2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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  1. Mrb1p

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    Hayton will be a C at the next level... at least thats what i believe.... he spent the season on the wing afterall...
     
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    We NEED Jesperi Kotkaniemi.
     
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    Id take Kotkaniemi alone over Zadina and Dellandrea.

    Okay maybe thats pushing it.
     
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    If he ends up a Mikko Koivu kind of player and Zadina goes on to become an elite 1st liner winger, do we still NEED Kotkaniemi?

    Go BPA, if that happens to be Kotkaniemi, then great.
     
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    What team doesnt need a blue chip prospect?
     
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    **** mikko koivu has been a 1A for more than ten years in the NHL, id say hes worth more than Pacioretty.
     
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    I wouldn't say Pacioretty is elite either.
     
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    I see Dellandrea much closer to Kotkaniemi than Berggren is close to Zadina. Here's my ranking of all 4:

    Zadina
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    Kotkaniemi
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    Dellandrea
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    Berggren
     
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    Cause the Habs have been a model franchise when it comes to sound decision-making?

    I understand the Sens are at a whole other level on account of their off ice issues. But the Habs have no lessons to give to anyone, so I'm not exactly inclined to call the Sens "stupid" when our own management has been beyond brutal.
     
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    I feel like all we ever talk about are the limits to Jesperi's upside. What about Zadina's? Sky's the limit? Rich man's ovechkin?
     
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    Only because I feel some people are thinking about drafting for need, which I consider to be a slippery slope.

    As I said, if our scouts feel Kotka is the BPA, great. If he isn't, don't reach because he's a center is all I'm saying.
     
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    Yeah I see it the other way around. Berggren is much better than Dellandrea, and I like Ty. He just doesn't have the toolkit or box that Barry does, and I'm not calling Ty stupid or unskilled.
     
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    Is the 2nd best ES goalscorer for 3 years straight really not elite?
     
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    Based on how he plays there's really nothing elite about his game aside from his wrister release, so I'm gonna go ahead and say no. He's not elite and never was.
     
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    A top end ES goal scorer who plays 2 ways and kills penalties is definitely elite.
     
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    “Noah Dobson, COME ON DOWN. You’re the next contestant on “This Team Sucks”
     
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    You have high standards then. I mean, hes produced at a similar clip to Tarasenko, Marchand, Toews, Bergeron, Wheeler, Voracek, etc. And thats including his putrid season he just had. Either a) were too hard on hin. B) hes really not elite.

    Anyhow, I dont really see Zadina ever topping that, value wise. So the point stands.
     
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    by default, just like DD used to be our first line center for years despite the fact he is and has always been a borderline AHLer... In reality Koivu is a great 2-way 2nd line center, not a first one.
     
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    Hes a 1B type. People proclaim Bergeron the 2nd or 3rd best C in the NHL then go on about guys like Koivu and Plekanec being "good 2nd line Cs".
     
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    Nothing of Zadina's is elite aside from his shot
     
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    Said it before, but I would trade McCarron for late round picks. Ideally Detroit's 2 6ths.
     
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    So he’s Pierre Dagenais. Maybe we can ask Mikey Ribs to come back.
     
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    Dellandrea or O'Brien? And why?
     
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    Hands??? Compete??? IQ???
     
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    What I think is happening is that Zadina excelled in a league people are familiar with, while Kotkaniemi was good in a league they're unfamiliar with. There's just no frame of reference. It's easy to see 44 goals and think Nathan MacKinnon, and easy to forget Timo Meier. Whereas the only frame of reference they have for 30 points in Liiga is Artturi Lehkonen.
     
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