Post-Game Talk: 19 games left

[Soundwave]

This team needs to have a ton of new faces and a coach that can also prop up mentally fragile players.

This team is honestly probably 2-3 years away from where the Leafs are now. And that's assuming the next GM is actually good.

Sad that they pulled that far ahead of our rebuild, but hey make stupid trades, win stupid prizes.

 

[rjayd2]

Larsson has been terrible ever since his father passed away. Maybe it’s still bothering him, I don’t know. He was exceptionally bad when Klefbom was hurt. He’s a second pairing defenseman at best miscast as a top pairing defenseman. The Leafs abused him tonight. His strengths are supposed to be defense but he doesn’t even do that well.

That really does coincide when his play started to get erratic — he was a rock for us the first year and maybe I have a bit of conformation bias with him myself, but I feel like he can still get back to that player and he’s highly effective when he is. He’s human though and would completely understand that would mess with him so I’m rooting him no matter what and hoping he can get his game back to the level it was.

“Second pairing” in context of comparing to the best defences in the league but he’s first pairing on this team. He actually does normally defend really well but his game is far more mistake prone then it used to be. “Seen ‘em bad” can be converted so easily to the opposite if you focus on the good things a player does too.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

This team is honestly probably 2-3 years away from where the Leafs are now. And that's assuming the next GM is actually good.

Sad that they pulled that far ahead of our rebuild, but hey make stupid trades, win stupid prizes.

IMO this draft will have a lot to do with the speed of our turn around. Draft an impact player and things turn around quicker. Don't? Then fml.

 

[TheSpecialist]

As much I feel for Connor ... as an owner I'd tell him to go pound sand. You signed an 8 year contract, you're not going anywhere for a minimum of 3 years.

He's not the only great player to suffer in the early portion of his career. Mario Lemieux did not make the playoffs for like the first 5 years of his career, Steve Yzerman played on several bad teams early on, Jarome Iginla missed the playoffs at one point for 7 straight years. If the Avs miss the playoffs again, Nathan MacKinnon is 6 years into his career and hasn't played in the 2nd round once and makes half the salary McDavid does.

I honor zero trade request, if he wants to stay at home and miss out on $12.5 million he can do that and the Oilers can go collect another no.1 overall but he's going nowhere for a long time.

I doubt that's coming from Connor's camp because he has more character than that.

Point of the matter is that the OBC being involved in Hockey ops needs to end! Enough is enough already and those idiots who are still around need to be held accountable to the point that everyone knows they are what's really wrong with the organization..

 

[ZJuice]

So, I leave my office, the elevator immediately gets stuck for 45 minutes, and the entire time I need to use the washroom. Decide that it's probably best to not use an elevator to get back up to my floor in my building as I'm about to **** my pants. Everything kind of settles down, so I go to the train to take it the few stops back to my place as I'm sure I can hold it.

Anddd, yep, the train breaks down in the middle of stops and I'm unable to get off to handle my business. That takes about 25 minutes to sort out, and by the time I get off at my destination, I'm basically holding my ass cheeks together to make it home. Takes about 10 minutes to get home, and it's a struggle the whole way. I get home, drop my keys several times in the panic but finally get into my apartment to find my girlfriend, who has told me that our toilet is broken. I decide the best bet is to use the sink, cause I just have to go. It happens, not happy about it but it happens. I decide to turn on the light to see the damage, but accidentally hit the garb-orator switch that's beside it and it shoots out everywhere, in my mouth, eyes, on the floor, and stove - everywhere.

Anyways, none of this actually happened. It just sounds like a vacation compared to watching the Oilers play anymore.

I believed you up until the girlfriend part, then the garb-orator part confirmed it.

 

[rjayd2]

IMO this draft will have a lot to do with the speed of our turn around. Draft an impact player and things turn around quicker. Don't? Then fml.

Can’t wait to see who’ll be the next Alex Debrincat that falls in our laps and totally gets passed up.

 

[Shizuka]

I'm pretty sure there's a few OBC shills in here, like that Space dude who was posting in the GDT. Seemed a little sensitive about my post.

Anyways, whomever we end up drafting is not bloody likely to help until at least draft year +2. That means you have to rely on whatever sycophant they dig up from underneath a rock somewhere, to do the proper signings. With some albatross contracts, even with a very competent GM that is one ugly roster to try and fix. I am guessing they will try and fill 3C with McLeod, though he needs to sit in Bakersfield and develop. So you may as well pencil him in now.

As far as wingers... I mean, damn. Chiasson was a bit of a minor revelation until he was hurt, and subsequent to his return he has just not been the same. Are you really going to risk another longer term for him? I dunno. And I fully credit the player, not the despised former GM. He was playing for a contract and his veteran saavy kicked in. Yamamoto, Puljujarvi (who may well not be here before even the draft occurs..).. Currie is not an answer, nor Rattie, nor Malone... why is it they can't find any proper talent evaluators? Drafting and development / followup remain a bloody joke. Agreed that Larsson also has not looked the same. They're desperate enough that I could see them having to stand pat for the most part and not dip into FA (which frankly given the track record could well be a blessing in disguise), and once more rely on kids coming in. We know how that goes.. at least here.

It's an awful recurring groundhog day nightmare.

 

[Soundwave]

Chiasson falling off the face of the planet and the Oilers offence getting further exposed was pretty predictable.

Dude was shooting at a higher shooting % than Wayne Gretzky's best season in the 80s.

That was in no way sustainable he was always going to crash down to earth in the 2nd half of the year.

 

[oobga]

Chiasson falling off the face of the planet and the Oilers offence getting further exposed was pretty predictable.

Dude was shooting at a higher shooting % than Wayne Gretzky's best season in the 80s.

That was in no way sustainable he was always going to crash down to earth in the 2nd half of the year.

We're still talking about CHaisson? Guy has barely done crap since mid December. Just looks like a PTO guy getting some gift ice time since.

Better not re-sign him for more than ~800-900k

 

[Yablo21]

McDavid seems check out though no? Medium effort tonight, maybe a really bad sign or he's smart enough to know we will do better with a couple high draft picks.

 

[Ninety7]

I really don’t get the fascination with Nurse.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

We're still talking about CHaisson? Guy has barely done crap since mid December. Just looks like a PTO guy getting some gift ice time since.

Better not re-sign him for more than ~800-900k

I'm at the point that I don't even want him back. His skating leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[Soundwave]

McDavid seems check out though no? Medium effort tonight, maybe a really bad sign or he's smart enough to know we will do better with a couple high draft picks.

People need to stop doing this. No player is 110% balls to the wall every night. Not Crosby, not Ovechkin, not Gretzky, not Lemieux.

When one team especially rides one player that hard and you have a player that doesn't have a ton of help around him, nights like this will happen.

Matthews didn't look too tuned into the game either ... difference is his team is much, much better.

 

[GodPucker]

Too many players who cannot process this game at an NHL level. AKA, we have too many non-NHL players.

Man I remember Nurse in the second. At the blue line with the puck. Wide open. Fakes a shot, goes behind the TO net, loses the puck lol.

Our D shoot when they shouldn't. They don't shoot when they should. They can't anticipate anything in the D zone. Cannot break cycles.

Our forwards dump the puck into the opposition zone 1000 times a game with zero purpose. How often do they hold possession and develop a cycle? 5%?

Forwards are just the lowest IQ I have ever seen assembled. These guys will head up on a 3 on 2 and all go to the net like 5 year olds playing soccer and all hiving around the ball.

Not even smart enough to have one guy slow up and trail the play a bit to really make it a dangerous odd man rush. I see CGY doing this simple thing like 20 times a game. They don't do anything fancy. One guy goes to open space.

Just so much dumb on this roster and a lot of it isn't the players fault. They are thrown into it.

Just TERRIBAD everywhere..

These guys should do NOTHING besides practise break outs all day errrrrrryday.

Opposition hugs the boards all game. Oilers D? Whip it around the boards all game. Have a guy at the top of the hashmarks waiting for a breakout. Never do this. Mindboggling. What the f*** do they do at practise?

 

[Ninety7]

Adam Larsson might win the green jacket this year.

But sure getting rid of Hall and Eberle for junk was the right move!

Get over it man

Eberle has a whopping 28 points this year on a strong islander team

 

[oobga]

Side discussion. Why is Manny's Oilers website picture some old thing from his WHL days?

Coaches & Management

Manny Viveiros named WHL's Eastern Conference Coach of the Year - ISN

Where is this guy? Is he still alive? Did the Sask-boys coaching gang of McLellan, Yawney and Gulutzan bury him somewhere?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Get over it man

Eberle has a whopping 28 points this year on a strong islander team

Wouldn’t that make him our fourth leading scorer?

 

[GQS]

With how quiet the place was I thought the game was in Edmonton.

Unfortunately that's how it is most nights when the Leafs play at home. They get abit louder when they're playing teams like the Habs or Bruins and its also better during the playoffs, but pretty much its fairly quiet alot of the time and that's partly to do with rich folks not cheering much and perhaps Torontonians are just pretty reserved in general.

 

[McDrai]

Get over it man

Eberle has a whopping 28 points this year on a strong islander team

Sadly that would be 5th best on this squad

 

[Ninety7]

Wouldn’t that make him our fourth leading scorer?

You think he’d score 28 points here?

 

[Del Preston]

We're still talking about CHaisson? Guy has barely done crap since mid December. Just looks like a PTO guy getting some gift ice time since.

Better not re-sign him for more than ~800-900k

Chiasson's play went down the drain once rumours started about his dad getting fired.

Chia's son: October - December 2018

 

[Ninety7]

Sadly that would be 5th best on this squad

I’m not sure why but I’m pretty skeptical that his point totals would stay the same.

 

[McDrai]

I’m not sure why but I’m pretty skeptical that his point totals would stay the same.

He'd have more for sure; wouldn't have much competition for a top 6 spot

 

[Ninety7]

He'd have more for sure; wouldn't have much competition for a top 6 spot

Are we talking about the same team here?

 

[Cloned]

Those were actually better times lol.