2019-20 Roster Thread XV: The thread with no name

[Rebels57]

If Provy holds out.

Sanheim - Niskanen
Ghost - Braun
Morin - Myers

I'm ready to roll with that group.

 

[FlyerNutter]

If Provy holds out.

Sanheim - Niskanen
Ghost - Braun
Morin - Myers

I'm ready to roll with that group.

There is a sick part of me that wouldn’t mind it.

A vacant spot is really the only way Morin will see any time and I can’t help but to still have some intrigue about him.

 

[Striiker]

If Provy holds out.

Sanheim - Niskanen
Ghost - Braun
Morin - Myers

I'm ready to roll with that group.

Yup, I'd rather have that for a while than rush into a Provorov contract. Let him sit an get antsy for a while.

And really, giving Sanheim and Ghost that much icetime could end up being a great thing.

 

[KrazyKat]

There is a sick part of me that wouldn’t mind it.

A vacant spot is really the only way Morin will see any time and I can’t help but to still have some intrigue about him.

True this is an important year for him. If he can manage to play well in the time he gets. He will replace Braun next year. If not i imagine he will be moved.

 

[KrazyKat]

Sad thing is though, i have a weird feeling you will see Hagg ahead of Morin. Dont shoot the messenger.

 

[SanBlom]

Sad thing is though, i have a weird feeling you will see Hagg ahead of Morin. Dont shoot the messenger.

Opened this because I saw your name and you let me down. Please make an obnoxious trade for us. This is not you!

P.S. Love you

 

[prototypical4thliner]

Yup, I'd rather have that for a while than rush into a Provorov contract. Let him sit an get antsy for a while.

And really, giving Sanheim and Ghost that much icetime could end up being a great thing.

Sanheim just reminds me of Duncan Keith. I don’t dare hope he ends up that way, but he is just silky smooth at everything he does.

Me being the masochist of a flyers fan that I am though...

Provorov holds out.

Sanheim rocks it and immediately shows how much more he is worth than his bridge and that he is a bonafide number one.

Flyers camp caves and give provorov long term 8x8 to be our second pair.

Sanheims next contract ends up being for 10 plus a year.

 

[Striiker]

Sanheim just reminds me of Duncan Keith. I don’t dare hope he ends up that way, but he is just silky smooth at everything he does.

Me being the masochist of a flyers fan that I am though...

Provorov holds out.

Sanheim rocks it and immediately shows how much more he is worth than his bridge and that he is a bonafide number one.

Flyers camp caves and give provorov long term 8x8 to be our second pair.

Sanheims next contract ends up being for 10 plus a year.

If anything, I’d assume that Sanheim going nuts would help us with the Provorov contract. Show him that we don’t desperately need him and can wait him out with Sanheim as the 1D.

 

[Curufinwe]

Just go full pessimist and predict that a meteor hits the Skate Zone during the first day of camp. Then anything better than that is a bonus.

 

[win88ice2004]

Provorov is a strange situation because there were reports he wanted a long term deal. I would imagine with how hard he works out over the summer to get ready for the season that he isn't to happy a deal isn't done yet. He also seems like a team guy, so I would guess he doesn't want to let his team down by not playing. I wonder if it is his agent that is driving the stall. Maybe Ivan will tell him he wants to play and do the deal already on the table.

 

[hatcher]

If he's playing above Ghost and Travis on the PP, that ain't good, Hatch.

So that's my point he's not that good if he can't do it all.

 

[Rebels57]

Provorov is a strange situation because there were reports he wanted a long term deal. I would imagine with how hard he works out over the summer to get ready for the season that he isn't to happy a deal isn't done yet. He also seems like a team guy, so I would guess he doesn't want to let his team down by not playing. I wonder if it is his agent that is driving the stall. Maybe Ivan will tell him he wants to play and do the deal already on the table.

I have no doubt it's his agent. He's one of the shrewdest in the business.

 

[Audible Velvet]

So that's my point he's not that good if he can't do it all.

I still think he’s a really good player and I’m glad we have him. I definitely don’t wanna see him get a huge contract. He doesn’t have to be great at everything, But he will still contribute to the team being successful

 

[win88ice2004]

I have no doubt it's his agent. He's one of the shrewdest in the business.

Interesting I did not know that...well that sucks.

 

[Striiker]

Watch out guys, our best reporter is on the case

 

[bauer]

If Provy holds out.

Sanheim - Niskanen
Ghost - Braun
Morin - Myers

I'm ready to roll with that group.

i actually prefer Sanheim on the top pair over Provy.

i think you might trigger a few people though putting Braun with Ghost.

 

[Starat327]

i actually prefer Sanheim on the top pair over Provy.

i think you might trigger a few people though putting Braun with Ghost.

If Justin Braun plays like the defensive juggernaut that this board makes him out to be, that would be a perfect fit. Braun would never have to touch the puck, either - even better.

 

[deadhead]

Actually, Braun would be a good match for Ghost for the same reason he'd be a good match for Sanheim, he doesn't need the puck.

When you have a puck dominant defenseman, it can be an awkward pairing with another offensive defenseman who may feel he's losing money if his partner hogs the puck (and scoring opportunities).

 

[bauer]

If Justin Braun plays like the defensive juggernaut that this board makes him out to be, that would be a perfect fit. Braun would never have to touch the puck, either - even better.

i'm gonna send you one of these. "MVP" is written on the back.

 

[Magua]

Everyone touches the puck. It's a gross oversimplification to pair a non-puck mover with a puck mover.

Ghost is our BEST transition defenseman. That's the distinction. He's also our best NZ defenseman. Braun is still respectable in that capacity. So, you might see more NZ break-ups, which Ghost needs. But Braun is also a dead zone offensively. If you get a cycle going, is that what you want?

I think that partnership helps Braun more than it helps Ghost. It might still be the ideal pairing. But it's doubtful to occur, so whatevs. And I'm unsure if Sanheim's weaker areas -- he's not especially good, let alone elite, at entry/exits for and against -- can overcome Braun's deficiencies. Not exactly a surprise that when a defender can't move the puck, finding a fit becomes hard.

 

[Striiker]

Of course it helps Braun more than Ghost.

In that hypothetical Ghost is, yet again, being saddled with a player who will hold him back. The only time he’s been put with someone who wasn’t a dud was when he was with Provorov, and we saw how perfectly that worked out. Then people bitch about his play.

Remember how dumb usage and poor linemates held back Couturier? Same thing with Ghost.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

If Justin Braun plays like the defensive juggernaut that this board makes him out to be, that would be a perfect fit. Braun would never have to touch the puck, either - even better.

#dreampair

 

[Qyburn]

If anything, I’d assume that Sanheim going nuts would help us with the Provorov contract. Show him that we don’t desperately need him and can wait him out with Sanheim as the 1D.

(in light of the fact that huge D $ almost always stems from huge D offense)

His agent HAS to realize he'll never be desperately or even moderately needed on this team to repeat his 17 g season as long as Ghost is here. PP2 is a no man's land here. Agents don't admit to much, but literally a 3rd grader would be able to see that as an intransmutable fact.

edit: maybe we should let him walk. If the comparison is "the next Lidstrom" as I'm now envisioning the turn these talks are taking, then the guy and the horse who's riding him can go screw.

 

[deadhead]

An offensive defenseman who has a partner who is experienced and covers his ass can play more aggressively, knowing his partner will be in position to slow down breakaways and give him time to get back.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I don’t really like Braun with Ghost. I’d rather Ghost get as many o-zone starts as possible, & it reduces Braun’s value to give him those o-zone starts & not help with more difficult starts.

Ghost-Myers seems perfect.

Myers has enough skill to capitalize on o-zone starts; he has the incredible range to help cover Ghost’s mistakes; but he’s still not a guy you want to trust in the hardest deployments yet.

Provorov-Niskanen seems like a logical first pair. That leaves Sanheim & Braun. Sanheim has reached the stage of taking on much tougher usage, & he struggled with it at times in the 2nd half; Braun should be perfect for helping him with that & for compensating for Sanheim’s sometimes lack of assertiveness around the net & on the wall.