Research Thread for NHL Award and All-star Voting

[norrisnick]

Maybe not be history, but does anyone know where I can find the voting results for the past two seasons?

Pages 5-6-7 or so of this thread.

 

[Master_Of_Districts]

Nobody seems to have posted 2000/2001 votes yet, so here they are.

2000-2001 Hart

1. Joe Sakic, COL 585 (53-6-2-1-0)
2. Mario Lemieux, PIT 272 (8-17-10-6-5)
3. Jaromir Jagr, PIT 210 (0-20-10-5-5)
4. Roman Cechmanek, PHI 89 (0-2-8-10-5)
5. Martin Brodeur, N.J. 64 (0-4-4-4-4)
6. Patrik Elias, N.J. 61 (0-3-4-5-5)
7. Doug Weight, EDM 61 (0-2-7-2-6)
8. Dominik Hasek, BUF 42 (0-3-2-3-2)
9. Pavel Bure, FLA 41 (0-0-4-5-6)
10. Nicklas Lidstrom, DET 38 (0-2-1-6-1)
11. Markus Naslund, VAN 20 (1-1-0-0-3)
12. Sean Burke, PHX 17 (0-0-2-1-4)
13. Mike Modano, DAL 17 (0-0-1-3-3)
14. Alexei Yashin, OTT 15 (0-0-2-1-2)
15. Scott Stevens, N.J. 13 (0-0-2-1-0)
16. Alexei Kovalev, PIT 10 (0-1-0-1-0)
17. Tommy Salo, EDM 10 (0-0-2-0-0)
18. Evgeni Nabokov, S.J. 8 (0-0-1-0-3)
19. Sergei Fedorov, DET 7 (0-1-0-0-0)
20. Peter Bondra, WSH 7 (0-0-0-1-4)
21. Jason Allison, BOS 4 (0-0-0-1-1)
Steve Yzerman, DET 4 (0-0-0-1-1)
23. Rob Blake, L.A.-COL 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
Brett Hull, DAL 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
Patrick Lalime, OTT 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
Keith Primeau, PHI 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
Mark Recchi, PHI 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
28. Arturs Irbe, CAR 1 (0-0-0-0-1)
Jeff O'Neill, CAR 1 (0-0-0-0-1)

That Brodeur finished 5th in Hart voting in 2000-01 is puzzling.

His team led the league in goals for and had the best shot differential in the league.

Brodeur's save percentage was only slightly higher than the league average.

Was he really that valuable to this team that year?

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

That Brodeur finished 5th in Hart voting in 2000-01 is puzzling.

His team led the league in goals for and had the best shot differential in the league.

Brodeur's save percentage was only slightly higher than the league average.

Was he really that valuable to this team that year?

Edit: Nevermind the following angry rant. I can't read.

Without even checking, I'm sure he led the league in goals for because he led the league in minutes played by a wide margin. A valuable goalie tends to get lots of minutes, you know?

But please, go ahead and use statistics 8 years after the fact to argue against the opinions of those who, you know, actually watched the games.

2001 was obviously Sakic first, then Lemieux and Jagr, then everyone else.

 

[Dark Shadows]

Without even checking, I'm sure he led the league in goals for because he led the league in minutes played by a wide margin. A valuable goalie tends to get lots of minutes, you know?

But please, go ahead and use statistics 8 years after the fact to argue against the opinions of those who, you know, actually watched the games.

2001 was obviously Sakic first, then Lemieux and Jagr, then everyone else.

I think you misunderstood him Devil.
He said "His team lead the league in goals for"

Meaning the devils were the highest scoring team in the league that year(By a pretty good margin over the other 100+ point teams). I think he was implying that the devils had exceptional depth at every position with 3 solid scoring lines + one of the best shutdown lines in the league, terrific defense and Brodeur.

In retrospect, at the time, they seemed to penalize goalies for playing on high scoring teams at the time. Hasek had a fantastic season in 2001-02(65GP, 41W, 15L, 8T, 2.17GAA, 91.5% 5 SO), but did not get many Vezina votes, etc

I think that is what the poster was getting at.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I think you misunderstood him Devil.
He said "His team lead the league in goals for"

Meaning the devils were the highest scoring team in the league that year(By a pretty good margin over the other 100+ point teams). I think he was implying that the devils had exceptional depth at every position with 3 solid scoring lines + one of the best shutdown lines in the league, terrific defense and Brodeur.

In retrospect, at the time, they seemed to penalize goalies for playing on high scoring teams at the time. Hasek had a fantastic season in 2001-02(65GP, 41W, 15L, 8T, 2.17GAA, 91.5% 5 SO), but did not get many Vezina votes, etc

I think that is what the poster was getting at.

Oh yes. My 3AM reading comprehension apparently isn't what it used to be. I think it was a case of the 2000-01 Devils being an incredible team and the voters wanting to give someone Hart Credit. I noticed Brodeur, Stevens, and Elias all getting a small but significant number of votes.

As for Hasek in 2001-02, his numbers took a big dip when he moved to Detroit (other than wins obviously). He suffered from what Brodeur suffered from earlier in his career - being a a great team where he didn't need to be great.

 

[Dark Shadows]

How soon will it be until we get the results of this years voting?

In fact, can somebody source me where they usually come up with it and Ill compile it?

 

[pnep]

2008-2009 NHL AWARDS VOTING RESULTS


2008-2009 Hart Trophy Voting

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
1| Alex Ovechkin|WSH| 1264 |115|14|2|2|0
2| Evgeni Malkin|PIT| 787 |12|71|27|9|8
3| Pavel Datsyuk|DET| 404 |4|14|38|19|19
4| Steve Mason|CBJ| 266 |0|13|21|18|16
5| Zach Parise|NJ| 257 |0|5|20|31|29
6| Sidney Crosby|PIT| 103 |0|3|5|13|18
7| Tim Thomas|BOS| 100 |0|3|9|7|13
8| Zdeno Chara|BOS| 79 |2|3|2|8|4
9| Joe Thornton|SJ| 27 |0|2|1|2|2
10| Roberto Luongo|VAN| 19 |0|2|0|1|2
11| Jeff Carter|PHI| 19 |0|1|0|2|6
12| Jarome Iginla|CGY| 19 |0|0|2|2|3
13| Mike Green|WSH| 13 |0|0|2|1|0
14| Rick Nash|CBJ| 13 |0|0|1|2|2
15| Ryan Getzlaf|ANA| 11 |0|0|1|2|0
16| Evgeni Nabokov|SJ| 8 |0|0|1|1|0
17| Nicklas Lidstrom|DET| 7 |0|1|0|0|0
18| Patrick Marleau|SJ| 7 |0|0|0|2|1
18|Cam Ward|CAR| 7 |0|0|0|2|1
20| Miikka Kiprusoff|CGY| 6 |0|0|0|2|0
21| Henrik Zetterberg|DET| 6 |0|0|0|1|3
22| Chris Mason|STL| 4 |0|0|0|1|1
22|Eric Staal|CAR| 4 |0|0|0|1|1
24| Dan Boyle|SJ| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
24|Marian Hossa|DET| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
26| Mike Richards|PHI| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
26|Marc Savard|BOS| 1 |0|0|0|0|1

2008-2009 Norris Trophy Voting

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
1| Zdeno Chara|BOS| 1034 |68|36|18|4|0
2| Mike Green|WSH| 982 |50|53|19|4|4
3| Nicklas Lidstrom|DET| 733 |14|34|58|19|8
4| Shea Weber|NSH| 186 |0|4|11|25|28
5| Dan Boyle|SJ| 173 |0|2|4|38|25
6| Duncan Keith|CHI| 95 |0|2|4|14|19
7| Andrei Markov|MTL| 95 |0|1|9|10|13
8| Mark Streit|NYI| 29 |0|0|1|5|9
9| Brian Rafalski|DET| 27 |1|0|0|4|5
10| Scott Niedermayer|ANA| 27 |0|0|3|2|6
11| Dennis Wideman|BOS| 24 |0|0|2|3|5
12| Dion Phaneuf|CGY| 17 |0|0|2|2|1
13| Sheldon Souray|EDM| 16 |0|1|1|1|1
14| Jay Bouwmeester|FLA| 9 |0|0|1|0|4
15| Kimmo Timonen|PHI| 8 |0|0|0|1|5
16| Brian Campbell|CHI| 3 |0|0|0|1|0

2008-2009 Vezina Trophy Voting

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1| Tim Thomas|BOS| 127 |22|5|2
2| Steve Mason|CBJ| 33 |3|4|6
3| Niklas Backstrom|MIN| 31 |1|8|2
4| Roberto Luongo|VAN| 30 |2|5|5
5| Evgeni Nabokov|SJ| 20 |1|4|3
6| Henrik Lundqvist|NYR| 14 |1|1|6
7| Cam Ward|CAR| 11 |0|2|5
8| Miikka Kiprusoff|CGY| 3 |0|1|0
9| Tomas Vokoun|FLA| 1 |0|0|1

2008-2009 Jack Adams Award Voting

#|Coach|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1| Claude Julien|BOS| 224 |35|14|7
2| Andy Murray|STL| 135 |15|17|9
3| Todd McLellan|SJ| 98 |9|14|11
4| Ken Hitchcock|CBJ| 69 |5|9|17
5| Brent Sutter|NJ| 36 |3|6|3
6| Mike Babcock|DET| 20 |3|1|2
7| Joel Quenneville|CHI| 15 |1|2|4
8| Paul Maurice|CAR| 11 |0|3|2
9| Alain Vigneault|VAN| 10 |0|1|7
10| Barry Trotz|NSH| 8 |0|2|2
11| Bruce Boudreau|WSH| 6 |0|1|3
12| Peter DeBoer|FLA| 3 |0|1|0
13| Dan Bylsma|PIT| 2 |0|0|2
14| Ron Wilson|TOR| 2 |0|0|2

2008-2009 Calder Trophy Voting

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
1| Steve Mason|CBJ| 1268 |121|6|2|2|0
2| Bobby Ryan|ANA| 829 |9|84|24|9|4
3| Kris Versteeg|CHI| 323 |1|8|26|35|22
4| Pekka Rinne|NSH| 319 |0|15|34|9|17
5| Drew Doughty|LA| 303 |0|14|22|26|17
6| Blake Wheeler|BOS| 157 |1|3|11|17|20
7| Patrik Berglund|STL| 128 |0|0|10|20|18
8| T.J. Oshie|STL| 30 |0|1|1|5|3
9| Steven Stamkos|TB| 22 |0|0|0|3|13
10| Michael Frolik|FLA| 12 |0|1|1|0|0
11| Mikhail Grabovski|TOR| 8 |0|0|0|2|2
12| Zach Bogosian|ATL| 7 |0|0|0|1|4
13| Chris Butler|BUF| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
14| Matt Hunwick|BOS| 4 |0|0|0|1|1
15| Kyle Okposo|NYI| 4 |0|0|0|0|4
16| Jonathan Quick|LA| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
17| James Neal|DAL| 2 |0|0|0|0|2
17|Luke Schenn|TOR| 2 |0|0|0|0|2
19| Derick Brassard|CBJ| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
19|Claude Giroux|PHI| 1 |0|0|0|0|1

2008-2009 Lady Byng Trophy Voting

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
1| Pavel Datsyuk|DET| 933 |64|35|4|7|7
2| Martin St. Louis|TB| 662 |30|22|36|7|7
3| Zach Parise|NJ| 521 |15|30|23|14|4
4| Patrick Marleau|SJ| 203 |1|10|12|17|12
5| Nicklas Lidstrom|DET| 116 |4|3|3|12|4
6| Daniel Alfredsson|OTT| 113 |2|3|5|12|11
7| Jarome Iginla|CGY| 90 |3|4|2|6|4
8| Brian Rafalski|DET| 74 |2|3|3|2|12
9| Phil Kessel|BOS| 49 |0|3|3|3|4
10| Ray Whitney|CAR| 47 |2|0|2|4|5
11| Martin Havlat|CHI| 47 |1|1|3|3|6
12| Brian Campbell|CHI| 42 |1|2|2|2|2
13| Louie Eriksson|DAL| 41 |0|1|2|7|3
14| Teemu Selanne|ANA| 32 |0|2|3|1|0
15| Jason Pominville|BUF| 29 |0|0|2|4|7
16| Brad Boyes|STL| 25 |1|2|0|0|1
17| Brad Richards|DAL| 25 |0|1|3|0|3
18| Daniel Sedin|VAN| 24 |0|0|1|5|4
19| Todd White|ATL| 22 |1|1|0|1|2
20| David Krejci|BOS| 21 |0|0|2|3|2
21| Mike Knuble|PHI| 20 |2|0|0|0|0
22| Simon Gagne|PHI| 19 |0|2|0|1|2
23| Milan Hejduk|COL| 17 |0|1|1|1|2
24| Henrik Zetterberg|DET| 17 |0|1|0|3|1
25| Kyle Wellwood|VAN| 15 |0|0|3|0|0
26| Shane Doan|PHX| 14 |1|0|0|1|1
27| Jiri Hudler|DET| 12 |0|0|1|2|1
28| Ian Laperriere|COL| 10 |1|0|0|0|0
28|Ryan Miller|BUF| 10 |1|0|0|0|0
28|Martin Skoula|MIN| 10 |1|0|0|0|0
31| Travis Zajac|NJ| 10 |0|1|0|1|0
32| Nicklas Backstrom|WSH| 10 |0|0|2|0|0
33| Joe Thornton|SJ| 8 |0|1|0|0|1
34| Slava Kozlov|ATL| 8 |0|0|1|1|0
35| Patrice Bergeron|BOS| 7 |0|1|0|0|0
35|Rod Brind'Amour|CAR| 7 |0|1|0|0|0
35|Sidney Crosby|PIT| 7 |0|1|0|0|0
35|Henrik Sedin|VAN| 7 |0|1|0|0|0
39| Andrew Brunette|MIN| 7 |0|0|1|0|2
39| J.P. Dumont|NSH| 7 |0|0|1|0|2
39|Niklas Hagman|TOR| 7 |0|0|1|0|2
42| P.J. Axelsson|BOS| 6 |0|0|1|0|1
42|Stephen Weiss|FLA| 6 |0|0|1|0|1
44| Craig Conroy|CGY| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
44|Pavol Demitra|VAN| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
44|Chris Drury|NYR| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
44|Roberto Luongo|VAN| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
44|Mark Recchi|BOS| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
44|Rob Scuderi|PIT| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
44|Devin Setoguchi|SJ| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
44|Eric Staal|CAR| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
52| Patrik Elias|NJ| 4 |0|0|0|1|1
52|Anze Kopitar|LA| 4 |0|0|0|1|1
52|Thomas Vanek|BUF| 4 |0|0|0|1|1
55| Patrik Berglund|STL| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
55|Dustin Boyd|CGY| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
55|Marian Hossa|DET| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
55|Patrick Kane|CHI| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
55|Vincent Lecavalier|TB| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
55|Henrik Lundquist|NYR| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
55|Jay Pandolfo|NJ| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
55|Richard Zednik|FLA| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
55|Saku Koivu|MTL| 2 |0|0|0|0|2
64| Dustin Brown|LA| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Mike Cammalleri|CGY| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Sergei Fedorov|WSH| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Viktor Kozlov|WSH| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Andrew Ladd|CHI| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Michael Ryder|BOS| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Cory Stillman|FLA| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Steve Sullivan|NSH| 1 |0|0|0|0|1

2008-2009 Frank Selke Trophy Voting

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
1| Pavel Datsyuk|DET| 945 |55|48|8|5|4
2| Mike Richards|PHI| 942 |61|42|6|2|2
3| Ryan Kesler|VAN| 290 |1|9|33|14|10
4| Henrik Zetterberg|DET| 154 |3|3|8|17|12
5| Mikko Koivu|MIN| 154 |1|3|13|17|7
6| David Krejci|BOS| 109 |2|5|5|8|5
7| Travis Zajac|NJ| 89 |0|3|10|5|3
8| Zach Parise|NJ| 80 |2|2|9|0|1
9| Patrick Marleau|SJ| 64 |0|1|5|7|11
10| Jamie Langenbrunner|NJ| 58 |1|1|3|6|8
11| Alex Burrows|VAN| 35 |1|0|4|1|2
12| Craig Conroy|CGY| 33 |0|2|1|2|8
13| Marian Hossa|DET| 33 |0|0|3|6|0
14| Andrew Ladd|CHI| 30 |1|2|0|2|0
15| Simon Gagne|PHI| 26 |0|3|1|0|0
16| Rod Brind'Amour|CAR| 23 |1|1|1|0|1
17| Jonathan Toews|CHI| 22 |1|1|0|1|2
18| Jeff Carter|PHI| 22 |0|1|1|2|4
19| Manny Malhotra|CBJ| 21 |0|0|3|0|6
20| Joe Pavelski|SJ| 17 |0|0|3|0|2
21| P.J. Axelsson|BOS| 17 |0|0|1|3|3
22| Marc Savard|BOS| 12 |1|0|0|0|2
23| Ryan Getzlaf|ANA| 12 |0|1|1|0|0
24| Johan Franzen|DET| 11 |0|1|0|1|1
24|John Madden|NJ| 11 |0|1|0|1|1
24|Blake Wheeler|BOS| 11 |0|1|0|1|1
27| Maxim Lapierre|MTL| 11 |0|0|1|2|0
28| Nicklas Backstrom|WSH| 10 |1|0|0|0|0
28|Antti Miettinen|MIN| 10 |1|0|0|0|0
30| Joe Thornton|SJS| 10 |0|0|2|0|0
31| Jay McClement|STL| 10 |0|0|1|1|2
32| Jordan Staal|PIT| 10 |0|0|1|0|5
33| Chris Drury|NYR| 9 |0|1|0|0|2
34| Blair Betts|NYR| 8 |0|0|0|2|2
35| Jarome Iginla|CGY| 7 |0|1|0|0|0
36| Rick Nash|CBJ| 7 |0|0|0|2|1
36|Alexander Semin|WSH| 7 |0|0|0|2|1
38| Daniel Alfredsson|OTT| 6 |0|0|1|0|1
38|Kris Draper|DET| 6 |0|0|1|0|1
40| Patrik Elias|NJ| 6 |0|0|0|2|0
41| David Legwand|NSH| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
41|Derek Roy|BUF| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
41| Martin St. Louis|TB| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
41|Eric Staal|CAR| 5 |0|0|1|0|0
45| Samuel Pahlsson|CHI| 5 |0|0|0|1|2
46| Brian Gionta|NJ| 4 |0|0|0|1|1
46|Martin Havlat|CHI| 4 |0|0|0|1|1
46|Shawn Horcoff|EDM| 4 |0|0|0|1|1
49| Evgeni Malkin|PIT| 4 |0|0|0|0|4
50| Loui Eriksson|DAL| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|Mike Grier|SJ| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|Jere Lehtinen|DAL| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|Antti Miettinen|MIN| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|Travis Moen|SJ| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|Dominic Moore|BUF| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|Alex Ovechkin|WSH| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|Jason Pominville|BUF| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|Marty Reasoner|ATL| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|Daniel Sedin|VAN| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|Patrick Sharp|CHI| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|David Steckel|WSH| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
50|Joel Ward|NSH| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
63| Rene Bourque|CGY| 3 |0|0|0|0|3
64| Eric Belanger|MIN| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Ryan Callahan|NYR| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Michal Handzus|LA| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Ian Laperriere|COL| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64| R.J. Umberger|CBJ| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Stephen Weiss|FLA| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
64|Stephane Yelle|BOS| 1 |0|0|0|0|1

 

[pnep]

2008-2009 NHL ALL-STAR TEAM VOTING RESULTS


CENTER

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Evgeni Malkin| PIT| 591 |107|18|2
2|Pavel Datsyuk| DET| 325 |13|76|32
3|Sidney Crosby| PIT| 203 |7|34|66
4|Ryan Getzlaf| ANA| 17 |1|1|9
5|Joe Thornton| SJ| 14 |2|0|4
6|Jeff Carter| PHI| 7 |0|0|7
7|Mikko Koivu| MIN| 5 |1|0|0
8|Henrik Zetterberg| DET| 4 |0|1|1
9|Eric Staal| CAR| 3 |0|1|0
10|Nicklas Backstrom| WSH| 3 |0|0|3
10|Marc Savard| BOS| 3 |0|0|3
12|Mike Richards| PHI| 2 |0|0|2
13|David Krejci| BOS| 1 |0|0|1
13|Patrick Marleau| SJ| 1 |0|0|1

LEFT WING

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Alex Ovechkin| WSH| 650 |130|0|0
2|Zach Parise| NJ| 362 |2|114|10
3|Ilya Kovalchuk| ATL| 64 |0|8|40
4|Rick Nash| CBJ| 58 |0|2|52
5|Daniel Sedin| VAN| 15 |0|1|12
6|Mike Cammalleri| CGY| 14 |0|1|11
7|Henrik Zetterberg| DET| 13 |0|3|4
8|Simon Gagne| PHI| 4 |0|1|1
9|Marian Hossa| DET| 3 |0|1|0
9|Evgeni Malkin| PIT| 3 |0|1|0
11|Alexander Semin| WSH| 1 |0|0|1
11|Ray Whitney| CAR| 1 |0|0|1

RIGHT WING

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Jarome Iginla| CGY| 568 |100|20|8
2|Marian Hossa| DET| 234 |20|38|20
3|Martin St. Louis| TB| 144 |4|30|34
4|Martin Havlat| CHI| 136 |4|28|32
5|Corey Perry| ANA| 18 |0|3|9
6|Shane Doan| PHX| 15 |0|3|6
7|Brad Boyes| STL| 11 |0|2|5
8|Rick Nash| CBJ| 9 |0|3|0
9|Daniel Alfredsson| OTT| 6 |0|0|6
10|Ryan Getzlaf| ANA| 5 |1|0|0
10|Alex Ovechkin| WSH| 5 |1|0|0
10|Zach Parise| NJ| 5 |1|0|0
13|David Backes| STL| 3 |0|1|0
13|Phil Kessel| BOS| 3 |0|1|0
13|Alexander Semin| WSH| 3 |0|1|0
13|Henrik Zetterberg| DET| 3 |0|1|0
17|Jamie Langenbrunner| NJ| 3 |0|0|3
18|Patrick Kane| CHI| 2 |0|0|2
18|Devin Setoguchi| SJ| 2 |0|0|2
20|Mike Cammalleri| CGY| 1 |0|0|1
20|Alex Kovalev| MTL| 1 |0|0|1
20|Bobby Ryan| ANA| 1 |0|0|1
20|Ray Whitney| CAR| 1 |0|0|1

DEFENSE

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Mike Green| WSH| 594 |107|18|5
2|Zdeno Chara| BOS| 566 |97|26|3
3|Nicklas Lidstrom| DET| 471 |49|72|10
4|Dan Boyle| SJ| 173 |2|40|43
5|Shea Weber| NSH| 172 |4|36|44
6|Andrei Markov| MTL| 106 |1|23|32
7|Duncan Keith| CHI| 97 |3|19|25
8|Brian Rafalski| DET| 39 |1|5|19
9|Scott Niedermayer| ANA| 33 |0|6|15
10|Mark Streit| NYI| 29 |0|4|17
11|Dennis Wideman| BOS| 26 |0|5|11
12|Dion Phaneuf| CGY| 13 |0|3|4
13|Sheldon Souray| EDM| 12 |0|2|6
14|Kimmo Timonen| PHI| 10 |0|1|7
15|Jay Bouwmeester| FLA| 7 |0|0|7
16|Brian Campbell| CHI| 6 |0|1|3
17|Drew Doughty| LA| 3 |0|1|0
18|Chris Pronger| ANA| 3 |0|0|3
19|Niklas Kronwall| DET| 2 |0|0|2
19|Willie Mitchell| VAN| 2 |0|0|2
21|Rob Blake| SJ| 1 |0|0|1
21|Robyn Regehr| CGY| 1 |0|0|1

GOALTENDER

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Tim Thomas| BOS| 580 |103|20|5
2|Steve Mason| CBJ| 313 |22|60|23
3|Roberto Luongo| VAN| 82 |2|14|30
4|Niklas Backstrom| MIN| 60 |0|14|18
5|Evgeni Nabokov| SJ| 50 |1|9|18
6|Miikka Kiprusoff| CGY| 29 |1|5|9
7|Cam Ward| CAR| 26 |0|4|14
8|Martin Brodeur| NJ| 7 |1|0|2
9|Henrik Lundqvist| NYR| 7 |0|1|4
10|Tomas Vokoun| FLA| 6 |0|2|0
11|Chris Mason| STL| 5 |1|0|0
12|Pekka Rinne| NSH| 3 |0|0|3
13|Nikolai Khabibulin| CHI| 1 |0|0|1
13|Ryan Miller| BUF| 1 |0|0|1

 

[pitseleh]

Wow, Steve Mason was ridiculously overrated. I can't believe he finished 4th (!) for the Hart.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

i said this in the stickied thread in the main forum, but it bears saying again. pretty disgraceful on the voters' parts how close weber came to being a second team all-star. and this is coming from someone who likes weber.

 

[kmad]

Who the hell gave Brian Rafalski a first place Norris vote?

 

[lazerbullet]

@ Crosby getting the 2nd place vote for the Lady Byng.

And how the hell Ovie got so many 1st place votes for the Hart. It should have been close as hell. He wasn't clearly better then Malkin, Datsyuk, or even Mason and Parise.

 

[Nalyd Psycho]

Wow, Steve Mason was ridiculously overrated. I can't believe he finished 4th (!) for the Hart.

Why? He was arguably the player most valuable to his teams success.

 

[captain AARON MAIDEN*]

2008-2009 NHL AWARDS VOTING RESULTS



2008-2009 Frank Selke Trophy Voting

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
28|Antti Miettinen|MIN| 10 |1|0|0|0|0
50|Antti Miettinen|MIN| 3 |0|0|0|1|0

wow, Mittens is god.

 

[Dark Shadows]

i said this in the stickied thread in the main forum, but it bears saying again. pretty disgraceful on the voters' parts how close weber came to being a second team all-star. and this is coming from someone who likes weber.

Disgraceful is how little respect Duncan Keith gets.

He should have been 4th overall for the last 2nd team spot, not Boyle

@ Crosby getting the 2nd place vote for the Lady Byng.

And how the hell Ovie got so many 1st place votes for the Hart. It should have been close as hell. He wasn't clearly better then Malkin, Datsyuk, or even Mason and Parise.

Ovie was a clear cut Hart winner to me this year.

Him taking so many first place votes has nothing to do with how "close" the voters thought they were. Merely that everyone thought Ovechkin was just a little bit better, so they gave him the 1st place vote

 

[pitseleh]

Why? He was arguably the player most valuable to his teams success.

The guy made his season off a great December. From January to April he posted a .904 SV% and the Blue Jackets got below average goaltending. It'd be a different story if his overall play over the season was a higher level than most other goalie but it wasn't.

When you consider the type of defense Columbus plays (call it the Pascal Leclair effect) there's no chance in my mind that he was the fourth most valuable player in the league this year.

That's not to say he's not a good young player with a bright future but a month and a half of outstanding play to me isn't enough to be the fourth most valuable player in the league.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

The guy made his season off a great December. From January to April he posted a .904 SV% and the Blue Jackets got below average goaltending. It'd be a different story if his overall play over the season was a higher level than most other goalie but it wasn't.

When you consider the type of defense Columbus plays (call it the Pascal Leclair effect) there's no chance in my mind that he was the fourth most valuable player in the league this year.

That's not to say he's not a good young player with a bright future but a month and a half of outstanding play to me isn't enough to be the fourth most valuable player in the league.

It's similar to how Shea Weber came so close to being a 2nd team all star - an outstanding run early in the season got the writers' attention, then they were too lazy to notice him falling back to Earth.

 

[YzermanWings19]

Marleau for Hart!

 

[skariya18]

- Datsyuk squeezes by Richards by 3 points for the Selke.

- Ovechkin gets 130 of 132 votes for 1st team All-Star

- Would have expected Quenneville to get more Adams votes

- Nicklas Backstrom gets a 1st place vote for Selke...really?

 

[Dark Shadows]

- Datsyuk squeezes by Richards by 3 points for the Selke.

- Ovechkin gets 130 of 132 votes for 1st team All-Star

- Would have expected Quenneville to get more Adams votes

- Nicklas Backstrom gets a 1st place vote for Selke...really?

Rafalski getting a 1st place norris vote was even more bizarre.

 

[lextune]

Local writers I assume.

 

[reckoning]

Had these exact same votes been awarded under the pre-1996 format of 5-3-1, Richards would've won the Selke over Datsyuk 437-427. There's been a few times where the winner would've been different under the old system (Bourque instead of Chelios for the '96 Norris, Jagr instead of Pronger for the 2000 Hart).

Two writers not having Ovechkin among their top 3 LWs is a little odd. One of them voted for him at RW instead, not sure why the other one missed him completely.

 

[seventieslord]

I still hate the points system. why does a guy who got a first place votes get 10X as many points as a guy who got a 5th place vote? Why does the 3rd place guy get 5X as many points as the 5th place guy?

Who did the voters like better? A guy who was 0-0-3-1-1 with 19 points? Or a guy with 0-0-0-2-8? He showed up on twice as many ballots and has just 14 points.

 

[Padan]

SELKE voting:

1999-2000

Pierre Turgeon 10 (1-0-0-0-0)
Yanic Perreault 8 (0-0-0-2-2)

2002-2003

Brett Hull 7 (0-1-0-0-0)

2003-2004

Glen Murray, BOS 10 (1-0-0-0-0)

2006-2007

Teemu Selanne, ANA 11 (0-0-2-0-1)
Jaromir Jagr, NYR 3 (0-0-0-1-0)

Gotta love the Selke voting.

 

[canucks4ever]

Edit: Nevermind the following angry rant. I can't read.

Without even checking, I'm sure he led the league in goals for because he led the league in minutes played by a wide margin. A valuable goalie tends to get lots of minutes, you know?

But please, go ahead and use statistics 8 years after the fact to argue against the opinions of those who, you know, actually watched the games.

2001 was obviously Sakic first, then Lemieux and Jagr, then everyone else.

Why couldnt hasek be the runner up to sakic? He recorded 11 shutouts, played 67 games and had a 92.1 save%. Hasek was far more valuable to the sabres than Jagr or Lemieux were to Pittsburgh. Mario didnt get much hart support in 1990 or 1992, yet hes the runner up in 2001 despite missing 3 months, nice logic in voting. In 1992 he played more games and won the scoring title, yet recieves fewer votes.