Post-Game Talk: The 2017-18 New Jersey Devils.

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Billdo

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Well, we *DID* have Stevens and Niedermayer as a pairing for years. I'd say those two LHD worked out pretty well :)

Did either of them switch sides in the middle of their career? Or come to a new team and switch sides? (Serious question, i don't know if Stevens was RD before he came here) And you're talking about Hall of Fame type guys. We are talking about John Carlson lol.
 

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couple Kings fans on the trade board agreed to a Severson + McLeod OR Zacha for Muzzin deal

if we did that and signed Carlson, I would be ecstatic

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Did either of them switch sides in the middle of their career? Or come to a new team and switch sides? (Serious question, i don't know if Stevens was RD before he came here) And you're talking about Hall of Fame type guys. We are talking about John Carlson lol.
Not really sure, but when I google Scott Stevens and Capitals, the pics show him mainly on the left boards.
 

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couple Kings fans on the trade board agreed to a Severson + McLeod OR Zacha for Muzzin deal

if we did that and signed Carlson, I would be ecstatic

Muzzin-Carlson
Greene-Vatanen
Mueller-Butcher
Lovejoy

Hmm

I think I'd do Severson and McLeod for Muzzin. Of course only if we sign Carlson. Definitely an interesting proposal
 
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couple Kings fans on the trade board agreed to a Severson + McLeod OR Zacha for Muzzin deal

if we did that and signed Carlson, I would be ecstatic

Muzzin-Carlson
Greene-Vatanen
Mueller-Butcher
Lovejoy
oh my god, is that actually a trade proposal that actually... works for both sides?!?!

usually, those threads end up in "LOL the _________s would never do this! this is f***ing terrible!"
 

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Not really sure, but when I google Scott Stevens and Capitals, the pics show him mainly on the left boards.

Regardless it's a different time and he's a Hall of Famer. I am just saying it's not something that typically happens now without some hiccups. I'd rather explore trading for a bonafide top pairing LD. Obviously signing Carlson would be great but I'd still question the left side if he's dragging Andy Greene's corpse around all night.
 

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I like Muzzin but his contract expires when Hall's, Vatanen's, Hischier's, Bratt's, Butcher's expires. So I wouldn't want to give up so many young pieces for a guy who is turning 30 next season and might not be a prime re-sign candidate when his contract expires if the Devils also have Carlson's contract on the team as well.
 
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I like Muzzin but his contract expires when Hall's, Vatanen's, Hischier's, Bratt's, Butcher's expires. So I wouldn't want to give up so many young pieces for a guy who is turning 30 next season and might not be a prime re-sign candidate when his contract expires if the Devils also have Carlson's contract on the team as well.

Good point on extended outlay for compensation
 

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couple Kings fans on the trade board agreed to a Severson + McLeod OR Zacha for Muzzin deal

if we did that and signed Carlson, I would be ecstatic

Muzzin-Carlson
Greene-Vatanen
Mueller-Butcher
Lovejoy

I would not add anything substantial to Severson. Muzzin for Severson straight up would be a great get.

If LA wants Severson, his age and contract should balance out the value. They're getting the younger guy on a cheap long-term deal who also has potential to improve.
 

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I would not add anything substantial to Severson. Muzzin for Severson straight up would be a great get.

If LA wants Severson, his age and contract should balance out the value. They're getting the younger guy on a cheap long-term deal who also has potential to improve.

theres no way the Kings would make that deal.
 

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I like Muzzin but his contract expires when Hall's, Vatanen's, Hischier's, Bratt's, Butcher's expires. So I wouldn't want to give up so many young pieces for a guy who is turning 30 next season and might not be a prime re-sign candidate when his contract expires if the Devils also have Carlson's contract on the team as well.

you also subtract Severson's $4 million. Greene and Lovejoy are gone by then too, thats another ~$7.7 million
 

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I would not add anything substantial to Severson. Muzzin for Severson straight up would be a great get.

If LA wants Severson, his age and contract should balance out the value. They're getting the younger guy on a cheap long-term deal who also has potential to improve.
Even that I'm skeptical of. NJ would have to be pretty down on Severson. Which, given he was a healthy playoff scratch they are to a pretty large extent, but they have to think that he is not going to improve with time. Muzzin is going to begin trending downwards, and as has been said, is a UFA in a couple years.
 

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Even that I'm skeptical of. NJ would have to be pretty down on Severson. Which, given he was a healthy playoff scratch they are to a pretty large extent, but they have to think that he is not going to improve with time. Muzzin is going to begin trending downwards, and as has been said, is a UFA in a couple years.

you wouldn't trade Severson for Muzzin straight up?

You aren't serious, are you?
 

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couple Kings fans on the trade board agreed to a Severson + McLeod OR Zacha for Muzzin deal

if we did that and signed Carlson, I would be ecstatic

Muzzin-Carlson
Greene-Vatanen
Mueller-Butcher
Lovejoy
You add Muzzin AND Carlson but somehow that defense still looks bad. I think its Greene on the 2nd pair...
 
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