Research Thread for NHL Award and All-star Voting

[nik jr]

Montreal Gazette: 3-11-1924

By the narrow margin of one point, Frank Nighbor, of the Ottawa Hockey Club, wins the Hart Cup, presented to the National Hockey League by Dr. David Hart of Montreal, for the player of most value to his team in each season. The cup must be won three times, not necessarily in succession, for the cup to become the outright property of any player.

Sprague Cleghorn, of Canadiens, was the runner-up and John Ross Roach, of St. Patricks, a close third, being only one point behind Cleghorn.

The decision was reached by a jury of sporting writers from the various cities of the National Hockey League circuit composed of P. Jones, Hamilton Herald; W. MacMullen, Hamilton Spectator; C.(?) W. McQueen, Mail and Empire, Toronto; R. Hewitson, The Telegram, Toronto; Basil O'Meara, The Journal, Ottawa; A. Laberge, La Presse, Montreal; and E.W. Ferguson, The Herald, Montreal. Their votes were placed with Frank Calder, president of the N.H.L., who announced the results last night.

Each member of the jury was asked to name eight players in order, who in their judgment were of the most value to their respective sides. Eight points were alloted to the first on the list, seven to the second and so on down.

The finals aggregate gave Frank Nighbor 37 points, Sprague Cleghorn 36 points, and John Ross Roach 35.

Next in order were George Boucher, Ottawa; Billie Burch, Hamilton; Morenz, Montreal; Forbes, Hamilton; Prodgers, Hamilton; Cy Denneny, Ottawa; Babe Dye, St. Patricks.

The cup will be formally presented to the winner at the Ottawa-Canadien game in Ottawa tonight.

 

[seventieslord]

Awesome!!! Detailed hart standings for 1924. Way to go nik!
Posted via Mobile Device

 

[nik jr]

there was much controversy about the '54 hart.

Did Rollins Deserve Award?

Toronto (CP) -- Goalkeeper Al Rollins of Chicago Blackhawks was awarded the Hart Trophy Monday night as the most valuable player to his National Hockey League team and at least two sports columnists said he shouldn't have got it.

The selection for the 1953-54 season was made in a poll of hockey writers and sportscasters from each of the six league cities. It started a field day for second-guessers who may have figured either defenseman Red Kelly of Detroit Red Wings or Maurice Richard of Montreal Canadiens was a cinch for the award.

Commented Elmer Ferguson of the Montreal Herald:
"We can't recall when the experts made a more idiotic selection. If this sort of mawkish, sentimental voting is to become permanency, it's better we should scrap all the awards in the book and turn over their allocation to the league or the governors or the coaches."

Baz O'Meara, Montreal Star: "Our own preference was for Maurice Richard, and this was not dictated by devotion to Canadiens or Richard friendship or sentiment.... Nearly everybody thought Kelly would win the award, but he has had plenty of awards and honors this year.... our own idea is that there should be some other method of selection, some method by which referees and linesmen should be allowed into the panel."

Red Burnet of the Toronto Daily Star said:
"It's just possible that Detroit's Red Kelly, Canadiens' Maurice Richard and Leafs' Harry Lumley were more valuable to their teams in the strictest sense of the word.

"However, from our point of vantage, the Hungry-looking six-foot two native of Vanguard, Sask., rates the coveted Hart Trophy--maybe they should spell it 'heart' in this case--for courage, if nothing else."

Rollins was credited by many for holding the Hawks together last season. They won only 12 games in the 70 game schedule and finished in last place.

the last part fits consistent with something pappyline once posted, that the award was given b/c rollins didn't win in '53.


Ottawa Citizen of 1-18-1954 says in first half Hart voting, Rollins led Kelly 50 to 40. Howe was 3rd at 22.



i also found this:

Kelly Is Choice as Hockey's Best

New York, March 27 (U.P.) -- Leonard Patrick (Red) Kelly, stellar defenseman of the Detroit Red Wings, today was named the National Hockey League's "Player of the Year" in a poll conducted by the United Press.

Sports writers in the six league cities also selected Frank (King) Clancy of the Toronto Maple Leafs as "Coach of the Year" by a margin of one vote over Lynn Patrick of the Boston Bruins, while Johnny Bower of the New York Rangers was honored as "Rookie of the Year."

Kelly attracted five more votes than goalie Harry Lumley of the Maple Leafs, his nearest rival in the player balloting. Others who received votes in this category were Detroit's Gordie Howe, who was named right wing on this year's United Press All-Star team, goalie Al Rollins of the Chicago Blackhawks, and right wing Maurice (Rocket) Richard of the Montreal Canadiens.

EDIT

another:

Hockey Awards

Al Leader, Frankie Eddolls and Red Kelly have been named for the three annual awards given by The Hockey News for outstanding achievement in professional hockey.

Leader, president of the Western Hockey League, was selected top executive, Eddolls, leading coach (of Buffalo Bisons), and Kelly (Red Wings) outstanding player.

 

[nik jr]

1927-28
HART: (417)
1. Howie Morenz, Mtl C 131
2. Roy Worters, Pit G 91
3. Eddie Shore, Bos D 84
4. George Hay, Det LW 73
5. Ching Johnson, NYR D 38

LADY BYNG: (376)
1. Frank Boucher, NYR C 98
2. George Hay, Det LW 93
3. Howie Morenz, Mtl C 65
4. Frank Nighbor, Ott C 61
5. Harry Oliver, Bos RW 59

i have found several sources (NYT, Reading Eagle, Ottawa Citizen, Deseret News) that say Morenz got 123 votes out of 140 possible.

Ottawa Citizen of 5-23-1928 says:
Morenz: 123
Worters: 82
Shore: 78
Hay: 73
Johnson: 31
Nighbor: 28

NYT has the same.


Ottawa Citizen also has different totals for Byng:
Boucher: 98
Hay: 81
Nighbor: 61
Oliver: 59
Himes: 57
Gardiner: 50

 

[seventieslord]

Unless I missed it, you don't have this yet:

1964 Byng:

Hull 50-30-80
Delvecchio 3-56-59
Keon 20-24-44
Henry 28-2-30
Provost 9-18-27
Goyette 21-1-22
MacGregor 13-3-16
Kelly 10-1-11
Marshall 0-10-10
Ullman 2-7-9
Richard 0-7-7
Prentice 5-0-5
Bucyk 1-1-2
Rousseau 0-1-1
Tremblay 0-1-1

(globe and mail, may 15th, 1965)

 

[nik jr]

i don't think '66 AS voting has been posted yet.


Montreal Gazette: 5-13-1966


1st place vote=5p
2nd place vote=3p
3rd place vote=1p


1st number is votes after the 1st half of the season, 2nd number is for 2nd half of the season, 3rd is total votes.


Goal
Glenn Hall, CHI, (84-60-144), Gump Worsley, MON, (18-67-85), Roger Crozier, DET, (54-25-79), Johnny Bower, TOR, (5-8-13), Ed Johnston, BOS, (1-2-3)

Defense
Jacques Laperriere, MON, (84-35-119), Pierre Pilote, CHI, (64-38-102), Allan Stanley, TOR, (37-40-77), Pat Stapleton, CHI, (1-68-69), J.C. Tremblay, MON, (10-58-68), Harry Howell, NYR, (24-42-66), Doug Barkley, DET, (57-6-63), Tim Horton, TOR, (15-16-31), Matt Ravlich, CHI, (18-2-20), Ted Green, BOS, (11-0-11), Gilles Marotte, BOS, (0-8-8), Kent Douglas, TOR, (0-3-3), Larry Hillman, TOR, (0-3 -3), Ted Harris, MON, (0-3?-3?), Bob Baun, TOR, (1-0-1), Albert Langlois, BOS, (1-0-1), Marcel Pronovost, TOR, (1-0-1), Bert Marshall, DET, (0-1-1), Terry Harper, MON, (0-1-1)

Centre
Stan Mikita, CHI, (57-43-100), Jean Beliveau, MON, (17-72-89), Norm Ullman, DET, (63-19-82), Alex Delvecchio, DET, (3-17-20), Bob Pulford, TOR, (11-8-19), Henri Richard, MON, (10-3-13), Dave Keon, TOR, (1-0-1)

Left Wing
Bobby Hull, CHI, (90-90-180), Frank Mahovlich, TOR, (9-50-59), Doug Mohns, CHI, (36-2-38), Don Marshall, NYR, (15-2-17), Gilles Tremblay, MON, (7-9-16), John Bucyk, BOS, (0-5-5), Norm Ullman, DET, (3-0-3), Bill Hay, CHI, (0-3-3), Paul Henderson, DET, (2-0-2), Alex Delvecchio, DET, (0-1-1)

Right Wing
Gordie Howe, DET, (80-80-160), Bob Rousseau, MON, (56-57-113), Bob Nevin, NYR, (22-20-42), Ken Wharram, CHI, (3-4-7), Eric Nesterenko, CHI, (1-0-1), Claude Provost, MON, (0-1-1)


Barkley made the 2nd team in the 1st half, but had a serious eye injury in the 2nd half.

1st AS's got $1000, 2nd AS's $500. leaders in each half season got $500, runners up in each half season got $250. Hull and Howe were the only players to get the maximum $2000.





basic '57 AS voting

Goal: Glenn Hall (121), Jacques Plante (85)

Defense: Doug Harvey (172), Red Kelly (98), Fern Flaman (79), Bill Gadsby (77)

Centre: Jean Beliveau (141), Ed Litzenberger (43)

Right Wing: Gordie Howe (176), Maurice Richard (69)

Left Wing: Ted Lindsay (156), Real Chevrefils (55)


Sawchuk led after the 1st half, but became ill and missed much of the 2nd half.

 

[seventieslord]

Nice work on 1966, nik. I actually was planning on searching the globe and mail for the pre-1968 all-star results. Nice to see you had some luck there.

As for 1957, I already had the voting points in my records. Not sure if they were already in this thread or if I got them somewhere else.

 

[pnep]

2009-2010 Hart Trophy Voting

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
1|Sedin Henrik|VAN| 894 |46|34|27|19|4
2|Ovechkin Alex|WAS| 834 |40|35|22|22|13
3|Crosby Sidney|PIT| 729 |20|35|38|29|7
4|Miller Ryan|BUF| 505 |13|22|24|27|20
5|Bryzgalov Ilya|PHO| 354 |13|6|17|22|31
6|Stamkos Steven|TB| 28 |0|0|2|3|9
7|Kane Patrick|CHI| 17 |0|1|0|2|4
8|Brodeur Martin|NJ| 16 |0|0|2|0|6
9|Anderson Craig|COL| 10 |1|0|0|0|0
10|Marleau Patrick|SJ| 10 |0|0|0|3|1
11|Backstrom Nicklas|WAS| 10 |0|0|0|2|4
12|Thornton Joe|SJ| 9 |0|0|0|1|6
13|Parise Zach|NJ| 7 |0|0|1|0|2
14|Green Mike|WAS| 5 |0|0|0|1|2
15|Chara Zdeno|BOS| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
16|Keith Duncan|CHI| 3 |0|0|0|0|3
17|Doughty Drew|LA| 2 |0|0|0|0|2
17|Gaborik Marian|NYR| 2 |0|0|0|0|2
17|Kopitar Anze|LA| 2 |0|0|0|0|2
17|Lidstrom Nicklas|DET| 2 |0|0|0|0|2
17|Rask Tuukka|BOS| 2 |0|0|0|0|2
17|St.Louis Martin|TB| 2 |0|0|0|0|2
23|Lundqvist Henrik|NYR| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
23|Nabokov Evgeni|SJ| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
23|Pronger Chris|PHI| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
23|Stastny Paul|COL| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
23|Vokoun Tomas|FLA| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
23|Weber Shea|NSH| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
23|Zetterberg Henrik|DET| 1 |0|0|0|0|1

 

[pnep]

2009-2010 Norris Trophy Voting

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
1|Keith Duncan|CHI| 1096 |76|37|14|2|1
2|Green Mike|WAS| 831 |34|46|23|15|9
3|Doughty Drew|LA| 662 |15|28|46|25|11
4|Lidstrom Nicklas|DET| 303 |4|9|16|28|36
5|Pronger Chris|PHI| 168 |2|3|9|22|16
6|Boyle Dan|SJ| 116 |1|2|5|15|22
7|Weber Shea|NSH| 96 |1|2|6|12|6
8|Chara Zdeno|BOS| 88 |0|3|7|6|14
9|Ehrhoff Christian|VAN| 21 |0|1|0|3|5
10|Streit Mark|NYI| 15 |0|1|1|1|0
11|Suter Ryan|NSH| 13 |0|0|2|1|0
12|Rafalski Brian|DET| 12 |0|0|2|0|2
13|Seabrook Brent|CHI| 10 |0|0|2|0|0
14|Gonchar Sergei|PIT| 8 |0|1|0|0|1
15|Myers Tyler|BUF| 6 |0|0|0|0|6
16|Phaneuf Dion|TOR| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
16|Schultz Jeff|WAS| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
18|Jovanovski Ed|PHO| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
18|Phillips Chris|OTT| 1 |0|0|0|0|1
18|Volchenkov Anton|OTT| 1 |0|0|0|0|1

 

[pnep]

2009-2010 Vezina Trophy Voting

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Miller Ryan|BUF| 126 |23|3|2
2|Bryzgalov Ilya|PHO| 79 |5|16|6
3|Brodeur Martin|NJ| 32 |1|6|9
4|Nabokov Evgeni|SJ| 9 |1|1|1
5|Anderson Craig|COL| 9 |0|2|3
6|Lundqvist Henrik|NYR| 6 |0|1|3
7|Rask Tuukka|BOS| 3 |0|1|0
8|Howard Jimmy|DET| 2 |0|0|2
8|Kiprusoff Miikka|CGY| 2 |0|0|2
10|Halak Jaroslav|MTL| 1 |0|0|1
10|Luongo Roberto|VAN| 1 |0|0|1

 

[pnep]

2009-2010 Calder Trophy Voting

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
1|Myers Tyler|BUF| 1178 |94|29|5|3|1
2|Howard Jimmy|DET| 778 |24|45|34|16|5
3|Duchene Matt|COL| 755 |12|42|53|25|1
4|Rask Tuukka|BOS| 339 |2|14|19|31|33
5|Tavares John|NYI| 303 |0|2|18|50|49
6|Bergfors Niclas|ATL| 30 |0|0|2|2|14
7|Benn Jamie|DAL| 20 |0|0|1|2|9
8|Del Zotto Michael|NYR| 15 |0|1|0|0|8
9|Hedman Victor|TB| 6 |0|0|1|0|1
10|Kane Evander|ATL| 6 |0|0|0|1|3
11|Boychuk Johnny|BOS| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
11|Franson Cody|NSH| 3 |0|0|0|1|0
13|Galiardi T.J.|COL| 3 |0|0|0|0|3
13|Van Riemsdyk James|PHI| 3 |0|0|0|0|3
15|Bozak Tyler|TOR| 2 |0|0|0|0|2

 

[pnep]

2009-2010 Frank Selke Trophy Voting, Top 20 Finishers

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
1|Datsyuk Pavel|DET| 688 |37|26|21|8|7
2|Kesler Ryan|VAN| 655 |36|26|15|10|8
3|Staal Jordan|PIT| 528 |24|17|21|19|7
4|Toews Jonathan|CHI| 408 |17|15|19|10|8
5|Bergeron Patrice|BOS| 185 |8|8|4|8|5
6|Zajac Travis|NJ| 73 |0|5|3|6|5
7|Richards Mike|PHI| 71 |2|3|4|1|7
8|Marleau Patrick|SJ| 65 |0|2|5|6|8
9|Zetterberg Henrik|DET| 61 |2|1|4|3|5
10|Backstrom Nicklas|WAS| 51 |1|3|1|4|3
11|Koivu Mikko|MIN| 50 |0|4|3|2|1
12|Parise Zach|NJ| 44 |0|1|5|3|3
13|Burrows Alex|VAN| 43 |0|3|3|2|1
14|Fiddler Vernon|PHO| 42 |0|1|3|4|8
15|Alfredsson Daniel|OTT| 38 |0|2|2|4|2
16|Mcclement Jay|STL| 37 |2|0|0|4|5
17|Fisher Mike|OTT| 35 |1|1|2|1|5
18|Betts Blair|PHI| 24 |1|2|0|0|0
19|Hanzal Martin|PHO| 24 |0|1|2|2|1
20|Hossa Marian|CHI| 22 |0|1|2|1|2

 

[pnep]

2009-2010 Lady Byng Trophy Voting, Top 20 Finishers

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th
1|St.Louis Martin|TB| 971 |74|25|6|6|8
2|Richards Brad|DAL| 449 |1|39|20|18|12
3|Datsyuk Pavel|DET| 438 |17|15|21|15|13
4|Kopitar Anze|LA| 232 |3|10|14|15|17
5|Lidstrom Nicklas|DET| 215 |10|7|9|4|9
6|Marleau Patrick|SJ| 159 |3|5|14|5|9
7|Sedin Henrik|VAN| 140 |6|6|6|2|2
8|Alfredsson Daniel|OTT| 134 |2|5|9|10|4
9|Parise Zach|NJ| 97 |5|2|3|5|3
10|Selanne Teemu|ANA| 70 |2|3|4|2|3
11|Sedin Daniel|VAN| 67 |2|2|4|3|4
12|Kane Patrick|CHI| 55 |0|1|3|9|6
13|Sutter Brandon|CAR| 47 |1|1|0|8|6
14|Brunette Andrew|MIN| 41 |2|0|3|1|3
15|Stamkos Steven|TB| 26 |1|1|1|1|1
16|Gonchar Sergei|PIT| 20 |1|0|2|0|0
17|Rafalski Brian|DET| 17 |0|1|0|3|1
18|Iginla Jarome|CGY| 14 |1|0|0|1|1
19|Miller Ryan|BUF| 14 |0|2|0|0|0
20|Bergeron Patrice|BOS| 13 |0|1|1|0|1

 

[pnep]

2009-2010 Jack Adams Award Voting

#|Coach|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Tippett Dave|PHO| 291 |57|2|0
2|Trotz Barry|NSH| 60 |0|17|9
3|Sacco Joe|COL| 51 |0|14|9
4|Babcock Mike|DET| 38 |2|7|7
5|Murray Terry|LA| 26 |0|5|11
6|Clouston Cory|OTT| 21 |0|6|3
7|Ruff Lindy|BUF| 13 |0|2|7
8|Quenneville Joel|CHI| 10 |0|2|4
9|Vigneault Alain|VAN| 7 |0|2|1
10|Boudreau Bruce|WAS| 7 |0|1|4
11|Lemaire Jacques|NJ| 4 |0|1|1
12|Bylsma Dan|PIT| 1 |0|0|1
12|Julien Claude|BOS| 1 |0|0|1
12|Maurice Paul|CAR| 1 |0|0|1

 

[pnep]

2009-2010 NHL ALL-STAR TEAM VOTING RESULTS

CENTER

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Sedin Henrik|VAN| 536 |77|49|4
2|Crosby Sidney|PIT| 500 |55|74|3
3|Stamkos Steven|TB| 73 |0|6|55
4|Backstrom Nicklas|WAS| 66 |0|3|57
5|Thornton Joe|SJ| 5 |0|0|5
6|Kopitar Anze|LA| 3 |0|0|3
7|Datsyuk Pavel|DET| 2 |0|0|2
8|Richards Mike|PHI| 1 |0|0|1
8|Staal Eric|CAR| 1 |0|0|1
8|Toews Jonathan|CHI| 1 |0|0|1

LEFT WING

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Ovechkin Alex|WAS| 644 |127|3|0
2|Sedin Daniel|VAN| 153 |1|40|28
3|Marleau Patrick|SJ| 151 |1|39|29
4|Parise Zach|NJ| 101 |1|21|33
5|Kovalchuk Ilya|NJ| 84 |0|22|18
6|Semin Alexander|WAS| 16 |0|1|13
7|St.Louis Martin|TB| 7 |1|0|2
8|Heatley Dany|SJ| 6 |0|2|0
9|Kane Patrick|CHI| 4 |0|1|1
9|Nash Rick|CLB| 4 |0|1|1
11|Zetterberg Henrik|DET| 4 |0|0|4
12|Iginla Jarome|CGY| 3 |0|1|0
13|Malkin Evgeni|PIT| 1 |0|0|1
13|Sharp Patrick|CHI| 1 |0|0|1

RIGHT WING

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Kane Patrick|CHI| 397 |49|41|29
2|St.Louis Martin|TB| 348 |49|29|16
3|Gaborik Marian|NYR| 289 |20|50|39
4|Heatley Dany|SJ| 82 |7|5|32
5|Iginla Jarome|CGY| 13 |2|0|3
6|Alfredsson Daniel|OTT| 13 |1|2|2
7|Stamkos Steven|TB| 10 |2|0|0
8|Perry Corey|ANA| 9 |0|2|3
9|Ovechkin Alex|WAS| 5 |1|0|0
10|Semin Alexander|WAS| 5 |0|1|2
11|Marleau Patrick|SJ| 3 |0|1|0
12|Kovalchuk Ilya|NJ| 2 |0|0|2
12|Ryan Bobby|ANA| 2 |0|0|2
14|Nash Rick|CLB| 1 |0|0|1

DEFENSE

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Keith Duncan|CHI| 604 |112|14|2
2|Green Mike|WAS| 524 |80|38|10
3|Doughty Drew|LA| 433 |39|75|13
4|Lidstrom Nicklas|DET| 242 |12|44|50
5|Pronger Chris|PHI| 155 |5|30|40
6|Boyle Dan|SJ| 149 |5|23|55
7|Weber Shea|NSH| 83 |3|15|23
8|Chara Zdeno|BOS| 70 |3|13|16
9|Myers Tyler|BUF| 18 |0|0|18
10|Seabrook Brent|CHI| 12 |1|1|4
11|Ehrhoff Christian|VAN| 10 |0|1|7
12|Schultz Jeff|WAS| 8 |1|1|0
13|Streit Mark|NYI| 8 |1|0|3
14|Rafalski Brian|DET| 8 |0|1|5
15|Suter Ryan|NSH| 7 |0|2|1
16|Jovanovski Ed|PHO| 3 |0|1|0
17|Gonchar Sergei|PIT| 2 |0|0|2
17|Niedermayer Scott|ANA| 2 |0|0|2
19|Campbell Brian|CHI| 1 |0|0|1
19|Enstrom Tobias|ATL| 1 |0|0|1
19|Greene Andy|NJ| 1 |0|0|1
19|Phillips Chris|OTT| 1 |0|0|1
19|Yandle Keith|PHO| 1 |0|0|1

GOALTENDER

#|Player|Team| PTS |1st|2nd|3rd
1|Miller Ryan|BUF| 598 |105|24|1
2|Bryzgalov Ilya|PHO| 371 |20|85|16
3|Brodeur Martin|NJ| 136 |6|16|58
4|Nabokov Evgeni|SJ| 13 |0|2|7
5|Kiprusoff Miikka|CGY| 12 |0|0|12
5|Rask Tuukka|BOS| 12 |0|0|12
7|Howard Jimmy|DET| 11 |0|0|11
8|Vokoun Tomas|FLA| 8 |0|2|2
9|Lundqvist Henrik|NYR| 4 |0|1|1
10|Anderson Craig|COL| 4 |0|0|4
11|Quick Jonathan|LA| 2 |0|0|2
11|Rinne Pekka|NSH| 2 |0|0|2
13|Halak Jaroslav|MTL| 1 |0|0|1

 

[gary69]

So Marleau narrowly got more combined AS team votes than Daniel Sedin.

 

[vippe]

So Marleau narrowly got more combined AS team votes than Daniel Sedin.

It's like that every year... a forward should only be allowed to get votes on one position.. it's just.. annoying. Remember Zetterberg got votes on all positions a few years back..

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Notes about the Hart Voting...

H. Sedin: received 130/133 total votes
Ovechkin: received 132/133 total votes
Crosby: received 129/133 votes
Miller: received 116/133 votes

Miller is understandable, but how do the 3 finalists not even receive at least a 5th place vote from certain people?

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

if anyone wants to see the complete voting (selke and byng above are just top 20), they are here: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/pu...on-MVP-and-other-revealing-NHL?urn=nhl,250861

 

[MaxPac88]

Someone gave Laraque a 5th place vote for the Lady Byng!

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Vokoun got no votes for Vezina? They shouldn't let GMs vote for anything.

Third in save percentage on a team that gives up all kinds of great chances and 10 other goalies get votes.

Brodeur got 6 first place votes. What a joke.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Vokoun got no votes for Vezina? They shouldn't let GMs vote for anything.

Third in save percentage on a team that gives up all kinds of great chances and 10 other goalies get votes.

Brodeur got 6 first place votes. What a joke.

Vokoun's team finished 28th in the standings.

Brodeur got 1 first place vote, 6 2nd place votes, and 9 3rd place votes. So only one GM was totally out to lunch.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Vokoun's team finished 28th in the standings.

Brodeur got 1 first place vote, 6 2nd place votes, and 9 3rd place votes. So only one GM was totally out to lunch.

Isn't this award based individual performance rather than team performance?

I'm sorry, getting old and need to be checked. Indeed Brodeur only got 1 first place vote. But you don't think the guys voting him 2nd were out to lunch? Come on, you watched him play this year. He wasn't close to being the 2nd best goalie in the league.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Isn't this award based individual performance rather than team performance?

I'm sorry, getting old and need to be checked. Indeed Brodeur only got 1 first place vote. But you don't think the guys voting him 2nd were out to lunch? Come on, you watched him play this year. He wasn't close to being the 2nd best goalie in the league.

Around New Years, I would say that Brodeur was very slightly behind Ryan Miller as the best goalie in the league. Then he had arguably the worst 2 month stretch of his career - on both sides of the Olympics. Then he was one of the best goalies in the entire league for the last month of the year (as Miller slumped a bit). So it's really hard to judge. The 2 month stretch really drags him down, and I do think that Miller should have been the consensus #1.

Bryzgalov was great, but I think he got a bit overrated due to the surprise factor of Phoenix actually being good. If you believe in advanced statistics, there is a very good case that Brodeur was the 2nd best goalie in the league last season. I saw statistics with a few weeks left in the season (so they could have changed) that showed Brodeur faced a significantly higher shot quality than Bryzgalov and therefore had a lower expected save %. In fact, his save % was only marginally behind Bryzgalov.

Either way, the right goalie won.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Around New Years, I would say that Brodeur was very slightly behind Ryan Miller as the best goalie in the league. Then he had arguably the worst 2 month stretch of his career - on both sides of the Olympics. Then he was one of the best goalies in the entire league for the last month of the year (as Miller slumped a bit). So it's really hard to judge. The 2 month stretch really drags him down, and I do think that Miller should have been the consensus #1.

Bryzgalov was great, but I think he got a bit overrated due to the surprise factor of Phoenix actually being good. If you believe in advanced statistics, there is a very good case that Brodeur was the 2nd best goalie in the league last season. I saw statistics with a few weeks left in the season (so they could have changed) that showed Brodeur faced a significantly higher shot quality than Bryzgalov and therefore had a lower expected save %. In fact, his save % was only marginally behind Bryzgalov.

Either way, the right goalie won.

Exactly where do those numbers come from?

Who (and how) do you determine shot quality?

Funny argument to support Brodeur. Hasn't that always been an argument against him, that for almost all of his career he faced significantly lower quality shots than anyone else?