Bobby Ryan has 4 years left on his contract. Maybe it's semantics, but I consider that a long term deal. We may take on a bad contract, but I don't think it will be Ryan, Gaborik or Lucic unless maybe, maybe the other team is retaining. Even then, I doubt it.
I think someone like Orpik or Colin Wilson are more likely.
Lol. Haven't finished their inaugural season yet and you're here to blow them up.
I’d give Bereglazov another look before I’d give Smith.
Yeah based on some lineup projections with Smith and Staal on the roster and calling Zucc/Kovy a wash, with a cap of 78 we’ll have 8 mil in space. That’s huge. We’ll take on some contract for assets.I agree on the shorter term deals being taken on. Paul Martin is another one.
I'd consider Ryan if the Sens paid enough to have the Rangers take him. Or they retained about $1.5m.
Basically the scenarios are too fluid to say yes or no either way.
Define great for me.
A big issue here with many of you guys is this exact mentality.
We’re a rebuilding team. We shouldn’t be looking to “acquire” a top pairing dmen. We need to focus on drafting that dmen.
And **** the entire idea of signing Benedict Kovalchuk. He wants to win a Cup. We’re going to miss the playoffs and have already taken the necessary steps to rebuild.
Horton has 2 years left at $5.3m. Is that hit prohibitive enough for off season maneuvering for the leafs to pay up?Bobby Ryan has 4 years left on his contract. Maybe it's semantics, but I consider that a long term deal. We may take on a bad contract, but I don't think it will be Ryan, Gaborik or Lucic unless maybe, maybe the other team is retaining. Even then, I doubt it.
I think someone like Orpik or Colin Wilson are more likely.
They have a puncher's chance because they have an excellent goaltender.The path is the west isn't as difficult as the east.Do you see Vegas winning the Cup in the near future? That’s the goal.
I think it's very realistic we can trade for Bobby Ryan @ 50% retained if that means we take on their first round pick. The only question is what would be the other enticing part Ottawa would ask for. Sure, us taking on 4Y of Ryan is nice for them, but for trading that 1st rounder they would have to sell SOMETHING to the fans.Bobby Ryan has 4 years left on his contract. Maybe it's semantics, but I consider that a long term deal. We may take on a bad contract, but I don't think it will be Ryan, Gaborik or Lucic unless maybe, maybe the other team is retaining. Even then, I doubt it.
I think someone like Orpik or Colin Wilson are more likely.
You have an owner that bitches about not being paid back for an Uber ride from their franchise player Erik Karlsson. Money is a SERIOUS issues there. They were willing to come down on the ask for EK if a team took Ryan.Also, a question to ask is if there will be compliance buyouts with the next cba. That would make every bad contract a 2 year or less deal.
Bobby Ryan isn't useless, he's overpaid. So really bad luck with hand injuries. He's a finesse player with constant injuries to his best asset. If he can stay healthy, he can round out to a 25-30 goal guy that is praised by teammates as a great lockerrom guy. He admits he isn't living up to the deal and doesn't blame management for shopping him. Doesn't strike me as an ego guy.
If he continues to trend down, his cap isn't killing a rebuild. Ottawa isn't going to pay a guy to not play via a buyout. What is his salary relief worth to them? They want to pair him in a karlsson trade. It might not even be a scenario Ottawa explores without karlsson.
Not giving Smith a look is cutting your nose to spite your face.
You want to ice the best roster possible. If Smith comes into camp in shape and is ready to play, you give him the chance. Bereglazov should also get a look.
Something is wrong if you're taking on contracts with 4 years left assuming you're still gonna be bad. We aren't Arizona.
We already have 1 guy in the top 6 in Staal who struggles with the speed of the game,and you want to add another in Bereglazov?
I think Melnyk is the worst owner in the NHL, but I believe that story about the Uber ride turned out to be fake.You have an owner that *****es about not being paid back for an Uber ride from their franchise player Erik Karlsson. Money is a SERIOUS issues there. They were willing to come down on the ask for EK if a team took Ryan.
Ah did it? Ok because that was pretty awful if true. Either way, Ottawa desperately needs to take on less money. They would love to shed Ryan's money, if you're a team willing to take that contract on and dangle something OK in front of them, that first round pick can be had.I think Melnyk is the worst owner in the NHL, but I believe that story about the Uber ride turned out to be fake.
Something is wrong if you're taking on contracts with 4 years left assuming you're still gonna be bad. We aren't Arizona.
Assuming the return is more than just a player you wouldn't do it?Exactly what I was going to say. We're not Arizona, this is a cap team.
Or what about the other way, a 50/50 retention on him and we acquire an asset back for taking on more money.I agree on the shorter term deals being taken on. Paul Martin is another one.
I'd consider Ryan if the Sens paid enough to have the Rangers take him. Or they retained about $1.5m.
Basically the scenarios are too fluid to say yes or no either way.
Smith is already getting a look in Hartford and isn’t doing anything at all to deserve more attention. At least Bereglazov is in the KHL.Not giving Smith a look is cutting your nose to spite your face.
You want to ice the best roster possible. If Smith comes into camp in shape and is ready to play, you give him the chance. Bereglazov should also get a look.
Again, Ryan isn't bad. If the pendulum swings back, his hands get healed and stronger and he's potting goals at a decent rate. He won't get back to the $7.5m production, but what if he hits 30 goals next year and keeps that pace the following?Exactly what I was going to say. We're not Arizona, this is a cap team.
Smith's season is a loss. He broke his hand, he's been out. Let's see how he responds. It costs nothing to give him a look at camp.Smith is already getting a look in Hartford and isn’t doing anything at all to deserve more attention. At least Bereglazov is in the KHL.
I'm all on board the Ryan train at 50% retained. If he is only what he is now, $3M is eh, if he rebounds, it's great value. I like the risk/reward on him. He's 31, the deal will take him to 35. That is not aggressively over the hill at 3M/Y. I think people really have to look at his dollars v production at 50% retained. It makes it a lot more digestible.Again, Ryan isn't bad. If the pendulum swings back, his hands get healed and stronger and he's potting goals at a decent rate. He won't get back to the $7.5m production, but what if he hits 30 goals next year and keeps that pace the following?
He's a guy we can expose to Seattle. A 2020 playoff team might pay up if we retain. The cba forecast will be clearer. That team, or us, could potentially buy him out.
The key to being a GM now is predicting these issues a few years out. Some teams got crushed in the Vegas draft. We did pretty damn well and our plan will be the standard in the Seattle draft.
Smith is already getting a look in Hartford and isn’t doing anything at all to deserve more attention. At least Bereglazov is in the KHL.