Waived: Alzner, Weise, Peca, Varone & Ouellet - All clear waivers and assigned to Laval

[Saxon]

well boys and gals, WE GOT CAP SPACE..lol like over $12 MILLION NOW????? holy ...


Weise 2.3 m..Ahl
Alzner 4.6 m..Ahl
Peca 1.3 m..Ahl
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8. 2 million.....+ 4.4million we had free with those guys on the NHL roster......something best be shakin'

At this rate we'll have to make a move to reach the cap floor.......

 

[Captain Mountain]

NO EXCUSES......that sign should still be up right now at Bell Centre

If you build a LEGIT winner/cup contender ... player sWILL COME....

You wanna ice a pretender? yup,they will past you by

Not trying to excuse Bergevin, but what was the last contender built through spending to the cap? You have draft the guys first and wait for them to develop. It took Bergevin years to figure that out, but at least he's doing that. And the idea is that when they come, they wont be bogged down by garbage contracts.

 

[Runner77]

can we get a sign outside the owners office?

Stop being cheap
Try and win a cup
Be a PRO

 

[A55P2]

I don't see, and I hope, none of them are picked up (except for Alzner, but we can already forget about it...). Peca is gonna be really good in the AHL!

 

[ArtPeur]

This is an odd thread. It is unanimous that these guys don't make the team yet about 90% of the posts are negative.

90% of posts on HFHabs are negative

 

[Habaneros]

90% of posts on HFHabs are negative

Win a cup or get to round 3 ...see the mood change...

There is legit reason as to why negativity rules this board more than positive..lol

 

[Runner77]

Yeah but, ask fans about the Laval Rocket this year. Gonna be one fun team to watch.

 

[Habaneros]

Yeah but, ask fans about the Laval Rocket this year. Gonna be one fun team to watch.

Quebec now has 2 NHL teams or Quebec still has 2 AHL TEAMS???

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I again repeat that I do not think Alzner will do that. I expect he will report to Laval and be a good soldier.

I didn't think you were suggesting otherwise. Just pointing out that as much as he might be disappointed in his career, he really did hit the jackpot. It may not feel that way for him right now but he'll appreciate it someday.

 

[26Mats]

Better than spending on bad contracts.

I agree with you. But I think there were good options to use the cap space this summer.

 

[The Real Timo]

Oh noez! Not Karl Alzner! I predicted he will be #2 behind Weber. What happened?

 

[Ozmodiar]

There are plenty of examples of overpaid veteran D that are pretty washed getting bought out and taking cheap contracts with other teams. The premise is similar enough.

The promise is based on Alzner intentionally walking away from money, a lot of it, to play somewhere else. It's nothing at all like washed up D being bought out, considering they have no say in the matter.

 

[Ozmodiar]

90% of posts on HFHabs are negative

If a post on HFHabs has 2 negative comments, which category would it fall into? a positive or a negative post?

 

[Runner77]

Oh noez! Not Karl Alzner! I predicted he will be #2 behind Weber. What happened?

He's the number 2 guy at the Laval McDonald's closest to the Baby Bell.

 

[Runner77]

Waivers for Alzner? There must have been a mistake ...

 

[the]

Mistake free hockey they said...

 

[HuGo Sham]

fare thee well

 

[ottawa]

That's 3 NHLers that we just waived. I feel like the habs will surprise this year, we are deep.

 

[CauZuki]

Not trying to excuse Bergevin, but what was the last contender built through spending to the cap? You have draft the guys first and wait for them to develop. It took Bergevin years to figure that out, but at least he's doing that. And the idea is that when they come, they wont be bogged down by garbage contracts.

Price at 10.5M a year until he is 38.
Weber at 9M a year until he is 41.
Alzner signed for another 3 years at 5M.

Yeah our contract situation is awesome!

 

[AcadiaAxeMan]

Yéé. Let's build a toxic environment in Laval, full of frustrated millionaires. Perfect for surrounding the kids.

What’s he to do with them? Play them in Montreal to save the kids in Laval? Best players should play

 

[ZUKI]

Price at 10.5M a year until he is 38.
Weber at 9M a year until he is 41.
Alzner signed for another 3 years at 5M.

Yeah our contract situation is awesome!

Weber at 7 857 143 $ not 9m$
Last 4 seasons his salaries will be 3 M$ , 1 M$ , 1 m$ , 1 m$
so 2 possibilities ; He stops to play 3-4 seasons before the end of his contract and than it will cost a fortune to the Preds , or Habs can buy him out
Alzner will be buy out next season

 

[THE HOFF]

That's 3 NHLers that we just waived. I feel like the habs will surprise this year, we are deep.

You're right, we still have 9 forwards onboard that could fit nicely into a bottom 6 !

 

[Treb]

Weber at 7 857 143 $ not 9m$
Last 4 seasons his salaries will be 3 M$ , 1 M$ , 1 m$ , 1 m$
so 2 possibilities ; He stops to play 3-4 seasons before the end of his contract and than it will cost a fortune to the Preds , or Habs can buy him out
Alzner will be buy out next season

Weber buy out for 4 years:
Cap Hit Calculations

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( MTL)
2022-23	$3,000,000	$7,857,143	$0	$500,000	$500,000	$2,500,000	$5,357,143
2023-24	$1,000,000	$7,857,143	$0	$500,000	$500,000	$500,000	$7,357,143
2024-25	$1,000,000	$7,857,143	$0	$500,000	$500,000	$500,000	$7,357,143
2025-26	$1,000,000	$7,857,143	$0	$500,000	$500,000	$500,000	$7,357,143
2026-27	$0	$0	$0	$500,000	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000
2027-28	$0	$0	$0	$500,000	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000
2028-29	$0	$0	$0	$500,000	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000
2029-30	$0	$0	$0	$500,000	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

We get almost no relief by buying him out.

Alzner buyout in 2020
Cap Hit Calculations

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( MTL)
2020-21	$1,500,000	$4,625,000	$1,500,000	$833,333	$2,333,333	$666,667	$3,958,333
2021-22	$3,500,000	$4,625,000	$0	$833,333	$833,333	$2,666,667	$1,958,333
2022-23	$0	$0	$0	$833,333	$833,333	-$833,333	$833,333
2023-24	$0	$0	$0	$833,333	$833,333	-$833,333	$833,333

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Almost no saving again in year 1 of buyout. Would be better to ship him at 50% retention to Ottawa for a conditionnal 7th so they can reach the cap floor.

 

[26Mats]

Weber buy out for 4 years:
Cap Hit Calculations

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( MTL)
2022-23	$3,000,000	$7,857,143	$0	$500,000	$500,000	$2,500,000	$5,357,143
2023-24	$1,000,000	$7,857,143	$0	$500,000	$500,000	$500,000	$7,357,143
2024-25	$1,000,000	$7,857,143	$0	$500,000	$500,000	$500,000	$7,357,143
2025-26	$1,000,000	$7,857,143	$0	$500,000	$500,000	$500,000	$7,357,143
2026-27	$0	$0	$0	$500,000	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000
2027-28	$0	$0	$0	$500,000	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000
2028-29	$0	$0	$0	$500,000	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000
2029-30	$0	$0	$0	$500,000	$500,000	-$500,000	$500,000

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

We get almost no relief by buying him out.

Alzner buyout in 2020
Cap Hit Calculations

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( MTL)
2020-21	$1,500,000	$4,625,000	$1,500,000	$833,333	$2,333,333	$666,667	$3,958,333
2021-22	$3,500,000	$4,625,000	$0	$833,333	$833,333	$2,666,667	$1,958,333
2022-23	$0	$0	$0	$833,333	$833,333	-$833,333	$833,333
2023-24	$0	$0	$0	$833,333	$833,333	-$833,333	$833,333

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Almost no saving again in year 1 of buyout. Would be better to ship him at 50% retention to Ottawa for a conditionnal 7th so they can reach the cap floor.

And note we save 1 million in cap space savings just by sending him to the AHL for the last 2 years.

If you subtract that from the "savings" column, we actually we lose cap space by buying him out over the 4 years. We only save 1.66 million in year 2, but have less cap space in the other 3 years.

 

[Schwang]

Price at 10.5M a year until he is 38.
Weber at 9M a year until he is 41.
Alzner signed for another 3 years at 5M.

Yeah our contract situation is awesome!

Gee. No other teams have guys signed to big contracts! You guys make it sound like the Habs are the only team in the league that have made questionable decisions.