2019 Roster and Fantasy GM Thread III
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me2
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IIRC he had a 10 team no trade list? Hoffman's team would be one of those, so that leaves 9. Maybe 4 places in the US he REALLY didn't want to, and every other spot he dedicated to Canada. I'd imagine we escaped as the least worst, if it was an 11 team list...
Hopefully other NHL GMs believe this.
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Goldobin as a ‘Brandon Tanev type’ who finishes his checks and is going to be a great role player?
That’s still not as bad as waiver bait Alex Chaisson being Edmonton’s nomination for having McDavid bounce in 15 pucks off him.
I agree. For the sake of discussion, how much money do you think Pavelski, Karlsson and Meier will command this summer?
You don’t prioritize Pavelski, who is 35. You sign guys for what they will do, not what they’ve done, and as good as his season is this year you don’t sacrifice a Karlsson to keep diminishing returns on Pavelski around.
Once you spend $11 million or whatever on Karlsson and $5-6 million on Hertl, you see what you have left and if you can move another contract to help get money freed up for Pavelski. If not, that’s life.
BROCK HUGHES
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Just reading the who is scouting who page....I have not seen a lot of canuck scouts on those pages.. are our guys a sleep in Bennings office.
I agree with all of that. I still think that due to San Jose's cap problems they might have trouble matching if someone offers Karlsson something like $13M AAV.
They are clearly the favourites, no arguments there. I just don't think it's the forgone conclusion the way some people are treating it.
If Karlsson doesn't take a discount to stay there and signs for the $12.5M or so he'd easily get on the open market, that leaves $13M to sign another 8 guys. After paying Meier $7M of that you're looking at $6M for the final 7 players. Definitely not re-signing Labanc, Pavelski, or Donskoi with that cap space. Maybe Thornton if he wants to play for nothing.
Tldr: Yes San Jose should prioritize re-signing Karlsson over everyone else, but they will lose all their depth if they have to sign him at market value.
Jeff Paterson reported that the same Devils scout was at all 3 Canucks games in California.
According to Botchford, the Devils asked about Gudbranson a season or so ago, discussing Miles Wood going the other way.
I was browsing the web for Canucks scout sightings last month, finding reports of Vancouver watching the Flyers 6 or 7 times, if I rememeber correctly, in about a months period.
Canucks scouts were also watching Mike DiPietro and the Ottawa 67's vs the Kitchener Rangers last night. DiPietro made 28 saves in a 6-3 win.
These things usually amount to little to nothing, but still earns my curiosity.
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Hughes4Calder
Obviously. Low-end 1st round picks aren’t hard to acquire when you’re offering two young improving players like that,
As an example, Ryan Hartman (a comparable role/age/production player to Virtanen) was traded for a #1 pick AND a decent prospect at this time last year.
A Hutton-Virtanen package is probably worth 3 late #1 picks.
PM
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I usually agree with you MS but I’d be pretty pissed if I was a fan of a contending team and we traded that much pick capital for those two. I probably like Hutton more than most here but I think Virtanen isn’t going to amount to much. I don’t think either adds enough for a playoff team going for it this year but if you are a future building team your pick will be too high to be worth it. I’d do a late pick for Hutton but I wouldn’t give much for Virtanen, maybe a second.
One of the guys who works for me who is one of those hilarious optimists was adamant Virtanen would score 30 this year. I laughed and said he won’t get 30 points. I was mostly joking but I may end up right on that one and he’s of course very wrong. He still thinks Juolevi will be a top pairing dman too. Ah, to be young again.
One of the guys who works for me who is one of those hilarious optimists was adamant Virtanen would score 30 this year. I laughed and said he won’t get 30 points. I was mostly joking but I may end up right on that one and he’s of course very wrong. He still thinks Juolevi will be a top pairing dman too. Ah, to be young again.
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Either Hutton or Virtanen would get a late 1st+ on their own without much problem.
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Hughes4Calder
Exactly. Late 1sts don’t have as much value as people think. They hardly pan out so reading that for two proven young players is an EASY yes.
It’s weird how people seem to value all #1 picks so evenly.
A #5 overall pick is worth like four #25 overall picks. Picks 20-30 have about a 30% success rate and if you can trade a pick like that for a solid young NHLer that’s pretty much an automatic win.
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Yes you should see some of the hilarity on the main trade boards with regards to 1st and 2nd round picks. If we were a contender i could add 6 rock solid players in 3 yrs with some of the knuckleheads overvalue of picks.
Statistically 10-15 really good impact players every year
45-50 300 game players which are basically top9 top5 GK1 types
More picks are always good and you need to throw some shots at the board to get a Edler Hansen Bieksa Hutton Connauton Gaudette but lets be honest about it.......20yrs and a 100 selections later we have 3 good NHLers a couple that are marginal and has potential to be good and 1 first line defenseman from the 3rd round on............6%
Statistically 10-15 really good impact players every year
45-50 300 game players which are basically top9 top5 GK1 types
More picks are always good and you need to throw some shots at the board to get a Edler Hansen Bieksa Hutton Connauton Gaudette but lets be honest about it.......20yrs and a 100 selections later we have 3 good NHLers a couple that are marginal and has potential to be good and 1 first line defenseman from the 3rd round on............6%
Bleach Clean
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I don't understand the opinion that seeks to diminish depth picks while at the same time advocating for more shots on the board. NHL assets are finite. As a result, it's an all or nothing approach. Either you gun for picks as a primary function or you are wasting your window to accrue futures.
That can seem black and white, and many have tried to live in the nuance of a grey area, but logically it should be the way. There aren't enough resources available to be lukewarm with the process.
There was a rumour that Boston's 3 1st rounders were offered for 2OA for Jack Eichel and Buffalo said no.
31 Thoughts: Could a stealth suitor emerge for Matt Duchene? - Sportsnet.ca
Some notes from Friedman's 31 Thoughts:
"15. Don’t think Toronto’s stopped looking at right-handed defensive options. Doubt Kyle Dubas went to Vancouver/Anaheim last week for the Honda Centre’s famous pizza with fire-roasted vegetables."
If Dubas was in Vancouver checking in on the Tanev situation, I'd love to see his face when Benning said "we want to make Tanev a Canuck for life."
"16. Wayne Simmonds may have to wait until the Duchene/Stone/Panarin situations settle. A mix of similar teams looking at both: Boston, Calgary, San Jose, maybe Pittsburgh and Vegas. New Jersey GM Ray Shero was aggressive with Brian Boyle, and it sounds like he’s done the same with Marcus Johansson. I’ve heard Columbus, Edmonton, San Jose and Vancouver as teams who have checked in. Possibly Washington, too, since they know him. The Canucks are the odd fit, but they looked at Andre Burakovsky, too. So maybe they are thinking about something for the future or are trying to replace the injured Sven Baertschi."
Marcus Johansson is a decent player, but does he not have an extensive concussion history?
Some notes from Friedman's 31 Thoughts:
"15. Don’t think Toronto’s stopped looking at right-handed defensive options. Doubt Kyle Dubas went to Vancouver/Anaheim last week for the Honda Centre’s famous pizza with fire-roasted vegetables."
If Dubas was in Vancouver checking in on the Tanev situation, I'd love to see his face when Benning said "we want to make Tanev a Canuck for life."
"16. Wayne Simmonds may have to wait until the Duchene/Stone/Panarin situations settle. A mix of similar teams looking at both: Boston, Calgary, San Jose, maybe Pittsburgh and Vegas. New Jersey GM Ray Shero was aggressive with Brian Boyle, and it sounds like he’s done the same with Marcus Johansson. I’ve heard Columbus, Edmonton, San Jose and Vancouver as teams who have checked in. Possibly Washington, too, since they know him. The Canucks are the odd fit, but they looked at Andre Burakovsky, too. So maybe they are thinking about something for the future or are trying to replace the injured Sven Baertschi."
Marcus Johansson is a decent player, but does he not have an extensive concussion history?
Fire Benning
diaper filled piss baby
For improving the defense, Nick Jensen could be a good cheaper target as a UFA.
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Hughes4Calder
Josepho
i want the bartkowski thread back
ginner classic
Dammit Jim!
Barzal, Boeser and Aho is a pretty good package
Now, I think it's unfair to cherry pick. Just take the 3 highest ranked players on the board: Barzal, Connor and Chabot
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