2019-20 Roster Thread IV

[Adtar02]

Flyers gonna keep all this cap space for all our restricted free agents and then re-sign them all. Deadhead will still be saying we need to save it until the next round of RFA’s.

We will have 15 million in space for the rest of the franchises history! **** Panarin. **** Karlsson. Our own kids will become them one day!!!

**** Tavares because Patrick will be just as good (what a ****ing joke of a statement).

ROR wouldn’t have been worth the terrible asking price because he’s too expensive and needs PP1 time. Those 77 points wouldn’t have helped this team finish in the top 8 in the east.

You should really stop being dramatic with your hot ****ty takes and let go of the costs of the players. We have cap space and two players that are franchise players hitting UFA. You need to try and improve this team by any means. The cap isn’t a problem so we can improve it literally in anyway.

While I agree he would have help a ton this season. I doubt that ror would have had 77 points as he wouldn’t have been on the pp1. Also we probably still have hak and hex.

But ror is someone I wanted bad. Oh well.

 

[Psuhockey]

We have a guy in Sanheim who was more productive than what he’s shown to this point under the same **** circumstances & doesn’t even get near the same rope.

Hopefully that was just the prior regime. The most annoying thing about the Hextall/Hakstol era was the fact that players were assigned roles before they even got the NHL.

 

[deadhead]

You must be kidding or really wanting to start a conversation with a opinion you don't even believe in just because.

Watching Myers, he made numerous mistakes in positioning, looked tentative at times on offense, got turned around at times.
And the advanced metrics confirms it, he was a below replacement player.

Which means little in the long run, he was a rookie trying to adjust to the NHL in mid-season, on a franchise with a coach without a coherent system.

Don't know why admitting a prospect struggled is such a big deal.

 

[wankstifier]

Meltzer seems to think Gostisbehere might be traded.

 

[deadhead]

Signing FAs is a two way street, what if Panarin is headed to Fla, and Duchene wants the 8 year deal in CBJ?
Who else are you going to sign?

And I like Spurgeon, but I'm not spending #11 for one year and then give him a big extension.
Trouba will cost big money and isn't good enough to be worth big assets as well.
Don't think he's better than our top four, a couple years ahead of them (except Ghost) in experience but seems to have flat lined.

So I'm not going to panic if Fletcher makes a couple smaller moves instead of overpaying for good but not great players.

Smart teams target players who can help without costing so much you're just taking from Peter to pay Paul.
Dumb teams try and make a big splash and don't worry about the consequences.

 

[deadhead]

And for those who bring up ROR:

St Louis was almost certainly asked for Thomas, and they said no, and would have walked away.
Instead, they got ROR for Thompson, a 2019 1st and a 2020 2n.
They got Schenn and a salary dump for what they thought was #27 and probably #25 or so in 2018.
They signed Bozak and Perron last summer, not JT.
And traded Stastny for a 1st at the TDL, Reaves and a 2nd for Sundqvist and a 1st, and Shattenkirk for a 1st and Sanford in 2017.
So they were out zero 1st rd picks, got Schenn, ROR, Sanford and Sundqvist, and dumped a bunch of veteran salaries that paid for Bozak and Perron.

That's how you do "value trading."

 

[NYCFlyer]

Meltzer seems to think Gostisbehere might be traded.

I think Fletch will try and shake things up a little. If we trade for a top 4 Dman someone has to go. I would be really be surprised if they traded Provorov, Sanheim or Myers. Hagg, Amac and Morin don't have much value so that leaves Ghost and/or Gudas.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Meltzer seems to think Gostisbehere might be traded.

San Filippo has been talking up Konecny as a possible trade candidate in the last month or so fwiw.

 

[FlyerNutter]

San Filippo has been talking up Konecny as a possible trade candidate in the last month or so fwiw.

Untouchable in my eyes. Nothing rational, but I love TK.

 

[Magua]

San Filippo has been talking up Konecny as a possible trade candidate in the last month or so fwiw.

San Filippo needs to f*** off and go peddle more Hakstol puppet conspiracies.

 

[The Madrigal]

Trading Konecny is such a stupid idea that it's not even really worth discussing.

 

[wankstifier]

San Filippo has been talking up Konecny as a possible trade candidate in the last month or so fwiw.

Seems tacky when insiders speculate about trade possibilities. In Meltzer’s case, seems like he wants Gostisbehere to be moved.

 

[Stizzle]

Seems tacky when insiders speculate about trade possibilities. In Meltzer’s case, seems like he wants Gostisbehere to be moved.

Where is Myrtetus? For a while he was the king of inside scoopzzzz. So many sourcezzzz. When his hit rate couldn't rise above zero after so many scoopzzzz he disappeared.

It's still a fact @FLYguy3911 has broken more trades than any beat writer in many years. 2 for 2. No BS.

 

[kudymen]

I wouldn't understand trading Ghost after a down year with low value, but hey I dont know what return are we talking.

And I've been over this discussion 1000 times this year already

 

[AdamParrot]

Trading Konecny is such a stupid idea that it's not even really worth discussing.

But he deserves it. He deserves better organization.

 

[AdamParrot]

I'd rather have Ghost (with his contract) over Trouba all day.

 

[The Madrigal]

I'd rather have Ghost (with his contract) over Trouba all day.

 

[sa cyred]

TK is one of those guys you should be keeping as a young guy who could potentially explode in the next year or two. No idea why we would be trading him.

 

[Larry44]

TK is one of those guys you should be keeping as a young guy who could potentially explode in the next year or two. No idea why we would be trading him.

They won't be, even Chuckles isn't that stupid.

 

[LionHockey]

They won't be, even Chuckles isn't that stupid.

I have bad news for you.......

 

[Tripod]

I have bad news for you.......

Care to give an example?

Instead, he actually did the opposite and grabbed Nino for Clutterbuck.

 

[deadhead]

I would trade Voracek over TK in a heartbeat if I'm moving out a defensively challenged RW.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

They won't be, even Chuckles isn't that stupid.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

I'd rather have Ghost (with his contract) over Trouba all day.

How about both?

 

[deadhead]

So who do you exile to the third pair?

Trouba doesn't look like a value acquisition, we don't need another offensive defensemen, we'd be better with a defenseman like Spurgeon, given we already have Provorov, Ghost, Sanheim and Myers.

It's not like Trouba will be free, significant assets PLUS a big extension.
I don't see the value on the margin for this team.