WJC: 2021 Russia Roster Talk

[Atas2000]

Personal income has increased incrementally but steadily since about 2004, when Russia was finally emerging from the deep economic depression of the 1990's (substantially worse than US depression in the 1930's), but personal income overall is very low in comparison to really wealthy countries like the US, Canada, Sweden, etc.. This is especially true outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg, and a few energy-rich regions in the Urals and Siberia. Many cities lack the income to make needed structural improvements, much less build recreational facilittes.

This is not true. Just shows it is not easy to understand what's going on from the outside. You are like 10-15 years in the past with that perception. Let alone understanding how economy and funding works in Russia.

 

[Rayquaza64]

Is there a list of people invited to the Russia camp avaliable yet?

 

[Flynn84]

Is there a list of people invited to the Russia camp avaliable yet?

Askarov
Skotnikov
Akhtyamov

Chistyakov
Mukhamadulin
Chayka
Kirsanov
Kuznetsov
Bychkov
Rogov
Sedov
Kirpichnikov
Shekhovtsov

Podkolzin
Chinakhov
Amirov
Afanasiev
Abramov
Groshev
Khusnutdinov
Gritsyuk
Spiridonov
Firstov
Safonov
Ponomaryov
Bashkirov
Bardakov
Mingachyov

 

[Flynn84]

No Nikishin, no Knyazev.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Need to cut 3

 

[Caser]

No Nikishin, no Knyazev.

Nikishin's issue is with IIHF, would've liked to see Knyazev though.

 

[Flynn84]

Nikishin's issue is with IIHF, would've liked to see Knyazev though.

He had only 3 games this season. Just returned after an injury. Had a VHL game with 8:44 of icetime.

 

[Flynn84]

Gritsyuk - Abramov - Amirov
Afanasiev - Khusnutdinov - Podkolzin
Groshev - Safonov - Chinakhov
Spiridonov - Bashkirov - Firstov

Mingachyov
Ponomaryov
Bardakov

 

[TheDoldrums]

Are there really only 4 players on the 28 man roster with a last name that doesn't end in 'v?'

I knew it was common but my goodness.

 

[Deezone]

Gritsyuk - Abramov - Amirov
Afanasiev - Khusnutdinov - Podkolzin
Groshev - Safonov - Chinakhov
Spiridonov - Bashkirov - Firstov

Mingachyov
Ponomaryov
Bardakov

The Russian's have a "murderers row" of Right Wingers.... Podkolzin, Amirov, Chinakhov

 

[Atas2000]

The Russian's have a "murderers row" of Right Wingers.... Podkolzin, Amirov, Chinakhov

This is the only position we are strong in. You have to be really good to make the russain NT on RW at any level.

 

[Atas2000]

Are there really only 4 players on the 28 man roster with a last name that doesn't end in 'v?'

I knew it was common but my goodness.

It's not common, it's how names are formed in Russian. It is a language thing, not a question of statistical dispersion. Basically there is also the -in for russian names, so if you exclude -ov, -ev and -in, there are only two names that do not fit in. That obviously includes the turkic names that got the russian -in or -ov endings (Askarov, Amirom, Mikhamadullin, Mingachyov).

 

[hot donut]

It's not common, it's how names are formed in Russian. It is a language thing, not a question of statistical dispersion. Basically there is also the -in for russian names, so if you exclude -ov, -ev and -in, there are only two names that do not fit in. That obviously includes the turkic names that got the russian -in or -ov endings (Askarov, Amirom, Mikhamadullin, Mingachyov).

To add to this, the name Gritsyuk is of Ukrainian origin and comes from the first name Grigory. Chayka means "seagull" in Russian.

 

[Rayquaza64]

no trineyev

sad!

 

[thestonedkoala]

The Russian's have a "murderers row" of Right Wingers.... Podkolzin, Amirov, Chinakhov

Don't discount Firstov. He had a pretty solid year last year.

 

[wings5]

Don't discount Firstov. He had a pretty solid year last year.

You only hope the UConn practices have him in good enough game shape compared to those Russians in Russia playing games since August though.

 

[themelkman]

No idea why they wouldnt go with Kniazev. Spirdonov is good, but not flashy or exciting and likely to play small minutes

 

[Pandaman11]

Don't discount Firstov. He had a pretty solid year last year.

Isn't he LW?

 

[Pandaman11]

The 2001-born defensemen must be a really weak generation. 6 of 10 dmen are 2021 NHL draft eligible, which is unusual for Russia that usually likes its 19-year olds. Only 2 of 10 are from the 2019 draft.

 

[Statsy]

The 2001-born defensemen must be a really weak generation. 6 of 10 dmen are 2021 NHL draft eligible, which is unusual for Russia that usually likes its 19-year olds. Only 2 of 10 are from the 2019 draft.

Keep in mind that it was particularly Bragin that liked to go heavy on the 19 year olds. He has since moved on and Larionov is running the show this year. It’s going to be a completely different approach from what we’ve seen the past decade. Should be interesting!

 

[Atas2000]

Keep in mind that it was particularly Bragin that liked to go heavy on the 19 year olds. He has since moved on and Larionov is running the show this year. It’s going to be a completely different approach from what we’ve seen the past decade. Should be interesting!

It has nothing to do with Bragin or Larionov in this case.

 

[Atas2000]

The 2001-born defensemen must be a really weak generation. 6 of 10 dmen are 2021 NHL draft eligible, which is unusual for Russia that usually likes its 19-year olds. Only 2 of 10 are from the 2019 draft.

Knyyazev did not get adequate game practice and then got injured and is bare back from injury and thus not invited to camp. Nikishin is not cleared by the IIHF because of his heart condition that does not prevent him from playing extremely well in the KHL. That's two no brainers who had to make room for those younger defencemen in an otherwise really weak class.

 

[Atas2000]

No idea why they wouldnt go with Kniazev. Spirdonov is good, but not flashy or exciting and likely to play small minutes

Because he was injured and before that got no game practice.

 

[Atas2000]

no trineyev

sad!

18 and less impressive numbers in the MHL than 15 year old Michkov. Not surprising.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Gritsyuk - Abramov - Amirov
Afanasiev - Khusnutdinov - Podkolzin
Groshev - Safonov - Chinakhov
Spiridonov - Bashkirov - Firstov

Mingachyov
Ponomaryov
Bardakov

Gritsyuk needs to be on the third line.

I can hear the future NHL announcers now: “a Gritsyukian check...”