2018 Free Agent and Trade Discussion Thread: The Dogs Days are over

[IBeL34f]

I personally include Andreas Johnsson in there beside Kadri

And add Marleau, and Kapanen...

 

[hockeynorth]

And add Marleau, and Kapanen...

Can’t forget first liner Zach Hyman, or 20 goal Connor Brown

 

[Albert Iafrate]

If Ennis and Matthews click and you run with a Ennis - Matthews - Nylander line, would you consider this trade? For that matter, would San Jose?

To San Jose:
Marleau (2.5M retained)
Holl

To Toronto:
Braun

A Gardiner - Braun pairing would be deadly.

 

[LeafChief]

If Ennis and Matthews click and you run with a Ennis - Matthews - Nylander line, would you consider this trade? For that matter, would San Jose?

To San Jose:
Marleau (2.5M retained)
Holl

To Toronto:
Braun

A Gardiner - Braun pairing would be deadly.

No.

 

[Boutette]

If Ennis and Matthews click and you run with a Ennis - Matthews - Nylander line, would you consider this trade? For that matter, would San Jose?

To San Jose:
Marleau (2.5M retained)
Holl

To Toronto:
Braun

A Gardiner - Braun pairing would be deadly.

Ennis is maybe half the player Hyman is right now. Doubt even Matthews could revive his career. Marleau wouldn't be going back to SJ until after July 1st anyway. SJ might be willing to trade Braun for him though, considering they have 3 #1 defencemen now, and who knows what will happen with their current 35+ UFAs.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I think we can rule out a Marleau return to San Jose since they'll be trying to re-sign Karlsson.

You're looking more at a team like Arizona. Bolland and Smith's buy out come off their books after this year.

 

[Kiwi]

I think we can rule out a Marleau return to San Jose since they'll be trying to re-sign Karlsson.

You're looking more at a team like Arizona. Bolland and Smith's buy out come off their books after this year.

Is Marleau going to agree to be sent to hockey Siberia in the desert?

 

[WTFMAN99]

Is Marleau going to agree to be sent to hockey Siberia in the desert?

I have no idea. I don't know what they agreed to at the beginning of the contract, they certainly set it up a bit like Martin's deal. We pay a lot up front and in signing bonuses. Would any of us be *shocked* if we paid the signing bonus July 1st and Marleau's 6.25M cap hit and 1.5M salary found themselves elsewhere? Or if Marleau developed an allergy to his hair or hockey equipment?

 

[Walshy7]

I think we can rule out a Marleau return to San Jose since they'll be trying to re-sign Karlsson.

You're looking more at a team like Arizona. Bolland and Smith's buy out come off their books after this year.

which is unfair to marleau, if he is not traded to San Jose I doubt he is traded we cant sign a marquee free agent (in his year he was up there) and then ship them out later it sends the totally wrong message. He also has a full NMC too

edit: unless he wants to go to a shithouse cap floor team, but I doubt it

 

[Cor]

I have no idea. I don't know what they agreed to at the beginning of the contract, they certainly set it up a bit like Martin's deal. We pay a lot up front and in signing bonuses. Would any of us be *shocked* if we paid the signing bonus July 1st and Marleau's 6.25M cap hit and 1.5M salary found themselves elsewhere? Or if Marleau developed an allergy to his hair or hockey equipment?

Marleau is an ironman. He’s in ridiculous shape. He sits in ice baths between periods because he likes it. I don’t think an injury/allergy angle wouldn’t work unless it was 100% legitimate.

In terms of a trade, San Jose is pretty much the only option, and they wouldn’t have the cap space if Karlsson stays around.

Marleau won’t be the solution to adding more cap flexibility. Ron Hainsey is gone, so that will be 3M, and I think, depending on the season Zaitsev has, we could potentially see him moved.

 

[Trapper]

Marleau is an ironman. He’s in ridiculous shape. He sits in ice baths between periods because he likes it. I don’t think an injury/allergy angle wouldn’t work unless it was 100% legitimate.

In terms of a trade, San Jose is pretty much the only option, and they wouldn’t have the cap space if Karlsson stays around.

Marleau won’t be the solution to adding more cap flexibility. Ron Hainsey is gone, so that will be 3M, and I think, depending on the season Zaitsev has, we could potentially see him moved.

Gardiner and Hainsey are both UFAs. I don't want to lose Gardiner for nothing so I hope it's dealt with.
I'd rather keep Gardiner on a decent deal.
Zaitsev has to prove which guy we are getting. It's best 2 out of 3 time. If he falters, lose the money to retain Gardiner and find another solution.

 

[Liminality]

Marleau is an ironman. He’s in ridiculous shape. He sits in ice baths between periods because he likes it. I don’t think an injury/allergy angle wouldn’t work unless it was 100% legitimate.

In terms of a trade, San Jose is pretty much the only option, and they wouldn’t have the cap space if Karlsson stays around.

Marleau won’t be the solution to adding more cap flexibility. Ron Hainsey is gone, so that will be 3M, and I think, depending on the season Zaitsev has, we could potentially see him moved.

I think Marleau has been a great mentor for the guys, I personally wouldn't trade Marleau but in the worst case scenario that we need to I'd be fine with it. Gardiner and Hainsey expire. We can reshape the defense with that cap and from internal upgrades.

It's pretty much just next years crunch, we get past that and our roster is set with the young core and just finding cheaper players to fill the holes.

 

[BlueForever75]

People are hilarious. Marleau goes no where until his contract is up. He's not done anything against what we have expected this far, and would look very bad on Leafs management to lure someone like Marleau only to dump him mid way through his contract. He's producing and going no where.

 

[ToneDog]

People are hilarious. Marleau goes no where until his contract is up. He's not done anything against what we have expected this far, and would look very bad on Leafs management to lure someone like Marleau only to dump him mid way through his contract. He's producing and going no where.

Leafs gave him an extra year at 6.25M to move and he is paid most of his salary next July 1st . It is a business and I'll bet Marleau would hold no ill will against the Leafs if they moved the third year of his deal. Heck he might even retire July 2nd after he is paid his bonus on July 1st.

 

[Boutette]

People are hilarious. Marleau goes no where until his contract is up. He's not done anything against what we have expected this far, and would look very bad on Leafs management to lure someone like Marleau only to dump him mid way through his contract. He's producing and going no where.

Yes, its horrific to pay a 40+ point 38 year old winger a $19 million retirement contract that he only actually has to play 2 seasons to earn. Absolutely freaking discraceful! No veteran in his right mind would touch this team with a ten foot pole if Marleau agrees to be traded next summer.

Oh, and I can imagine the anger expressed at him from his wife and kids when they are told they will get to go back home a year early. Horrible.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Leafs gave him an extra year at 6.25M to move and he is paid most of his salary next July 1st . It is a business and I'll bet Marleau would hold no ill will against the Leafs if they moved the third year of his deal. Heck he might even retire July 2nd after he is paid his bonus on July 1st.

We'd still have to take his cap hit. Which is the whole purpose of moving him. I doubt he's useless after next year so you might as well just keep him then.

 

[Jozay]

Leafs gave him an extra year at 6.25M to move and he is paid most of his salary next July 1st . It is a business and I'll bet Marleau would hold no ill will against the Leafs if they moved the third year of his deal. Heck he might even retire July 2nd after he is paid his bonus on July 1st.

He's got a full NMC. If he wants to stay, and I dont see why he wouldnt, then he's going to stay.

 

[LeafChief]

We're talking about having to 'get rid' of Marleau like he didn't score 27 goals last year and look to STILL be in fantastic shape.

I'm expecting another 25 this year and maybe more if he sticks with Matthews.

 

[Warden of the North]

Marleaus playing for the Leafs next year folks.

Its kinda funny that people talk about him likes hes a bad player or something.

 

[Boutette]

Marleaus playing for the Leafs next year folks.

Its kinda funny that people talk about him likes hes a bad player or something.

He's not a bad player. He is however an expensive luxury that will be leaving anyways.

 

[Warden of the North]

He's not a bad player. He is however an expensive luxury that will be leaving anyways.

He has a NMC, why would he waive it to go to a crappy team like Arizona?

 

[Cor]

He has a NMC, why would he waive it to go to a crappy team like Arizona?

For the greater good?

 

[Boutette]

He has a NMC, why would he waive it to go to a crappy team like Arizona?

Hey, how do you think Orpik is enjoying playing for Colorado?

 

[Warden of the North]

Hey, how do you think Orpik is enjoying playing for Colorado?

Marleau cant be bought out

 

[Boutette]

Marleau cant be bought out

Here's another question. How is Brassard enjoying playing for Las Vegas?