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- Apr 14, 2005
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Maybe not be history, but does anyone know where I can find the voting results for the past two seasons?
Pages 5-6-7 or so of this thread.
Maybe not be history, but does anyone know where I can find the voting results for the past two seasons?
Nobody seems to have posted 2000/2001 votes yet, so here they are.
2000-2001 Hart
1. Joe Sakic, COL 585 (53-6-2-1-0)
2. Mario Lemieux, PIT 272 (8-17-10-6-5)
3. Jaromir Jagr, PIT 210 (0-20-10-5-5)
4. Roman Cechmanek, PHI 89 (0-2-8-10-5)
5. Martin Brodeur, N.J. 64 (0-4-4-4-4)
6. Patrik Elias, N.J. 61 (0-3-4-5-5)
7. Doug Weight, EDM 61 (0-2-7-2-6)
8. Dominik Hasek, BUF 42 (0-3-2-3-2)
9. Pavel Bure, FLA 41 (0-0-4-5-6)
10. Nicklas Lidstrom, DET 38 (0-2-1-6-1)
11. Markus Naslund, VAN 20 (1-1-0-0-3)
12. Sean Burke, PHX 17 (0-0-2-1-4)
13. Mike Modano, DAL 17 (0-0-1-3-3)
14. Alexei Yashin, OTT 15 (0-0-2-1-2)
15. Scott Stevens, N.J. 13 (0-0-2-1-0)
16. Alexei Kovalev, PIT 10 (0-1-0-1-0)
17. Tommy Salo, EDM 10 (0-0-2-0-0)
18. Evgeni Nabokov, S.J. 8 (0-0-1-0-3)
19. Sergei Fedorov, DET 7 (0-1-0-0-0)
20. Peter Bondra, WSH 7 (0-0-0-1-4)
21. Jason Allison, BOS 4 (0-0-0-1-1)
Steve Yzerman, DET 4 (0-0-0-1-1)
23. Rob Blake, L.A.-COL 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
Brett Hull, DAL 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
Patrick Lalime, OTT 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
Keith Primeau, PHI 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
Mark Recchi, PHI 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
28. Arturs Irbe, CAR 1 (0-0-0-0-1)
Jeff O'Neill, CAR 1 (0-0-0-0-1)
That Brodeur finished 5th in Hart voting in 2000-01 is puzzling.
His team led the league in goals for and had the best shot differential in the league.
Brodeur's save percentage was only slightly higher than the league average.
Was he really that valuable to this team that year?
I think you misunderstood him Devil.Without even checking, I'm sure he led the league in goals for because he led the league in minutes played by a wide margin. A valuable goalie tends to get lots of minutes, you know?
But please, go ahead and use statistics 8 years after the fact to argue against the opinions of those who, you know, actually watched the games.
2001 was obviously Sakic first, then Lemieux and Jagr, then everyone else.
I think you misunderstood him Devil.
He said "His team lead the league in goals for"
Meaning the devils were the highest scoring team in the league that year(By a pretty good margin over the other 100+ point teams). I think he was implying that the devils had exceptional depth at every position with 3 solid scoring lines + one of the best shutdown lines in the league, terrific defense and Brodeur.
In retrospect, at the time, they seemed to penalize goalies for playing on high scoring teams at the time. Hasek had a fantastic season in 2001-02(65GP, 41W, 15L, 8T, 2.17GAA, 91.5% 5 SO), but did not get many Vezina votes, etc
I think that is what the poster was getting at.
Wow, Steve Mason was ridiculously overrated. I can't believe he finished 4th (!) for the Hart.
2008-2009 NHL AWARDS VOTING RESULTS
2008-2009 Frank Selke Trophy Voting
#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
28|Antti Miettinen|MIN| 10 |1|0|0|0|0
50|Antti Miettinen|MIN| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
Disgraceful is how little respect Duncan Keith gets.i said this in the stickied thread in the main forum, but it bears saying again. pretty disgraceful on the voters' parts how close weber came to being a second team all-star. and this is coming from someone who likes weber.
Ovie was a clear cut Hart winner to me this year.@ Crosby getting the 2nd place vote for the Lady Byng.
And how the hell Ovie got so many 1st place votes for the Hart. It should have been close as hell. He wasn't clearly better then Malkin, Datsyuk, or even Mason and Parise.
Why? He was arguably the player most valuable to his teams success.
The guy made his season off a great December. From January to April he posted a .904 SV% and the Blue Jackets got below average goaltending. It'd be a different story if his overall play over the season was a higher level than most other goalie but it wasn't.
When you consider the type of defense Columbus plays (call it the Pascal Leclair effect) there's no chance in my mind that he was the fourth most valuable player in the league this year.
That's not to say he's not a good young player with a bright future but a month and a half of outstanding play to me isn't enough to be the fourth most valuable player in the league.
- Datsyuk squeezes by Richards by 3 points for the Selke.
- Ovechkin gets 130 of 132 votes for 1st team All-Star
- Would have expected Quenneville to get more Adams votes
- Nicklas Backstrom gets a 1st place vote for Selke...really?
SELKE voting:
1999-2000
Pierre Turgeon 10 (1-0-0-0-0)
Yanic Perreault 8 (0-0-0-2-2)
2002-2003
Brett Hull 7 (0-1-0-0-0)
2003-2004
Glen Murray, BOS 10 (1-0-0-0-0)
2006-2007
Teemu Selanne, ANA 11 (0-0-2-0-1)
Jaromir Jagr, NYR 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
Edit: Nevermind the following angry rant. I can't read.
Without even checking, I'm sure he led the league in goals for because he led the league in minutes played by a wide margin. A valuable goalie tends to get lots of minutes, you know?
But please, go ahead and use statistics 8 years after the fact to argue against the opinions of those who, you know, actually watched the games.
2001 was obviously Sakic first, then Lemieux and Jagr, then everyone else.