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i want the bartkowski thread back
Gaudette.
He's from New England but he played in Iowa during his draft season.
Gaudette.
I think you are just really underestimating how hard it is to play that many games. Realistically you would probably set the individual over/under at about 650 for those two players. That's 1,300 combined, which means that even if you get 500 games from Demko (Cory Schneider has 379) it STILL leaves you 200 games short, and you're banking on getting that from Forsling (21 games this season) and Tryamkin (0.)
He's from New England but he played in Iowa during his draft season.
Tryamkin and Forsling have already combined for 180 games...
Not to mention the game is far less physical and punishing now than ever before, while it keeps trending in that direction. Training, nutrition and supplementation is also lengthening athletes careers and look for this continue going forward.
2000 games is a reasonable projection IMO. We will be almost 1/3 of the way there at the end of this season, when these guys are still 22/23 years of age.
And the 2014 draft isn't even a top 3 Canuck draft for me under Benning...
Ah, I gotcha.Brackett said that he didn't see Boeser play much, he was mostly focused on the New England area and wasn't named head of scouting until after that draft.
Vancouver's US scouting, in general, has been "good" going back to Brian Burke.
Look man, you can believe what you want. I'm not going to go through hundreds of hours from each year's months leading up to the draft for you for something that is common knowledge. And why would I even lie about something like this anyways? theres literally no reason to push that agendaBenning generally goes into depth about the top 5 players every year on the radio....This does not indicate that he is going to select them..Benning was gushing about Matt Tkachuk in 2016,calling him one of the best players behind the oppositions net..
So you're expecting to get 2,000+ NHL games from 4 of the 5 drafts?
What is your source for the claim that careers are "lengthening?"
You're certainly lofty in your projections and expectations.No. But I am expecting Boeser to take a run at 500 career goals and Pettersson to take a run at 1000 NHL points. Too early to say if the 2018 draft is better than 2014 but I am very high on Hughes. Woo and Madden are very intriguing as well.
The improvements in nutrition, supplementation and training knowledge available will help athletes perform at a high level later into life. Improvements in medical procedures should help in this regard as well. Haven't looked for a source.
No. But I am expecting Boeser to take a run at 500 career goals and Pettersson to take a run at 1000 NHL points. Too early to say if the 2018 draft is better than 2014 but I am very high on Hughes. Woo and Madden are very intriguing as well.
The improvements in nutrition, supplementation and training knowledge available will help athletes perform at a high level later into life. Improvements in medical procedures should help in this regard as well. Haven't looked for a source.
Nylander and Tkachuk and the Sedins..?..Not flawed logic at all..We would not have been picking 5th in 2017..that’s for sureI really hate that saying we picking tkachuk and Nylander or Ehlers would have prevented the Pettersson pick. That's such flawed logic imo and it keeps getting repeated as an excuse.
It’s not common knowledge no matter how many times you keep saying it is..JB also personally scouted Heiskanen as wellLook man, you can believe what you want. I'm not going to go through hundreds of hours from each year's months leading up to the draft for you for something that is common knowledge. And why would I even lie about something like this anyways? theres literally no reason to push that agenda
I really hate that saying we picking tkachuk and Nylander or Ehlers would have prevented the Pettersson pick. That's such flawed logic imo and it keeps getting repeated as an excuse.
No. But I am expecting Boeser to take a run at 500 career goals and Pettersson to take a run at 1000 NHL points. Too early to say if the 2018 draft is better than 2014 but I am very high on Hughes. Woo and Madden are very intriguing as well.
The improvements in nutrition, supplementation and training knowledge available will help athletes perform at a high level later into life. Improvements in medical procedures should help in this regard as well. Haven't looked for a source.
You're certainly lofty in your projections and expectations.
Do you think if heiskannen or makar we’re there at 5 they take pettersson after saying for years they needed an offensive dman?It’s not common knowledge no matter how many times you keep saying it is..JB also personally scouted Heiskanen as well
Nylander and Tkachuk and the Sedins..?..Not flawed logic at all..We would not have been picking 5th in 2017..that’s for sure
No. But I am expecting Boeser to take a run at 500 career goals and Pettersson to take a run at 1000 NHL points. Too early to say if the 2018 draft is better than 2014 but I am very high on Hughes. Woo and Madden are very intriguing as well.
The improvements in nutrition, supplementation and training knowledge available will help athletes perform at a high level later into life. Improvements in medical procedures should help in this regard as well. Haven't looked for a source.
Brackett said that he didn't see Boeser play much, he was mostly focused on the New England area and wasn't named head of scouting until after that draft.
Vancouver's US scouting, in general, has been "good" going back to Brian Burke.
I don’t disagree that they may have been looking for a 1D before a 1C..my point is that it wasn’t necessarily Makar..Do you think if heiskannen or makar we’re there at 5 they take pettersson after saying for years they needed an offensive dman?
I don’t believe that Peterson’s was their #1 choice, here’s an article that follows that thought:
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The top 3 picks in 2017 all won the lottery and moved up from where they finished in the standings. They may not have been picking 5th, but they still could've had a shot at Pettersson.Nylander and Tkachuk and the Sedins..?..Not flawed logic at all..We would not have been picking 5th in 2017..that’s for sure
What we do know is that Nylander,Tkachuk,Sedins and Horvat is a pretty serious top 6Nobody knows how the draft lottery would have turned out if run again.
And he still choose Joulevi over him.Benning generally goes into depth about the top 5 players every year on the radio....This does not indicate that he is going to select them..Benning was gushing about Matt Tkachuk in 2016,calling him one of the best players behind the oppositions net..
18's too soon to judge and 14 isn't really his so that looks about right. 16 is really bad, especially knowing what type of hockey we had to witness for the reward after it all being a vanilla dman who probably wouldn't go in the first round if the draft was re-done.'Take a run at those totals' implies those are their ceilings. Health will always be the make or break factor in career accomplishments for guys this talented. Assuming they aren't decimated with injuries I would hope they strive for those 'lofty' goals. But yeah, they are best case scenarios. They are also special cases in that Pettersson stepped in at 19 and is on pace for close to a 50-50 rookie season, while Brock stepped in and got to 50 goals in only 110 games. What if they haven't peaked at 20 and 21 respectively? They also did it with one of, if not the worst offensive bluelines in the NHL.
Where would you rank the 2014 draft of Benning's 5 to date?
For me it's-
2017
2015
2018
2014
2016
Obviously it could look very different in the future.