The Kingslayer
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Karlsson?Niedermayer is the 3rd best defenseman I’ve ever seen play the game after Lidstrom and Karlsson. That might be shooting high for Makar lol.
Top 3:
Bourque
Lidstrom
Niedermeyer
Karlsson?Niedermayer is the 3rd best defenseman I’ve ever seen play the game after Lidstrom and Karlsson. That might be shooting high for Makar lol.
I was 9 when Bourque played his last game. I couldn’t truly assess the talent of a hockey player at that ageKarlsson?
Top 3:
Bourque
Lidstrom
Niedermeyer
I thought you were 40.I was 9 when Bourque played his last game. I couldn’t truly assess the talent of a hockey player at that age
My wisdom causes people to think that.I thought you were 40.
Uh oh. Hopefully he's okay.
Makar is strong on his skates!
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Agreed. Thats what I see aswell. Both guys have a certain kind of swagger. Mackinnon did when he entered the league less so now.Every time I see Makar play he looks like MacKinnon as a defenseman to me.
The same powerful skating stride, the same power game with his shoulder checks and feistiness, the same highly competitive nature, the same quick release with the ability to pick corners. Very similar in his dynamic ability and style.
Defenseman just don't look that good with the puck either, even the really good ones. He's gonna be pretty special.
Nah, he’s small and soft.Every time I see Makar play he looks like MacKinnon as a defenseman to me.
The same powerful skating stride, the same power game with his feistiness and shoulder checks, the same highly competitive nature, the same ability to dominate games, the same quick release with the ability to pick corners. Very similar in his dynamic ability and style.
Defenseman just don't look that good with the puck either, even the really good ones. He's gonna be pretty special.
Karlsson?
Top 3:
Bourque
Lidstrom
Niedermeyer
Scott Niedermayer is the most overrated defenseman to ever play the game. He always played behind elite talent like Stevens and Pronger and people get this romanticized picture of him from his days with the Ducks, completely disregarding that he wasn't that good on the Devils and hasn't fully blossomed until way back in his career. So I hope those comparing Makar to him don't lose their heads if Makar plays like a #3 for the first few years in the NHL, given that Niedermayer hasn't really developed into a top pairing D until his 23-year-old season.
As for where I would rank him among the players I saw play, he is comfortably behind:
Stevens, Bourque, Pronger, Keith, Chelios, McInnis, Leetch, Lidas, Fetisov, Coffey, Chara, EK.
I mean Lidstrom didn't really take off until he was like 24, 25. Same with Keith, Chara, but you give them more leeway than Niedermayer.Scott Niedermayer is the most overrated defenseman to ever play the game. He always played behind elite talent like Stevens and Pronger and people get this romanticized picture of him from his days with the Ducks, completely disregarding that he wasn't that good on the Devils and hasn't fully blossomed until way back in his career. So I hope those comparing Makar to him don't lose their heads if Makar plays like a #3 for the first few years in the NHL, given that Niedermayer hasn't really developed into a top pairing D until his 23-year-old season.
As for where I would rank him among the players I saw play, he is comfortably behind:
Stevens, Bourque, Pronger, Keith, Chelios, McInnis, Leetch, Lidas, Fetisov, Coffey, Chara, EK.
I mean Lidstrom didn't really take off until he was like 24, 25. Same with Keith, Chara, but you give them more leeway than Niedermayer.
He's not up there with Lidstrom or Bourque, he's not that good. But watching him was a pleasure. Dude could move around effortlessly. It didn't even look like he was trying to skate and he would blow by guys.
Call me crazy, but Leetch is probably the most underrated elite defensemen of all time. Such an incredible player that seems to be lost amongst the groups.
As for best I've ever seen... nobody holds a candle to Lidstrom or Bourque in recent generations. It is those two then everybody else.