Speculation: 2018-2019 Trade Deadline

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  1. Leonardo87

    Leonardo87 NY Rangers and Anaheim Ducks fan, and Pizza fan. Sponsor

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    It’s a 3rd round pick or a prospect. Rangers already own the 1st or 2nd. Would gurantee them a 1st. It’s not really overpayment plus would be sending an asset back so Tampa does not go empty handed.
     
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    Cally needs to be cleared but he does still have some value as playoff insurance this year. If Cally goes another vet needs to be added.
     
  3. Leonardo87

    Leonardo87 NY Rangers and Anaheim Ducks fan, and Pizza fan. Sponsor

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    So have to hope someone gets hurt for him to get back into the line up for the playoffs?
     
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    Or maybe he just replaces someone who’s not performing if needed.

    If he wants out the Lightning should try to accommodate but it won’t be easy
     
  5. Leonardo87

    Leonardo87 NY Rangers and Anaheim Ducks fan, and Pizza fan. Sponsor

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    Well in the last 10 or so games he’s been outproducing most of the bottom 6. As
    Much as I want him to play would never
    Hope for a player to get hurt.

    It’s not that hard to move him. Retain salary and he’ll be gone. If you are concerned about the cap hit and want to avoid a buy out with dead cap. Add a sweetener.
     
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    Worth it
     
  7. Todd1a

    Todd1a Kucherov or prospect

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    No it’s not should not cost that much
     
  8. Leonardo87

    Leonardo87 NY Rangers and Anaheim Ducks fan, and Pizza fan. Sponsor

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    You want to get rid of Callahan, it’s better than having close to 3 million of dead cap via buy out.
     
  9. Still All In

    Still All In Plz stop pucks

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    Its a matter of being reasonable or feasible. That is a lot of moving parts.
     
  10. Todd1a

    Todd1a Kucherov or prospect

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    Nope I’d rather keep the whole Callahan money next year trade miller or gourde get some prospects or draft picks and let Callahan’s contract run out
     
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    Some costly mistakes which have lead to goals from the D tonight. Do we upgrade before the deadline or do we need to target other positions?!
     
  12. HoseEmDown

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    I think we should but not sure any contender has the cap space to take on a 7.88M contract this time of the year .
     
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    I’m watching the games. He’s terrible. He gets owned every time he goes into a corner, he can’t clear the net, he can’t make a breakout pass to save his life, and his offensive skills essentially amount to taking one step inside the other team’s blue line and throwing a weak wrister on net. I don’t know who you’re watching, but he hasn’t shown the skills to do anything at the NHL level.
    Who does he have to play with? Chabot? Like, he played with Methot and they were terrible. He played with Phaneuf, and they were terrible. He played with Wiercioch, and they were terrible. But it’s worse – all of those players were better when they didn’t have to play with him. He’s a freaking anchor.
    When he played with Phaneuf he covered for Ceci’s weak play every game. He’s slow, but at least he knows it and has adapted. Phaneuf is a bastard to play against, knows how to get pucks out of the corner, can make a first pass, can clear the front of the net, and contributes in the offensive zone. He was – by far – Ottawas second best d-man when Ceci played with him. It wasn’t even close.
    Was Ceci rushed into the league and thereby irredeemably damaged? yeah, I’m not sure I buy that. That might have accounted for a sophomore slump but for God’s sake, he’s playing the same game he’s been playing all his life; if he doesn’t know how to clear the zone by now then he’s never going to. I’m not quite ready to give him the Jared Cowan ticket to ride just but MAYBE with the right coaching ybecause I think he could very well flourish as a 3rd pairing, power-play specialist. Take away all that defensive responsibility and pressure and let him focus on getting shots through to the net and possibly he could find a spot but to keep him as a top 4 D is questionable. I respect your opinion and this is mine
     
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    I’m watching the games. He’s terrible. He gets owned every time he goes into a corner,
     
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    I’m watching the games. He’s terrible
     
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    I'm watching the games. He's terrible
     
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    I have said this for weeks, but if we go for anything, it will be depth scoring. A big forward who can put the puck in the net every so often, keep up with this team and drop the gloves here and there. (A Boyle-light who can skate much better.) This has been our achilles heel in later playoff rounds. A top six of Hedman, McD, Cernak, Strals, Serg, and Coburn, with Girardi as the next man up is about as good as it gets. Yes, last night Girardi was putrid. Not only did he get his pocket picked, yet he also failed to obstruct (or even try to) Crosby's pass to the wide open man in the slot. It was an utterly poor effort and devoid of any semblance of awareness. The coaching staff, however, continues to make the right choices. So I am confident that we will see Girardi in the press box in the playoffs save future injuries. We therefore are fine on the back end.

    Regarding some of the other discussion in here, I think it is best to keep Cally as an insurance policy. Putting his relative value to his contract to the side, he hasn't been THAT bad. And my thoughts assume we are not able to send him elsewhere without some level of egregious retention. If another team is willing to fully take on his contract, then, of course, the insurance is no longer worth the price of future flexibility. But I don't believe a team will be willing to trade for him and take on his contract. So, alas, he is decent playoff insurance. If someone goes down, he can still skate decently, apply pressure on the forecheck and can kill penalties.
     
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  18. Stammertime91

    Stammertime91 Keep on keepin' on!

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    I'm watching the terrible. He's games.
     
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    It shouldn't. Still worth it, we are in our window now, our core will never be better than it is at this point. Anything we can add, or tweak, or improve, despite the future cost, should be done.

    This is mitigated by our extremely young and talented core and deep organizational roster. Cap space is more important than all non-essential prospects.
     
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    well in past years moves at trade deadline as hose showed do not win cups.... im not sure on simmonds what can bring and as said do not see us going after ceci with imho karlsson on way next year so not looking for a righty even though coby and girardi can be anchors and get hemmed in more then to my liking.... i think a lot of people see differently with simmonds then me I just can look at stats and not really impressed also he would be needing to take callys spot ..... cally has 4 turnovers and 20 takeaways so at least hes working playing smart... simmonds avg lifetime is higher then any year of callahan for PIM and the scary part is he does this penalty nonsense without fighting so what the hell makes him take so many penalties??? we get pissed at killorn .... you all calling for him or those who are calling for simmonds as the savior to bring home the cup here twitter and facebook? HIS PIM's double DOUBLE any single year of killorns... DOUBLE so ya enough said im for a kevin hayes or even ferland .... if have to and move cally simmonds for a third id be ok with but ive crunched the numbers I dont think he helps us and I DO NOT WANT HIM TAKING minutes for joseph for damned sure and do not think personally miller cannot equal his production if he stays on first power play instead of palat. So what is the savior going to bring us?
     
  21. Still All In

    Still All In Plz stop pucks

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    My defense of him... outside of Hedman, exactly how many defenders thrived under Guy Boucher?
     
  22. Todd1a

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    Alec Martinez to upgrade Coburn is target him
     
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    True, I will give you that and we know he can't take credit for Karlsson, maybe a little for Chabot on keeping him in the AHL and not rushing him up.
     
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    Mike Lundin? That's all I got
     
  25. Flat Ronnie

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    Say what?
     
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