2019 Roster and Fantasy GM Thread VI

[member 290103]

If they wanted to trade Stecher, why not keep Biega as their third pairing RD?

I know right...they always do logical things so this would make no sense.

 

[iceburg]

Now that Sutter is on the wing and isn't blocking Gaudette at the 3C, and Eriksson is in the press box, I actually kinda like the forward set-up. Leivo is probably playing too high in the line-up but he has been good.

Miller Pettersson Boeser
Leivo Horvat Pearson
Ferland Gaudette Sutter
Schaller Beagle Virtanen
Erikssonc Motte

When Roussel Returns even better:

Miller Pettersson Boeser
Leivo Horvat Pearson
Ferland Gaudette Sutter
Roussel Beagle Virtanen
Eriksson Motte

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I’d love Palmeri on this team. What do you think the cost is?

 

[timw33]

I’d love Palmeri on this team. What do you think the cost is?

Well the cost was a 2nd 15' + 3rd 16' at the 2015 draft.

Instead we used the extra 2nd we had from Garrison to acquire Linden Vey, then a month later we traded another 2nd (from Bieksa trade) in the Sutter deal.

The time to acquire him was at the 2015 draft where it would have been a far better use of picks than what we ended up with. Unfortunately he's UFA and 29 after next season so probably not a good idea.

 

[4Twenty]

Won't really fit Benning and Travis' vision, but Kevin Fiala being a healthy scratch in Minnesota is really interesting. The deal to be made probably centers around Virtanen .

Highly skilled player.

 

[timw33]

Won't really fit Benning and Travis' vision, but Kevin Fiala being a healthy scratch in Minnesota is really interesting. The deal to be made probably centers around Virtanen .

Highly skilled player.

We'd have to be sending salary back since we have I think.....$0 in cap space right now

 

[4Twenty]

We'd have to be sending salary back since we have I think.....$0 in cap space right now

Oh yeah, I just meant he'd be a good target, haven't crunched the numbers.

 

[rypper]

If Hischier is getting 7.25 x 7, I have to think Pettersson's next deal starts with double digits.

 

[Horvat1C]

Would the Eichel contract work for Pettersson? 8 years, 10 million per signing this summer.

I would probably bite the bullet on whatever the 8 year ask his for Pettersson though. No sense in paying him even more once the TV deal expires, although we did just give Boeser that contract.

 

[Addison Rae]

Taylor Hall has been my favorite player in the league for quite some time, say the Canucks are 2nd in the pacific at the deadline and New Jersey is out of things.

Would you guys be interested in moving Pod+ for a signed Taylor Hall? Using the Stone deal from last year as a comparison.

(Obviously some cap things would need to be worked out)

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

Taylor Hall has been my favorite player in the league for quite some time, say the Canucks are 2nd in the pacific at the deadline and New Jersey is out of things.

Would you guys be interested in moving Pod+ for a signed Taylor Hall? Using the Stone deal from last year as a comparison.

(Obviously some cap things would need to be worked out)

Taylor hall has a lot of miles on his body so I’m not interested in paying 10+. Million on a winger that might not age that well.

 

[vanuck]

I wanted them to sell off veterans and acquire more picks (which of course hasn't happened) but I realize they've already decided to "go for it" by trading a "conditional pick" for Miller and giving money and term to a guy like Myers.

Still torn on what direction the team should take.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Taylor Hall has been my favorite player in the league for quite some time, say the Canucks are 2nd in the pacific at the deadline and New Jersey is out of things.

Would you guys be interested in moving Pod+ for a signed Taylor Hall? Using the Stone deal from last year as a comparison.

(Obviously some cap things would need to be worked out)

Pod has insane potential. More than a lot of people realize. But I’d do that deal without question. Hall is entering his prime and is so underrated. Love him. Pod+Eriksson+asset maybe for Cap purposes?

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Taylor hall has a lot of miles on his body so I’m not interested in paying 10+. Million on a winger that might not age that well.

What miles on his body? The guy has never played in the playoffs lmao

 

[BWJM]

Do you guys think acquiring Barrie in the off season would make the Canucks a for sure playoff team?

 

[UK Canuck]

Do you guys think acquiring Barrie in the off season would make the Canucks a for sure playoff team?

not sure we'll be able to afford Barrie unless we move out a heap of contracts which I'm not sure we have the assets to do, we need to re-sign Markström who will get a pay rise too

 

[Hoghandler]

Do you guys think acquiring Barrie in the off season would make the Canucks a for sure playoff team?

I was a fan of the idea before seeing Hughes step in and look like a 1st unit PP star. Now that we know that role will be adequately filled for the next decade, it really limits the value of a guy like Barrie, assuming you have to give him a market value offer to get him signed.

At $6mil, without crazy term, you look at it. $7.5mil+? Don’t see him earning that deal with Hughes in the mix.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Taylor Hall has been my favorite player in the league for quite some time, say the Canucks are 2nd in the pacific at the deadline and New Jersey is out of things.

Would you guys be interested in moving Pod+ for a signed Taylor Hall? Using the Stone deal from last year as a comparison.

(Obviously some cap things would need to be worked out)

i'd rather re-sign markstrom. if we can do that and replace tanev and then sign anybody else i will be surprised.

 

[krutovsdonut]

the other thing about a big addition like hall is that in two years we have to pay the piper on hughes, pettersson and demko. not interested in taking on a huge contract that will interfere with that. i really think the leafs have blown it signing tavares and tavares was probably the best ufa signing in the last decade.

 

[MS]

With Hughes in place, would have very little interest in Barrie. These 2nd pairing/PP specialist types get really overrated.

Look what's happened to Barrie's production in Toronto when he's gone to a team where Rielly is the go-to PP guy. His biggest skill basically is redundant there and they're left with basically a 2nd pairing defender who bleeds more goals than he creates at ES and can't PK.

 

[Hoghandler]

With Hughes in place, would have very little interest in Barrie. These 2nd pairing/PP specialist types get really overrated.

I agree with not pursuing Barrie, due to Hughes, but these types are exceptionally valuable if you don’t already have a 1st unit PP guy.

On that front, you have to wonder if Kyle Dubas has targeted the right players to supplement the elite, talented core he had in place going into the summer. Also can’t help but wonder if he survives another playoff disappointment. The Leafs are exceptionally talented, but that makeup looks questionable to me.

 

[MS]

I agree with not pursuing Barrie, due to Hughes, but these types are exceptionally valuable if you don’t already have a 1st unit PP guy.

Yes, but there are incredibly diminishing returns on each additional one you add to your roster.

Which is why I'd be trading Juolevi if he puts himself in a position where he gives himself any sort of value. The only thing Juolevi does really well is something that Hughes does better.

On that front, you have to wonder if Kyle Dubas has targeted the right players to supplement the elite, talented core he had in place going into the summer. Also can’t help but wonder if he survives another playoff disappointment. The Leafs are exceptionally talented, but that makeup looks questionable to me.

Barrie looks like a bad target but they did a great job building their bottom-6 around cheap guys like Mikheyev and Moore and Ceci has been a lot better than I expected.

I don't think he's in even a little bit of danger after only 2 years on the job. Babcock might be, but GMs don't get fired after two playoff seasons with the same coach.

In any case, they've received crap goaltending so far this year and that will correct as we go along. That's a very good team, much as I hate them.

 

[krutovsdonut]

With Hughes in place, would have very little interest in Barrie. These 2nd pairing/PP specialist types get really overrated.

Look what's happened to Barrie's production in Toronto when he's gone to a team where Rielly is the go-to PP guy. His biggest skill basically is redundant there and they're left with basically a 2nd pairing defender who bleeds more goals than he creates at ES and can't PK.

barrie to me is a guy you sign when you have built a team without an offensive dman, he's also not a guaranteed fit with hughes and if he plays on another pairing you then do not have a shut down match up pair.

that being said, the recent rumblings about stecher being on the block may well indicate the canucks do not agree. one explanation for that move is they want to get bigger and/or move on from stecher. another is they want to make room for another small guy.

 

[CloutierForVezina]

What miles on his body? The guy has never played in the playoffs lmao

He plays a very physically punishing game and often puts himself in dangerous spots which leads to frequent injuries. He has only played 562 out of a possible 704 before the start of this season.

On top of that, he's getting up there in age. Would be very concerned about signing him long term.

Despite how great a player he is right now, I'd stay away. If he wants to do short term deals I'd be all over him so long as the term is no longer than 3 years but I don't see why he would do that. Someone will offer him 10+/year for 7 years and he'll take it.

 

[4Twenty]

Do you guys think acquiring Barrie in the off season would make the Canucks a for sure playoff team?

No, I don't see any reason to acquire Barrie other than him being a BC kid. They've got Quinn Hughes to play the exact role that Barrie would need to be successful. Especially considering Barrie will require a long term deal with a massive caphit.

Not a Barrie fan, and I think the team needs a different type of defensman.

If the Canucks want to make a Free Agency splash, the guy to grab just captained the Stanley Cup Champions. Not saying he'd come here, but that's the type of player the Canucks need and he'd basically take over Edler's minutes.

I spent an hour last night trying to come up with good RH defensman trade targets and it's a really shallow list. At this point, I might just try to skate by with what they have and make a concerted effort to have as much cap space as possible for the summer of 2022. My dream is being able to afford Seth Jones (if he even makes it to UFA, which he might since Werenski is RFA the same summer and they're going to eat up a ton of cash).