Stizzle
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I don't mind Gardiner, but he is noted for catastrophic screw ups. He skates miles and miles and has improved on D.
I don't mind Gardiner, but he is noted for catastrophic screw ups. He skates miles and miles and has improved on D.
Yeah, I don't think Gardiner would improve this team. He's just more of what we already have.
Agreed, I don't hate him as much as a lot of Leaf fans, but I have no need to pay him what he's going to get.Gardiner is exactly what we don't need, an offense first LHD.
I put Nylander in the same boat Ehlers , they fly around all season touching no one but putting up some points then playoffs start and they disappear . If we are going after someone try going after somebody with playoffs in mind not just scoring stats in regular season .
I agree. The playoffs are at a different level and all the talent in the world means nothing if you don’t want the puck on your stick. Zero interest in Nylander.
I think so too. Kapanen is a perfect target. It would be great to have marner but it doesn’t make sense.We Offer Sheeting some Mofo's. Bet the bank on it. My guess is offer sheet to Kapanen.
Marner is coming off of his ELC at less than a million a year. He's going to get ten times that and there goes all of the Leafs cap space. Every organization in the league knows that they're in trouble. They're going to get bent over to shed contracts in order to fit out their roster. What the Leafs need in return for the players that they will move out is affordability more than top level talent in return. Trades like Nylander for Ghost or Kapanen for Gudas is about the best that they will be able to get and afford. The more talented player that they get back in the trades that they make, the more salary they will be taking on and can't afford. For Toronto, its going to be all about the money.
This. An offer sheet is going to hurt us more in assets than it’ll be worth. Go the trade route.The first decision is if the Flyers should be friend or foe.
Do you be the one with the offer sheet to Marner to break them? Or even offer sheet Kapanen or Johansson?
Or are you the friend to give them okay value for Kadri, Kapanen or Johnsson when they have to be moved because of Marner.
I would take that bet.We Offer Sheeting some Mofo's. Bet the bank on it. My guess is offer sheet to Kapanen.
If I was Fletcher, I'd lay back. Let the Leafs know that the Flyers are interesting in helping them out of the cap bind but allow another club to OS Marner first. Just a hunch but I think that the Islanders will do that as a bit of revenge plus Marner is worth it. Once Marner gets his OS, the Leafs will know how deep of a hole that they're in and what its going to take for them to get out of it.The first decision is if the Flyers should be friend or foe.
Do you be the one with the offer sheet to Marner to break them? Or even offer sheet Kapanen or Johansson?
Or are you the friend to give them okay value for Kadri, Kapanen or Johnsson when they have to be moved because of Marner.
The problem with Nylander is the Flyers lack grit in their forwards and experience in their defense.
Nylander doesn't help with either issue - if you add him you need to subtract one of Voracek, JR or TK or you'll be even softer up front.
Watching the playoffs this year, it's the teams with balance that excel, with both scorers and players who do the dirty work.
There are only a few two way players that excel over 200 feet, the trick is to fill out the rest of your forward lines with guys who aren't liabilities at either end, or at least not so many that they can't be sheltered and protected.
So your defensive checkers need some offensive skills, your scorers should have enough dedication to defense that they're not black holes, and you need some guys who'll do the dirty work, fight for pucks in the corners and go to the net and set screens.
This and the play of Stone in playoffs really makes me wish we stepped up and got Stone.
At the deadline? He wasn't going to a non-playoff team.
I would take that bet.
Konecny, Provy and Sanheim....all are RFA. We need to worry about getting our our guys signed. Funny how it's easy to think we will OS a guy, yet those same people don't talk about US getting OS.
Oh...and the last signed OS was 6 years ago I believe. I say signed, because I do believe team have approached agents about signing ones but some players have declined them. We just never hear about it.