golffuul
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These articles always get me giddy. Just amazing how well the pick has turned out for us.
Prospect Info: Swedish Prospects 2021-22 Season Pt. 2
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Hatter of the Beach
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I understand that realistically a cup is harder to win than ever and with 32 NHL teams, we already all have likely seen more cups than we should have this lifetime, I genuinely would be surprised if we didn't win one in the next decade. Yzerman is creating something very, VERY, impressive.
ricky0034
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not without a Center he isn't
building a Nashville team at best right now, we'll see if that changes
Henkka
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O'Reilly
Bozak
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You can win without super-centers.
Also Hawks had many teams not that strong from the middle. More of Kane or Teräväinen providing skill from the Wing.
Toews
Handzus
Anisimov/B.Richards
etc.
This Center thing is just too overhyped problem. Many winner are build around Centers, yeah. But 100% of them aren't.
If you are strong at wings and defence, you'll win that way. Salary cap makes restrictions, you can't build a perfect team. Team with best Centers like Edmonton, is weak on other areas. Salaries and underpayments and cap circumvention mostly determines the winner.
Currently Yzerman in building superior Cap situation for Red Wings - something special we have never seen in NHL - and our Cup window could be as near at last years of Raymond and Seider ELCs. that's 2024.
His Yzerplan is something we have never seen. Short-term contracts way.
firestarter
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IIRC, the 2013 Hawks had Toews followed by a one-legged Handzus and Dave Bolland as their top 3 centers.. So Basically you need Larkin to be more dominant both ways and a whole lot of nothing after that, with the Dmen and wings making up for that (Seider,Raymond,Edvinsson could be those pieces)
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Toews was a top 3-10 C during that time so Larkin would definitely need to step his game up
YpsiWings
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St. Louis is the outlier, being strong down the middle is incredibly important to winning the cup. Binnington played above his head that playoff run, and O’Reilly is insane defensively, neck and neck with Bergeron as best in the league.
I love Larkin, but unless you have someone else just as good behind him it is tough to see a cup winning roster, would need everything else to go perfect. Not likely to happen.
Henkka
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It's a WINNER, not any kind of lie.
Lies are all the non-winners with those perfect Center-duos.
YpsiWings
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I said outlier, not a lie. Assuming English is your second language outlier basically means they are the exception to the rule, which the Blues as a cup winner most certainly are.
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Evidently Sweden lost to Finland 3-0. Can't find anything about how Edvinsson played. But Edvinsson wore the C, so that's cool.
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I'm happy to be wrong about any prospect I rate low, no doubt. And while I'm glad Wallinder is having a good start to the season, it doesn't change my outlook for him in a significant way... yet. It's a small sample size.
Meanwhile, I still really like Sebrango's game, especially as a 5/6 guy (as opposed to Wallinder in that role), I'm still high on AlJo, and then of course there is Edvinsson. Difficult for me to pencil in Wallinder on the future D corps. Best case for him is if he truly clicks and AlJo slips, and it's Wallinder who slides into that 2nd-pair LHD spot.
Gniwder
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Agree on all points, but Sebrango is gonna have to bulk up to play his game in the NHL. He needs to work out with Joey while Joey is still in the AHL.
It'll all sort itself out in a couple of years, I'm just wondering what Stevie is gonna do in the meantime. Edvinsson might be ready next season, but it's asking a lot for a 19 YO to play in the NHL, he doesn't have that year in the AHL like Seider had coming in.
I think the world and his wife know we need a higher ceiling center to be a real challenger, but it makes sense to focus on C after D unless the C falls into your lap, given usual development timescales. The next two drafts are deeper at forward, so even without wining the lottery, there is some quality to be had
Filppula
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We have so much cap space, we are in a position to throw money at a young top-end centre.
lilidk
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Tomorrow u20 Sweden vs Russia. Russians usually putting their games on YouTube live stream. Wallinder and Edvinsson are playing, also some next year drafty . Should pay attention on Yurov #25, possible our first round pick
lilidk
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deca guard
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what is this song playing right now with i think flutes . maybe organ , with female singers
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All 3 are playing but.... Bummer, LDN dropped for the Champions League game
Wallinder in the lineup for his CHL game as well
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lhsgolf19
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Make that 2 Goals for the Big Fella... It's 7-1
34 year old Ryan Lasch has 6 points in the game lol
34 year old Ryan Lasch has 6 points in the game lol
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