Speculation: 2021 Offseason Trade/Free Agency Thread III - To Eichel, or Not To Eichel

[Kalv]

It goes back to when that article came out about how GMs were shocked at the uber insane price Seattle set to take certain players in trades or as expansion pick.

When the dust is all settled, Seattle must find a way to reach the Salary floor so then it becomes a roulette with teams to see who gets lucky to lose a expensive player.

To reach the floor Seattle certainly isn't gonna overpay a bunch of AHL free agents because they have no value at the trade deadline and can't be flipped for anything good.

I think they will have relatively little problem to reach cap floor. There are lots of teams out there desperate to shed salary anywhere and Seattle will be able to help them.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I think they will have relatively little problem to reach cap floor. There are lots of teams out there desperate to shed salary anywhere and Seattle will be able to help them.

Tampa and Toronto are the main ones in trouble. After that it seems a lot of teams are gonna be able to find a trade partner.
I read that Montreal just gained 7.5mil in cap space with Weber on LTIR so they could trade for a pricey but 1 year remaining guy like Giordano or Subban.
The Habs already had like 22mil in cap space or that is for next offseason idk.

 

[JabbaJabba]

Fowler for Drouin + ? If Fowler agreed to waive.

No. Drouin has his issues and he hasn't been that good during his hockey career. Fowler can play top pairing minutes. If I am trading him to Montreal, I want Suzuki coming back (not going to happen I know).

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Fowler for Drouin + ? If Fowler agreed to waive.

Fowler is exponentially more crucial to any team than Drouin, and who knows if Drouin can even bounce back from his issues.

Drouin can't really be counted on for anything moving forward, Fowler can continue to soak up huge minutes.

I sort of doubt Fowler would waive for MTL either but can't say with certainty.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Fowler for Drouin + ? If Fowler agreed to waive.

The plus would have to be pretty significant

1st + 1-2 prospects

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Were you not one of the people that argued with me when I brought up with point a month or two ago?

I doubt it.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Fowler for Drouin + ? If Fowler agreed to waive.

I don't think it would take Fowler even. his value is probably at an all time low. he may have been dealing with anxiety from playing in Montreal, I hope he can resolve his issues because he still can contribute

 

[Gliff]

The plus would have to be pretty significant

1st + 1-2 prospects

2022 1st maybe.

Drouin is a complete mystery box where the top end is a top 6 forward and everything below that is a complete lose for the Ducks.
Even if Drouin bounces back to a 50 point guy I still think Fowler is equally valuable to that.

Not to mention Drouin is only signed for 2 more years so even if he does bounce back we are going to lose him in 2 years or have to overpay him.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I don't think it would take Fowler even. his value is probably at an all time low. he may have been dealing with anxiety from playing in Montreal, I hope he can resolve his issues because he still can contribute

Yeah, they'd be crazy to ask. A top-pairing D versus a third-liner head case with some upside.

 

[nbducksfan19]

Drouin is more likely to be waived than the centerpiece of a Fowler trade, and I don’t even like Fowler

 

[WhatTheDuck]

2022 1st maybe.

Drouin is a complete mystery box where the top end is a top 6 forward and everything below that is a complete lose for the Ducks.
Even if Drouin bounces back to a 50 point guy I still think Fowler is equally valuable to that.

Not to mention Drouin is only signed for 2 more years so even if he does bounce back we are going to lose him in 2 years or have to overpay him.

Not to nitpick but I think Fowler is undoubtedly more valuable than a ~ 50 point winger who is pretty much only bringing that offense to the table and little else.

As much as I wouldn't expect a team to likely trade a top line forward for Fowler, anything less than that is probably a loss for us in terms of a hockey trade for Fowler. The exception would perhaps be a very good 2C, but Fowler brings more to the table and is more vital to the team than most second line forwards in general.

 

[LuckyDucky]

I doubt it.

I don't post here a ton, so I don't know how to quote it, but this is what you said on May 10th in response to my post:

"Yeah, man, it's not going to be that hard to find complimentary players to "build out" a roster that has Zegras, Eichel, Lundestrom, Terry, Comtois, Jones, Heinen, Silf, Henrique, Rowney, and Grant, even if ZERO prospects make the team in the next two years, which seems unlikely. That's like 3 guys we'd need. That's a cheap roster, too, with plenty of space for an FA upgrade if desired.

And, the Ducks would have been in the playoff hunt THIS YEAR with a half-decent power play. It's also not a great idea to project how good or bad the team will be based on this season, where we only played a few teams, and 3 good teams are leaving our division next season."

 

[bsu]

Drouin is more likely to be waived than the centerpiece of a Fowler trade, and I don’t even like Fowler

Agreed

 

[MCB]

I don't post here a ton, so I don't know how to quote it, but this is what you said on May 10th in response to my post:

"Yeah, man, it's not going to be that hard to find complimentary players to "build out" a roster that has Zegras, Eichel, Lundestrom, Terry, Comtois, Jones, Heinen, Silf, Henrique, Rowney, and Grant, even if ZERO prospects make the team in the next two years, which seems unlikely. That's like 3 guys we'd need. That's a cheap roster, too, with plenty of space for an FA upgrade if desired.

And, the Ducks would have been in the playoff hunt THIS YEAR with a half-decent power play. It's also not a great idea to project how good or bad the team will be based on this season, where we only played a few teams, and 3 good teams are leaving our division next season."

Damn, I can't even remember what I posted yesterday

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I don't post here a ton, so I don't know how to quote it, but this is what you said on May 10th in response to my post:

"Yeah, man, it's not going to be that hard to find complimentary players to "build out" a roster that has Zegras, Eichel, Lundestrom, Terry, Comtois, Jones, Heinen, Silf, Henrique, Rowney, and Grant, even if ZERO prospects make the team in the next two years, which seems unlikely. That's like 3 guys we'd need. That's a cheap roster, too, with plenty of space for an FA upgrade if desired.

And, the Ducks would have been in the playoff hunt THIS YEAR with a half-decent power play. It's also not a great idea to project how good or bad the team will be based on this season, where we only played a few teams, and 3 good teams are leaving our division next season."

In response to this question from you: "Say the Ducks package the 1st OA, next year's 1st, and Perreault for Eichel. Where else are the Ducks building out the roster? Free agency?"

Do you see Zegras or Drysdale in your proposal? Me neither.

 

[gilfaizon]

Seeing rumors of McCann and Pettersson being exposed by Pittsburgh. I'd be very interested at bringing McCann in if the price is right. Plays hard and has some touch. Also terrific on the PP.

 

[Gliff]

Not to nitpick but I think Fowler is undoubtedly more valuable than a ~ 50 point winger who is pretty much only bringing that offense to the table and little else.

As much as I wouldn't expect a team to likely trade a top line forward for Fowler, anything less than that is probably a loss for us in terms of a hockey trade for Fowler. The exception would perhaps be a very good 2C, but Fowler brings more to the table and is more vital to the team than most second line forwards in general.

We are on the same page.

Fowler is a lifelong Duck unless they have to move him for cap reasons.

 

[Vipers31]

Seeing rumors of McCann and Pettersson being exposed by Pittsburgh. I'd be very interested at bringing McCann in if the price is right. Plays hard and has some touch. Also terrific on the PP.

Damn, feels like just a day ago since I found out we’d be lucky to get McCann for Gibson.

 

[Gliff]

Seeing rumors of McCann and Pettersson being exposed by Pittsburgh. I'd be very interested at bringing McCann in if the price is right. Plays hard and has some touch. Also terrific on the PP.

I'm shocked they would expose him. The Ducks should 100% be targeting him.

 

[gilfaizon]

I'm shocked they would expose him. The Ducks should 100% be targeting him.

There is obviously the possibility that the Pens will pay Seattle to pick Zucker or another player. But they could also be shopping him. We will find out soon enough.

 

[Tunapants]

I don't post here a ton, so I don't know how to quote it, but this is what you said on May 10th in response to my post:

"Yeah, man, it's not going to be that hard to find complimentary players to "build out" a roster that has Zegras, Eichel, Lundestrom, Terry, Comtois, Jones, Heinen, Silf, Henrique, Rowney, and Grant, even if ZERO prospects make the team in the next two years, which seems unlikely. That's like 3 guys we'd need. That's a cheap roster, too, with plenty of space for an FA upgrade if desired.

And, the Ducks would have been in the playoff hunt THIS YEAR with a half-decent power play. It's also not a great idea to project how good or bad the team will be based on this season, where we only played a few teams, and 3 good teams are leaving our division next season."

Hes 100% correct too, with that package building out the rest of the roster would be very easy.

 

[Static]

It's funny that the argument against getting eichel would be becoming buffalo or Edmonton when it's clear as day why those franchises fail.

Those teams made awful decisions on how to fill out the rest of their roster and continue doing so.

 

[Static]

Sure wouldn't mind taking a long look at McCann in Pittsburgh. Might come much cheaper since Seattle will likely scoop him up.

Aston-reese as well, what a defensive forward he is.

 

[AngelDuck]

It's funny that the argument against getting eichel would be becoming buffalo or Edmonton when it's clear as day why those franchises fail.

Those teams made awful decisions on how to fill out the rest of their roster and continue doing so.

Exactly. And they also can’t draft in the later rounds. We don’t have that problem

 

[ShadowDuck]

Forgot about this. About 24 hours left for teams to make moves before the expansion draft.