2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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  1. Meat Wave

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    As some of you may know, every year Mise-O-Jeu offers prop bets for the NHL draft.

    Generally they have more than that (maybe some will be added as we get closer to June 22). But for now here's what they're offering:

    1. Who will be Montreal's pick?
    Zadina pays 1,90
    Kotkaniemi 4,50
    Tkachuk 4,50
    Hughes 5,00
    Boqvist 25,00
    Wahlstrom 25,00
    Other player 6,00

    2. Who will be drafted first?
    Hughes 2,35
    Tkachuk 1,40

    3. Who will be drafted first?
    Boqvist 2,50
    Wahlstrom 1,35

    4. Who will be drafted first?
    Bouchard 1,65
    Dobson 1,85

    5. Who will be drafted first?
    Hayton 1,40
    Farabee 2,35

    6. When will Kotkaniemi be drafted?
    Before 8,5 = 1,50
    After 8,5 = 2,10

    7. When will Veleno be drafted?
    Before 12,5 = 2,50
    After 12,5 = 1,35

    8. When will Smith be drafted?
    Before 13,5 = 1,95
    After 13,5 = 1,60
     
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    I’ll put some money on Dobson being drafted before Bouchard
     
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    I like this one. Also I might do a 'Wahlstrom before Boqvist' + 'Veleno after 12,5" combo even though it doesn't pay a lot.
     
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    There is also Kravtsov 2.5 vs Kupari 1,35

    I took 2 tickets with the only change on both tickets the first prop. as I took Kotkaniemi on the first and other player as the second (Dobson)

    I also have Kovalchuk ending with L.A. 7.0 in the free agent section on both tickets, it gives me about 3000$ with a bet of 10$
     
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    I have put a lot of money on Kravtsov x2.5 over Kupari, that bet was way too good, some on Farabee and Dobson as well in different combinations. I also added some trophy winners like Gallant winning the Jack Adams for small extra pay off.

    I also betted some money a few days ago when Veleno was x1.6 if drafted after 11.5 with other combinations. They changed that bet since, Dobson was x2.2 at that time too.
     
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    We can make some good money on these odds, given the level of insightful analysis here.

    So your top bets would be:

    Kravtsov over Kupari
    Dobson over Bouchard

    Who else?

    We have to move on this before they change it again. Srew vCash, this is the real deal. Let's make some dough.
     
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    Those are the best ones. Wahlstrom x1.45 over Boqvist seems decent with Boqvist dropping recently due to the concussions issues. Farabee offers nice pay off at x2.1 over Hayton. Then, you can add trophy winners for some extra multipliers. I mainly like to add Gallant/Barzal(x1.02 each, low pay off, but pretty much guaranteed) and Rinne(x1.21 is interesting here). Boyle and Hedman are interesting options as well. A bit on the riskier side but higher pay off (and still high likelihood) are Mackinnon for the Hart and Kopitar for the Selke.

    Kravtsov is a very good deal right now imo. It already dropped a bit, but still very high.
     
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    Man, I love Zadina. But I really really like kotkaniemi too. I think they are neck and neck tbh and I wouldn’t be disappointed one bit of we took the fin. He’s big skilled, can play centre and has a great shot. Skating is a tad awkward but he fights for position and he knows where to be to get a good chance. Hoping by some miracle we can acquire another top ten pick and get Jesper and Zadina.
     
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    The worst part about passing on Zadina would be Ottawa getting their hands on him.
     
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    Why does some of these don't work ? Let's say I take Mackinnon for Hart then I can't take Kopitar for Selke...
     
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    That's a peculiar one because Kopitar is nominated in both those categories, it isn't that big of a deal, but they decided to go that route.
     
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    Farabee looks like the best bet there
     
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    Anyone understand why Denisenko was snubbed by the national team ? Makes no sense to me.
     
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    O'Brien played some games with the USA U-18 team this year against NCAA teams and did well in limited ice time. Lots of NHL scouts saw those games. Also at the US Nationals in April there's was a ton of scouts that went there to see him.
     
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    Hoooooly ****, that's an enormous payoff for no reason whatsoever.
     
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    If the Sens were smart they'd give this years pick to the Avs seeing the tire fire that will be the 2019 season or figure out a way to get next years backs that will be looking like Hughes

    The more I see the debate between Kotka & Zadina the more I think we will pick Dobson just to do the unexpected
     
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    Smith before 13 is an easy one. No chance he goes past the Isles.
     
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    Seems like the logic ''take Zadina, and try to get a center later'' really hasn't been challenged around here. As in, the idea that you could just take Kotkaniemi and try to get a winger later hasn't even been advanced. And that is completely bonkers to me considering how undervalued some wingers are in this draft: first among them being Jonatan Berggren. Barry is clearly ahead of all the centers being advanced as options for our 2nd round pick, and in my opinion it's not particularly close. He's in my final top 15. Moreover, it appears that he'll be extremely underrated on Bob's final list and actually available for our 2nds.

    So what would you rather have:

    Zadina + Dellandrea
    Kotkaniemi + Berggren

    In my mind, Kotkaniemi and Zadina are of the same quality as prospects, only one is potentially much more valuable due to both his position, and his style of play. I don't see 40 goals for Filip. He's a 30-30 guy, IMO, and that's just not out of range for Kotkaniemi. Moreover, Kotkaniemi is a more dominating presence on the ice and is more of a multifaceted offensive threat.

    Kotkaniemi + Berggren for me.
     
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    I've started typing replies that agree and disagree with you so it's a really tough choice

    I think the floor of Zadina + Dellandrea is higher but the ceiling of Kotkaniemi + Berggren is higher

    How about we split the difference and take Kotkaniemi + Dellandrea :naughty:

    Covers our C bases in the off chance Kotka ends up a winger, regardless I long for the day where we have so much C depth we need to move someone to the wing, and not like when we were catering for Lil Davey
     
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    Lol @ bolded.

    I certainly wouldn't complain if we ended up with TD and JK.
     
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    Cartwheels for that + it's not the end of the world if we re-signed Pacioretty, is it?
    Take away the Captaincy of course but you're probably looking at maybe a 10 pt yearly difference in what Max puts out vs any winger we draft this year over the next 6 years, there's a 20-30 pt gap if these Cs hit their ceiling over anything else we have
     
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    What good is Patches gonna be in 3-4 years when any of these guys start to become legit NHL players?
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer he left this offseason especially if we are rebuilding and can get a potential Top 4 LHD or Top 6 C in return but if we can't I'd rather re-sign him and pass over a comparable winger in this years draft to select a C or D than to let him walk and we are still looking for Cs & Ds.

    Buys us a few years so our new GM can draft/trade/sign someone to replace him
     
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    And then you have to consider the value of those 3 or 4 years. Like, what are we doin' here? Okay, we get patches extended for 3-4 years at a reasonable price: where does that get us? WHY?
     
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