Manson/Schultz/Theodore/Petterssen/Larsson/Mahura

Gardiner too for Anaheim.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Gardiner too for Anaheim.

& i forgot Vatanen too.

 

[Fatty McLardy]

Glad Sprong is working out for you Ducks fans, Pettersson is so much better than i thought he would be. Guy has legit chance to be a top 4 d-man. Hell he already has been playing like a top 4 on most nights. He breaks up so many plays and has really good gap control because of his insanely long stick.
Pens defense is one of the top 3-5, i believe since he joined the team. Someone can back me up with some stats.

 

[Riptide]

Sprong's problem in Pittsburgh wasn't the system, it was the usage.

Some people thought he should be producing while getting buried in his own end for 8:30 a night on the 4th line. The only prospects who have done that are mythical ones. Now that he's seeing decent time with players who can get him the puck he's sniping left and right, which should surprise nobody who understands how deployment can affect numbers.

Guess it must really bug the hell out of you that his "deployment" hasn't actually affected his numbers.

So what's Sprong's excuse now that he's getting 80% zone starts with Anaheim's 2c? His underlying numbers are the exact same as what they were in Pittsburgh - complete trash. And this isn't an exaggeration, his advanced stat line is practically identical. Anaheim is getting out shot, out scored and out chanced when he's on the ice, and just like in Pittsburgh, Anahiem's players are doing better away from Sprong then they're doing with him.

But sure... it was all "usage".

 

[smitty10]

Gardiner too for Anaheim.

Gardiner was drafted by Anaheim, but never played a game for the organization at any level or attended a camp.

With that being said, they have a very impressive track record none the less.

 

[robes1]

Guess it must really bug the hell out of you that his "deployment" hasn't actually affected his numbers.

So what's Sprong's excuse now that he's getting 80% zone starts with Anaheim's 2c? His underlying numbers are the exact same as what they were in Pittsburgh - complete trash. And this isn't an exaggeration, his advanced stat line is practically identical. Anaheim is getting out shot, out scored and out chanced when he's on the ice, and just like in Pittsburgh, Anahiem's players are doing better away from Sprong then they're doing with him.

But sure... it was all "usage".

Uh, he has 5 goals in 13 games with Anaheim. If he kept up that pace for 82 games, it would be 30+ goals a year.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Guess it must really bug the hell out of you that his "deployment" hasn't actually affected his numbers.

So what's Sprong's excuse now that he's getting 80% zone starts with Anaheim's 2c? His underlying numbers are the exact same as what they were in Pittsburgh - complete trash. And this isn't an exaggeration, his advanced stat line is practically identical. Anaheim is getting out shot, out scored and out chanced when he's on the ice, and just like in Pittsburgh, Anahiem's players are doing better away from Sprong then they're doing with him.

But sure... it was all "usage".

Our whole team is getting out shot, it doesn't matter who we have on the ice while Carlyle is still our coach. Nothing they've done has stopped them from being out shot.

The last time they had a stretch of getting out shot as a team in back to back seasons was in 2010-11 & 2011-12 with Hiller facing 40+ shots a game & guess who was their coach then ? Carlyle & he got fired in 2011-12 season & replaced by Boudreau who turned them around in 2012-13. Now in year 2 & 3 of Carlyle being back they are terribly getting out shot again.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Guess it must really bug the hell out of you that his "deployment" hasn't actually affected his numbers.

So what's Sprong's excuse now that he's getting 80% zone starts with Anaheim's 2c? His underlying numbers are the exact same as what they were in Pittsburgh - complete trash. And this isn't an exaggeration, his advanced stat line is practically identical. Anaheim is getting out shot, out scored and out chanced when he's on the ice, and just like in Pittsburgh, Anahiem's players are doing better away from Sprong then they're doing with him.

But sure... it was all "usage".

Sprong's numbers don't require any excuse.

He's a sniper prospect who has 5 goals and 1 assist in 13 games, producing at the sort of pace I figured he would when used properly - you can check the tape. I don't remember making any proclamations about Sprong becoming a good possession player when he went to a new team, especially with 2 teammates in Henrique and Ritchie who are no possession monsters themselves.

Kessel's possession numbers are almost always garbage despite great deployment and better linemates. But you know, he produces. That's a rare and valuable contribution in and of itself.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Uh, he has 5 goals in 13 games with Anaheim. If he kept up that pace for 82 games, it would be 30+ goals a year.

But he's bad because Corssiiiiiiiiii. If you score more goals than the other team but end up with worse Corsi, have you really won the game?

 

[Elimanator]

Weber/Suter/Josi/Jones/Ekholm/Ellis/Spalling/Klein/Franson/Hamhuis/Blum
Lindholm/Fowler/Vatanen/Montour/Manson/Schultz/Gardiner/Theodore/Petterssen/Larsson/Mahura

Edit: forgot Vatanen & Gardiner.

Add Sam Girard to Nashville's list.

 

[3074326]

But he's bad because Corssiiiiiiiiii. If you score more goals than the other team but end up with worse Corsi, have you really won the game?

Is there a stat for looking bad? Because Sprong would be the leader of that stat when he was in Pittsburgh. The Pens have been on fire since the trade and I don't think it's a coincidence.