Total nonsense. Senators would not give up Turris, Brown and a first for Duchene.To OTT-Duchene
To NSH-Turris
To COL- Samuel Girard + Logan Brown + OTT 1st or 2nd
If they did, Dorion should be fired immediately by Eugene.
Total nonsense. Senators would not give up Turris, Brown and a first for Duchene.To OTT-Duchene
To NSH-Turris
To COL- Samuel Girard + Logan Brown + OTT 1st or 2nd
It's semantics now, but I believe there's a difference in trading guys on the IR vs. LTIR. Savard, Pronger, Horton are all contract unloads of guys that were never playing in the league again. Haven't consulted the CBA but I'm 90% sure you can't trade anyone on the IR.I understand Ellis doesn't make sense for COL, but you are incorrect about not being able to trade injured players. Happens quite a bit (see Nathan Horton and Marc Savard)
It's semantics now, but I believe there's a difference in trading guys on the IR vs. LTIR. Savard, Pronger, Horton are all contract unloads of guys that were never playing in the league again. Haven't consulted the CBA but I'm 90% sure you can't trade anyone on the IR.
I'll take your word for it. Learn something new every day #themoreyouknowPlayers on LTIR are also on IR. IR clears the roster spot, LTIR helps with the cap. You can trade anyone as long as the acquiring teams knows the injury background and looks at the medicals.
Evander Kane was traded while injured.
They're already the third worst goals/game team in the league. Only the two Alberta teams are worse.So what you are saying is that sens fans & Avs fans should start hoping that the Preds get shut out a few times?
My guess is COL had a chance at NSH 1st+OTT 1st+both teams 2nd (probably future).. or prospects liks Girard, Harpur, Paul, Englund etc.. (with picks).
Hard to believe they passed IMO if that is the case... but 4 high picks is hard to pass on regardless
The Ottawa Senators had a deadline... that's cute.
Deal is like this
NSH-Turris
OTT-Duchene
Avs-picks and prospects (I assume high picks like 2 1sts maybe 1st pick Nsh, 1st pick OTT, and prospects from both clubs)
Insanity.Ott: Duchene
Nsh: Turris
Col: Chabot, Fiala, Nsh 2018 first
Insanity.
True, but the future is uncertain, and we have no idea what they're going to do until it actually happens. Maybe Ceci wants NTC or NMC, it sounds ridiculous no doubt, but possible. Likewise with the chances of Stone and Karlsson to name a few.
Duchene isn't a superstar, but Chabot is a unknown piece who has good development years. You won't believe the amount of defenders who shined in their rookie years just to become solid #3's in their career. Avs trade for the higher risk since we're gambling on nothing, but unknown potential. Not only that, but Duchene is a #1 centre (though on the lower tier I will admit) and would be the best player on the team after Karlsson. You're still going to say that a player who would be your best offencive forward isn't worth an "unknown" Chabot?
No team in the league worse for leaking trades and players involved then Ottawa.
Send Yak with Duchene to Ottawa, send Ryan to Colorado, then have Colorado retain on Ryan when sending him to Nashville. Then wake up from the pleasant dream you were having.
The deal was:
Ottawa receives Matt Duchene with 1.5m retained, 2018 NSH 2nd
Ottawa gives up Kyle Turris, 2018 1st, 2019 2nd, Ben Harpur
Nashville receives Kyle Turris(Signed 7yr/6m)
Nashville gives up 2018 1st, 2018 2nd, 2019 2nd
COL receives 2018 NSH 1st, 2018 OTT 1st, 2019 OTT 2nd, 2019 NSH 2nd, Ben Harpur
COL gives up Matt Duchene retained 1.5m
No questions asked.
Look at the time of each. Just saying.
The reasons are simple.As a Sens fan this move makes no logical sense... the discrepancy between Turris and Duchene is minimal. Both similar type players. So we're gonna trade Turris plus High picks for Duchene whose got only 1.5 yrs left on his contract.
If were currently having trouble signing Turris .... Duchene is gonna want similar term and probably more dollars.
Why give up the assets of your Sens management? Seems like we're just kicking the problem down the road....this doesn't solve anything.
No added value from this trade; only lost value on overpayment for marginally better player.
As a Sens fan this move makes no logical sense... the discrepancy between Turris and Duchene is minimal. Both similar type players. So we're gonna trade Turris plus High picks for Duchene whose got only 1.5 yrs left on his contract.
If were currently having trouble signing Turris .... Duchene is gonna want similar term and probably more dollars.
Why give up the assets of your Sens management? Seems like we're just kicking the problem down the road....this doesn't solve anything.
No added value from this trade; only lost value on overpayment for marginally better player.
Meh ...Give Turris 7 years at 6 mil ...I know its not ideal.But EM has to understand its not only being a cap team that makes you a contender,he has to be willing to swallow a buyout from time to time as well .Us trading a guy like Chabot to slide the exact same issue forward 1.5 years is just nutsThe reasons are simple.
A)We dont want Turris for 8 years with Brown and White coming up.
B)Duchene is 2 years younger and fits our core group age better.
C)He's good trade bait IF, longshot, Tavares wants out of NYI.
Meh ...Give Turris 7 years at 6 mil ...I know its not ideal.But EM has to understand its not only being a cap team that makes you a contender,he has to be willing to swallow a buyout from time to time as well .Us trading a guy like Chabot to slide the exact same issue forward 1.5 years is just nuts