2021 Roster Thread XV - Where everyone is in agreement about what is needed

[The Madrigal]

Who? I cannot honestly recall anyone banging a drum hard for Duchene.

If you have a bad memory that's on you. Pretty much everyone was either claiming they should just go with Patrick or Frost at 2C and 3C, or to sign Duchene. Either of which direction would have turned out significantly worse than signing Hayes.

 

[Henry Miller]

Wrong thread

 

[Striiker]

Who? I cannot honestly recall anyone banging a drum hard for Duchene.

 

[Magua]

The only facts and context I need in this discussion come from @Striiker .

See?

 

[Rebels57]

Totally. Now go make your pick.

 

[mja]

If you have a bad memory that's on you. Pretty much everyone was either claiming they should just go with Patrick or Frost at 2C and 3C, or to sign Duchene. Either of which direction would have turned out significantly worse than signing Hayes.

Go find the posts then. Should be easy to do, given the apparent large number of people that were clamoring for him.

 

[mja]

I’m legit dead,

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

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That's what I'm here for - I'm your last, best line of defense against boredom

 

[deadhead]

I love people pretending Hayes was the only option and that the only option was to give him a bad contract.

There's always other options. And even if there somehow wasn't, it's better to do absolutely nothing than screw the team over and cause future problems, which is exactly what's happening right now thanks to that NMC and cap hit.

This is really simple shit.

In other words, I know there were no other options, I would have bitched like crazy had they not made the move and missed the playoffs, now I reserve my right to bitch like crazy b/c they made the move.

Hayes wasn't my first choice, but it was the market rate, and it was signed before COVID and the flat cap, can't blame Fletcher for that.
He's pretty much as advertised, I expect a better season from a healthy Hayes, because they know who works with him and who doesn't.

JVR/Laughton/Farabee - Hayes - Allison/Farabee
that leaves
Lindblom/Laughton - Frost - Patrick/Allison as your 3rd line
Cates/Laughton - Laczynski - NAK/Patrick as your 4th line

Even if you lose/trade Voracek, that's 11 forwards for 9 spots.

PK:
Laughton - Couts
Farabee - Hayes
Lindblom - NAK

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

If there's one thing the Circle Jerks TM have proven, it's that they are illiterate as f***.

 

[Magua]

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I @‘d you! Don’t pin this on me, bub!

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I @‘d you! Don’t pin this on me, bub!

You have to PM too, but it's fine.

 

[Magua]

You have to PM too, but it's fine.

But he liked my post @ing him 2 hours ago.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

But he liked my post @ing him 2 hours ago.

I understand, and nothing is f***ed, dude, nothing is f***ed - I was just pointing it out.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Who? I cannot honestly recall anyone banging a drum hard for Duchene.

I remember a lot of people banging drums in opposition

 

[Rebels57]

I @‘d you! Don’t pin this on me, bub!

Ive been drinking since 1:00 PM EST so thats probably a factor

 

[tucson83]

go with Patrick or Frost at 2C good for you.

god help us, giroux should waive his clause right now if that happens.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Ive been drinking since 1:00 PM EST so thats probably a factor

I forgot that your drunk ass was on holiday today lol

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Imagine if Chuck did something like acquire Trocheck for 2.5 seasons at the cost of 2nd+Ratcliffe+Raffl.

I'm really trying to avoid hockey and admittedly doing a terrible job at it here, but Trocheck wasn't a huge name or a should-be dump like Victor Rask. He was just a good player on a team who wanted to "shake things up." You prey on the teams with that mindset and keep a long view of your franchise. That's the lesson.

 

[Tripod]

I remember a lot of people banging drums in opposition

Glad I posted:

Someone is going to overpay him.​

 

[Striiker]

The only facts and context I need in this discussion come from @Striiker .



See?

I’m legit dead,

The biggest Duchene supporters happened to be....

Spoiler: The Madrigal

Spoiler: Ghosts Beer

Spoiler: LorneMalvo

 

[Rebels57]

I forgot that your drunk ass was on holiday today lol

 

[Rebels57]

But he liked my post @ing him 2 hours ago.

 

[flyers0909]

Cool, so now we are going with revisionist history to fill in the moment. Before you strawman, I am not saying you specifically. There were a few people here banging the drum hard for Duchene, pretty much the rest said ''just go with Patrick and Frost at 2C and 3C. Either option would have worked out significantly worse than Hayes has thus far who was one of their best players in 19-20, and like almost everyone else had a down year in 20-21. I'm sure Hayes playing through a sports hernia had nothing to do with his struggles though. Hayes is the least of this team's problems right now and going after him is nothing more than pushing a clear agenda.

Throughout this whole thread you said you preferred Duchene the player but Hayes at 5/5 was the better value. For arguments sake they got essentially the same contract.
Who would you rather the Flyers sign

 

[Magua]

I'm really trying to avoid hockey and admittedly doing a terrible job at it here, but Trocheck wasn't a huge name or a should-be dump like Victor Rask. He was just a good player on a team who wanted to "shake things up." You prey on the teams with that mindset and keep a long view of your franchise. That's the lesson.

I won’t begin to understand what being a “name” actually means besides more dollars spent. Was Hayes more of a name? His lower career averages and peak compared to Trocheck doesn’t make him one on paper. Is it simply a matter of having a career 50 games for a New York team? 1st round pick trade? UFA timing?

I hate “names.” We’d all be better off without them! But, at the very least, certainly GMs would be better off not starting and ending their lists with them.