Speculation: 2021 Offseason Roster Discussion

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duxfan1101

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New numbers on our website:

Terry: 19 (this is his favorite jersey number I guess. He had 61 because that's essentially an upside down ''19'')
Lundestrom: 21
Comtois: 44

Zegras and Drysdale remain with their first ones. It seems to me that our management is letting players chose their numbers only after one full season. It used to be a bit faster IIRC, we would had given Z and Drysdale their numbers already. Zegras recently indicated he would like to have #13 (because of Datsyuk) – only a matter of time.
Happy for Terry. Thought he should have gotten to choose his number last year, but this should make him truly feel like he's earned his spot.
 

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Apologies for the lack of education, but what's the deal with Drysdale, the OHL and AHL? Is it still OHL or NHL for Drysdale, or can he be sent to the Gulls? I seem to recall that it's still OHL and NHL only, in which case I would prefer to have Drysdale sheltered in the NHL.

Best case scenario, he should be going and dominating the A rather than being up here.

Thing is he dominated the A last year, which is why he got promoted to the NHL club. The jump to the NHL was great to begin with, but then he wore down. I'd like him not on the top pairing. Let Lindholm-Manson do the heavy lifting. The problem with Drysdale is he's too good for the OHL, proved he's a top defenseman in the AHL, but still physically behind for the NHL. The second problem is we don't have enough RHD talent to keep him down in the AHL, which is what happened last year.

Let's hope that there is a provision between the OHL and NHL that includes NHL games played into the AHL games played waiver for OHL prospects.
 

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New numbers on our website:

Terry: 19 (this is his favorite jersey number I guess. He had 61 because that's essentially an upside down ''19'')
Lundestrom: 21
Comtois: 44

Zegras and Drysdale remain with their first ones. It seems to me that our management is letting players chose their numbers only after one full season. It used to be a bit faster IIRC, we would had given Z and Drysdale their numbers already. Zegras recently indicated he would like to have #13 (because of Datsyuk) – only a matter of time.

Technically Z and Jim are still rookies as they qualify for the Calder this coming season. I kinda like the notion that they still haven't been established enough yet to earn their numbers. Like you said, it's just a matter of time for these two.
 
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. Zegras recently indicated he would like to have #13 (because of Datsyuk) – only a matter of time.

There is a better player than Datsyuk who wore 13 to aspire to..
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19 is an elite number... put some numbers up
 

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Terry really turned the corner last year. Hoping he can turn his better mastery of the puck into some production this year.

I wanted to see Terry hit around or higher than a .50 PPG, I think he was just over a .40? With this team really not bad, and playing under Eakins and a historically bad PP not easy to produce. I know these players would be producing a lot more if the system and coaching was better or on another team surrounded by more skill. So really can’t put all the fault on a lot these players for their lower numbers.
 

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I wanted to see Terry hit around or higher than a .50 PPG, I think he was just over a .40? With this team really not bad, and playing under Eakins and a historically bad PP not easy to produce. I know these players would be producing a lot more if the system and coaching was better or on another team surrounded by more skill. So really can’t put all the fault on a lot these players for their lower numbers.

tl;dr version: We had a bad SoS, were without our top defensemen, and our offense couldn't keep up with the playoff teams in our division for 32 games! We faced them 8 times each in a season. This season, we see Vegas only 4 times. It was a cluster-Duck last season for us.

sumo-wrestlers-big-guy-vs-small-guy-71790961.png




Epic version: I was looking at our Strength of Schedule (SoS) for last season and it indicated we had one of the roughest schedules. All the CA teams had it rough in the West "Honda" division (we're the Honda division, right?) I couldn't find much for the 2019-20 SoS except for the remaining games of that season, where it had our SoS in the middle of the pack.


2019-20
Ducks
YearType of GamesGamesWLOTL1G ptsWin Pct
2019-20Total71293396740.8%
1-goal games3315993945.5%
Non 1-g games38142402836.8%
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Percentage of 1-goal games: 46.5%​
2020-21
Ducks
YearType of GamesGamesWLOTL1G ptsWin Pct
2020-21Total56173094330.4%
1-goal games29101092934.5%
Non 1-g games2772001425.9%
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Percentage of 1-goal games: 51.8%​
Although we were involved in more one-goal games in 2020-21, we just sucked, especially in games that weren't close.

Division Breakdown

Against non-playoff teams
Ducks2020-21
OpponentsGPWLOTLPts.GFGAGD
Arizona824261725-8
LA844082225-3
SJ8431922202
Total2410113236170-9
Pts/GPGF/GPGA/GP
Average0.962.542.92-0.38
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

This shows we're about a .500 team against similarly talented teams. Our win record against the non-playoff teams are 0.416 and point production is 0.958.
Against playoff teams
Ducks2020-21
OpponentsGPWLOTLPts.GFGAGD
Vegas815241329-16
Colorado824261930-11
Minny815241424-10
St. Louis835061926-7
Total3271962065109-44
Pts/GPGF/GPGA/GPGD/GP
Average0.632.033.41-1.38
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

This is where our offense and defense cannot keep up with these more talented teams. Our win record against the playoff teams are 0.218 and point production is 0.625. The silver lining is we faced each team 8 times last year. This year, we face Vegas 4 times and Edmonton 3 times. That reduces our chances of getting beat down as often!
  • Manson played in 23 out of 56 games, or 41.1% of the time.
  • Lindholm played in 18 out of 56 games, or 32.1% of the time.
A significant reason our defense drops is because we were missing both Manson and Lindholm for the majority of the season, who are our best defensemen.

Lindholm
2020-21
First 33 games
ItemGamesWLOTLPts.GFGAGDGF/GPGF/GPGF/GP
Total33918624.72112-402.183.39-1.21
W/o Lindholm153939.3764-272.474.27-1.80
w/ Lindholm1869315.3548-131.942.67-0.72
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
These are all 18 games that Lindholm participated in for the season. The goal differential without Lindholm is staggering, especially when you consider there are three more games played with Lindholm on the ice.

Manson
2020-21
First 33 games
Exclude Mansonreturn........
ItemGamesWLOTLPts.GFGAGD
W/O Lindholm153939.3764-27
W/o L, M in 42115.14140
No L + M111824.2350-27
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
We are down right abysmal without Lindholm and Manson in the lineup.​
== Our offense ==
2019-20 Top-10 Duck scorers
2019-20
PlayerGamesGA PtsPPG
Henrique712617430.61
Rakell651527420.65
Getzlaf691329420.61
Silf662118390.59
Fowler59920290.49
Kase49716230.47
Steel65616220.34
Lindholm55220220.40
Grant49146200.41
Ritchie41811190.46
Average0.50
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We lost Kase and Ritchie at the trade deadline. It's a blow to our offense, but then again Kase being made out of glass is also a blow to our offense.
2020-21 Top-10 Ducks scorers
2020-21
PlayerGamesGA PtsPPGPPG Diff 2019 for top-10
Comtois551617330.60NA
Rakell52919280.54-0.11
Fowler56518230.41-0.08
Henrique45129210.47-0.14
Terry48713200.42NA
Getzlaf48512170.35-0.25
Silf4788160.34-0.25
Grant4669150.33-0.08
Shattenkirk55213150.27NA
Heinen4377140.33NA
Average0.41-0.10
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
All the "NA" means they are new to the top-10. Across the board for the top-10 players on both sides, we see their production drop.​

We're gonna rely on the growth of Comtois, Zegras, and Drysdale while hoping Silf and Rico go back to their scoring ways. I think going back to a normal schedule will help the whole team. As is, we're a bottom dwelling team due to our SoS in the strong West. With a normal distribution of games and being in a weak Pacific, the Ducks can look like a fringe playoff team, but unless some talent carries the offense for us this year without any more moves, the future doesn't look great. We might benefit from a weak schedule, but we're still a weak team.
 
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tl;dr version: We had a bad SoS, were without our top defensemen, and our offense couldn't keep up with the playoff teams in our division for 32 games! We faced them 8 times each in a season. This season, we see Vegas only 4 times. It was a cluster-Duck last season for us.

sumo-wrestlers-big-guy-vs-small-guy-71790961.png




Epic version: I was looking at our Strength of Schedule (SoS) for last season and it indicated we had one of the roughest schedules. All the CA teams had it rough in the West "Honda" division (we're the Honda division, right?) I couldn't find much for the 2019-20 SoS except for the remaining games of that season, where it had our SoS in the middle of the pack.


2019-20
Ducks
YearType of GamesGamesWLOTL1G ptsWin Pct
2019-20Total71293396740.8%
1-goal games3315993945.5%
Non 1-g games38142402836.8%
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Percentage of 1-goal games: 46.5%​
2020-21
Ducks
YearType of GamesGamesWLOTL1G ptsWin Pct
2020-21Total56173094330.4%
1-goal games29101092934.5%
Non 1-g games2772001425.9%
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Percentage of 1-goal games: 51.8%​
Although we were involved in more one-goal games in 2020-21, we just sucked, especially in games that weren't close.

Division Breakdown

Against non-playoff teams
Ducks2020-21
OpponentsGPWLOTLPts.GFGAGD
Arizona824261725-8
LA844082225-3
SJ8431922202
Total2410113236170-9
Pts/GPGF/GPGA/GP
Average0.962.542.92-0.38
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

This shows we're about a .500 team against similarly talented teams. Our win record against the non-playoff teams are 0.416 and point production is 0.958.
Against playoff teams
Ducks2020-21
OpponentsGPWLOTLPts.GFGAGD
Vegas815241329-16
Colorado824261930-11
Minny815241424-10
St. Louis835061926-7
Total3271962065109-44
Pts/GPGF/GPGA/GPGD/GP
Average0.632.033.41-1.38
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

This is where our offense and defense cannot keep up with these more talented teams. Our win record against the playoff teams are 0.218 and point production is 0.625. The silver lining is we faced each team 8 times last year. This year, we face Vegas 4 times and Edmonton 3 times. That reduces our chances of getting beat down as often!
  • Manson played in 23 out of 56 games, or 41.1% of the time.
  • Lindholm played in 18 out of 56 games, or 32.1% of the time.
A significant reason our defense drops is because we were missing both Manson and Lindholm for the majority of the season, who are our best defensemen.

Lindholm
2020-21
First 33 games
ItemGamesWLOTLPts.GFGAGDGF/GPGF/GPGF/GP
Total33918624.72112-402.183.39-1.21
W/o Lindholm153939.3764-272.474.27-1.80
w/ Lindholm1869315.3548-131.942.67-0.72
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
These are all 18 games that Lindholm participated in for the season. The goal differential without Lindholm is staggering, especially when you consider there are three more games played with Lindholm on the ice.

Manson
2020-21
First 33 games
Exclude Mansonreturn........
ItemGamesWLOTLPts.GFGAGD
W/O Lindholm153939.3764-27
W/o L, M in 42115.14140
No L + M111824.2350-27
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
We are down right abysmal without Lindholm and Manson in the lineup.​
== Our offense ==
2019-20 Top-10 Duck scorers
2019-20
PlayerGamesGA PtsPPG
Henrique712617430.61
Rakell651527420.65
Getzlaf691329420.61
Silf662118390.59
Fowler59920290.49
Kase49716230.47
Steel65616220.34
Lindholm55220220.40
Grant49146200.41
Ritchie41811190.46
Average0.50
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
We lost Kase and Ritchie at the trade deadline. It's a blow to our offense, but then again Kase being made out of glass is also a blow to our offense.
2020-21 Top-10 Ducks scorers
2020-21
PlayerGamesGA PtsPPGPPG Diff 2019 for top-10
Comtois551617330.60NA
Rakell52919280.54-0.11
Fowler56518230.41-0.08
Henrique45129210.47-0.14
Terry48713200.42NA
Getzlaf48512170.35-0.25
Silf4788160.34-0.25
Grant4669150.33-0.08
Shattenkirk55213150.27NA
Heinen4377140.33NA
Average0.41-0.10
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
All the "NA" means they are new to the top-10. Across the board for the top-10 players on both sides, we see their production drop.​

We're gonna rely on the growth of Comtois, Zegras, and Drysdale while hoping Silf and Rico go back to their scoring ways. I think going back to a normal schedule will help the whole team. As it, we're a bottom dwelling team due to our SoS in the strong West. With a normal distribution of games and being in a weak Pacific, the Ducks can look like a fringe playoff team, but unless some talent carries the offense for us this year without any more moves, the future doesn't look great. We might benefit from a weak schedule, but we're still a weak team.

I have to say: even though I don't always get to read your posts in-full due to time constraints, I can't help but respect the time and effort you put in.

TLDR: Nice work.
 

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Just got an email from the Ducks advertising preseason tickets for "Your First Chance to See New-Look Ducks!"

I lol'd
If McTavish makes the roster they should do a promo with McDonalds where every McTavish point is a free vanilla cone and every goal of his is a Free large fries.
 
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