2020 NHL Entry Draft - Never too early....

[hawksrule]

Leave it to the NHL to come up with as cockamamie a system as possible.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Professional athletes aren’t going to do this. Lol

I also don’t see what half your post has to do with having 1 lottery after all odds will be finalized. It’s like having a lottery at 77 games and then after 82 games. I just don’t see the point.

They wouldn't do it, but who's to say management wouldn't bench their best players?
I completely agree with you, that there should just be one lottery after the play-in games.

 

[Kevin Musto]

If an unassigned pick jumps to the top 3, all the play-in teams are gonna tank.

Imagine if an unassigned pick wins 1st overall. Seabs will be logging 60 minutes against Edmonton.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

If an unassigned pick jumps to the top 3, all the play-in teams are gonna tank.

Imagine if an unassigned pick wins 1st overall. Seabs will be logging 60 minutes against Edmonton.

This would be a nightmare, and why I wish they'd wait until the play-in round is over and just run the lotto as normal.

 

[Kevin Musto]

This would be a nightmare, and why I wish they'd wait until the play-in round is over and just run the lotto as normal.

Exactly. This format only works if the bottom 7 teams win the lottery.

If an unassigned pick jumps up, you're going to get intentional tanking from a team like Pittsburgh or Edmonton that should in no way have a shot at a top 3 pick.

It will be a nightmare if the second lottery phase is needed.

 

[hawksrule]

This would be a nightmare, and why I wish they'd wait until the play-in round is over and just run the lotto as normal.

I can't even figure out what the rationale is for doing it in stages.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I can't even figure out what the rationale is for doing it in stages.

Neither can I.

 

[Ja Sports]

New hype reel for Kaiden Guhle very complete defender who had his offence limited by the Raiders' system

I think his game also translates well to the NHL - just like his brother's. Let me know what you think!

 

[Rick C137]

It’s ridiculous that because people were mad about the hawks having a chance to win the cup and draft #1 overall... the solution is to give the team that finished 5th overall and have Crosby and Malkin the same exact chance at Laf as a team that finished 24th?

 

[Crow]

How is it determined which slot a losing play in team will pick? Seed position?

 

[Kevin Musto]

How is it determined which slot a losing play in team will pick? Seed position?

Picks 8-15 are now unassigned and belong to nobody.

If an unassigned pick jumps into the top 3, they do another lottery to determine who gets that pick.

Odds will be based points, how they usually do the draft.

For example if Montreal were eliminated, they'd have the highest odds.

 

[Crow]

Picks 8-15 are now unassigned and belong to nobody.

If an unassigned pick jumps into the top 3, they do another lottery to determine who gets that pick.

Odds will be based points, how they usually do the draft.

For example if Montreal were eliminated, they'd have the highest odds.

Okay that’s what I thought even if I didn’t explain myself very well because the seeds are also based off points I’m assuming.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

The article has been edited. It now says that all teams will have a 12.5% chance in the phase 2 lottery.

 

[Kevin Musto]

The article has been edited. It now says that all teams will have a 12.5% chance in the phase 2 lottery.

That's ridiculous.

Sucks for us if we lose, but great if you're Edmonton or Pittsburgh and lose.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

That's ridiculous.

Sucks for us if we lose, but great if you're Edmonton or Pittsburgh and lose.

I agree, but whatever. If they lose worst realistic case they pick 11th. No biggie.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I agree, but whatever. If they lose worst realistic case they pick 11th. No biggie.

f*** that. f*** the pick. We're winning the cup.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

f*** that. f*** the pick. We're winning the cup.

Lmaooooo

 

[Malaka]

2020 NHL Draft Lottery procedure
2nd lottery is weighted

Anyone else reminded of the monty hall problem? Seems like we have a higher chance of winning now.

Monty Hall problem - Wikipedia

 

[hawksrule]

Anyone else reminded of the monty hall problem? Seems like we have a higher chance of winning now.

Monty Hall problem - Wikipedia

In what way is it comparable to the Monty hall problem?

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Anyone else reminded of the monty hall problem? Seems like we have a higher chance of winning now.

Monty Hall problem - Wikipedia

That's incorrect actually. the NHL updated their site and that is actually not true. The play-in teams will all have a 12.5% chance at a top 3 pick, should it happen that a team jumps from 8 or later to the top 3.

 

[ColbyChaos]

That's incorrect actually. the NHL updated their site and that is actually not true. The play-in teams will all have a 12.5% chance at a top 3 pick, should it happen that a team jumps from 8 or later to the top 3.

That is complete bull shit

 

[TheDachKnight]

If a play-in series loser wins a top-3 pick, we have the 2nd highest odds of getting that pick. If we lose against Edmonton, Lafreniere is ours.

 

[Malaka]

In what way is it comparable to the Monty hall problem?

Yes well first my info at the time was wrong, where I read the second lottery was weighted based on inverse point percentage.

The idea was that the odds change for the better once "Assigned Teams A-F" win a lottery draw. At some point before the playoffs even start we know whether that happens so, it would be as if we had the choice to change our decision to not make the playoffs and we would have a greater chance at winning the lottery

That's incorrect actually. the NHL updated their site and that is actually not true. The play-in teams will all have a 12.5% chance at a top 3 pick, should it happen that a team jumps from 8 or later to the top 3.

Thst is pretty brutal imo

 

[ChicagoHockeyFan]

Some of the real high risk players are definitely gonna slide in this draft and hawks love to bet on skill and upside over a sure thing, hence the Nylander for Joker trade. I could see a guy like Poirier being available in late 1st or early 2nd and we could move up for him. Lapierre is for sure gonna slide too but I wouldn’t use a top pick on him with his injury history. Safer players like Sanderson, Schneider, Lundell are probably gonna go way earlier than most expect

 

[LavalPhantom]

Is there a scenario where the Hawks can advance to the 16-team bracket and still pick 9? Specifically, if no unassigned pick jumps in the top 3, will it just pre-determine the draft position entirely or would it be Edmonton picking 9 if the Hawks beat them?