Confirmed Signing with Link: [PIT] Patric Hörnqvist re-signs with Pittsburgh (5 x $5.3M AAV)

[belair]

The deal will hurt in the later years but this is their window and guys like Horny don't come around very often. Decent deal.

 

[Seanaconda]

You would build terrible hockey teams sir.

Hornqvist is a player that wins you cups. Much like a younger Kunitz. You need a guy with jam to compliment superstars. Oh ya, which players in the league can play the same or slightly lesser role than Horny?

Simmons? Maybe Schenn?

Who else?

Ya, long ass list. Great signing. Clears space for Crosby and Malkin

If Tampa wins is kunitz at five cups ? That's pretty insane

 

[davemess]

Seems like a pretty reasonable deal to me. If you look at what some of the other 20 goal, 50 point wingers got last summer then Hornqvist's deal makes sense.

Alex Radulov: 5 years, $6.25

T.J. Oshie: 8 years, $5.75

 

[Richard]

If Tampa wins is kunitz at five cups ?

Yes.

And Kuntiz at a 1m playing on our third line I'm all for. The problem was he wasn't going to be used that way.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

I love Hornqvist. Because I hate him when he plays my team, I wish someone would take the 2 minute penalty and knock that smug punk on his butt.

Wait Pittsburgh is the #1 PP? #1? Are you sure?

Well, check if the ref is watching first. Them hit him the nads. Or on the ankles, there's no padding there. You're allowed to break ankles in the NBA, but can't do that in the NHL? And they say NBA is for sissies.

Anyway, great deal, I thought JR got ripped off when they traded Neal for Patric, but this has worked out fantastic for them. Term is for too long, but JR is like the U.S. Congress, he wasn't brought in to fix long term problems, he's going to make the best of the present and then cash his chips and ride off into the sunset. He'll be in retirement/dead long before global warming turns his beach front property into primetime Atlantis property.

 

[Seanaconda]

Yes.

And Kuntiz at a 1m playing on our third line I'm all for. The problem was he wasn't going to be used that way.

Crosby wants two of them anyways. All the good players go to malkin cuz he can change his play style

 

[Riptide]

You don't become a leader in innovation by following the same template as everyone else

No... you just follow your own template - like winning. And then winning again.

 

[Riptide]

If Tampa wins is kunitz at five cups ? That's pretty insane

Yep. And he's currently the only active player with 4 cups.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

If Hornqvist is the best player on your 2nd line, is that an elite 2nd line?

If Hornqvist is the best player on your 2nd line, is your team likely to be a contender?

Simply put, he's not a building block, he's a complimentary piece. And complimentary pieces shouldn't be making more than 2 million per

You disagree? Great!

We have differing opinions on how teams should go about managing their cap space

There aren't any teams in the NHL that can say they have the best player on the second line if a Geno Malkin is on the second line. Your always going to be 2nd best you could put practically anyone there and your going to be 2nd best.

You logic makes no sense. CMON MAN

 

[Seanaconda]

There aren't any teams in the NHL that can say they have the a best player on the second line if a Geno Malkin is on the second line. Your always going to be 2nd best you could put practically anyone there and your going to be 2nd best.

You logic makes no sense. CMON MAN

Third line with kessel what a team. But yeah they have 2 of the best three players of this decade

Tampa vs pens is gonna be amazing but Vegas will probably somehow win the cup

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Did they release the yearly term yet?

 

[Shoofyou10]

Maybe a little bit too long for a little bit too much money but I wont complain. The window is now and he's one of the heart and soul players for the team. And he most certainly would have gotten more money and just as long (or longer) term on the open market. Overall I'm happy about it.

 

[Tomas W]

Wings fans, more than any other fanbase, should understand Hornqvist's value and why he can still be productive well into his late 30s.

If you are thinking of Holmström; Yeah, but he did slow down in production in the later years too, it got worse and worse. That said, Hörnqvist is actually a better skater than Holmström was, and havent taken as much beating as poor Homer did. Maybe Hörnqvist scoring will hold up.

And yeah I dont watch many Penguins games, unless its SC finals.

 

[Tweed]

you know you have to gtfo when hockey "fans" start comparing Vanek to Hornqvist.

See... that's the problem with UPnP and DHCP. ANYBODY can get on the internet these days.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

If you are thinking of Holmström; Yeah, but he did slow down in production in the later years too, it got worse and worse. That said, Hörnqvist is actually a better skater than Holmström was, and havent taken as much beating as poor Homer did. Maybe Hörnqvist scoring will hold up.

And yeah I dont watch many Penguins games, unless its SC finals.

Holmstrom had his best seasons at 33 and 34, potting 29 and 30 goals. Then had another couple 20+ goal seasons after that.

Much like Holmstrom, Hornqvist won't have to worry about his puck skills and skating eroding and hurting his game as he ages. Those skills never were a part of what makes him so effective.

So I'm fairly confident he will be quite effective into his mid 30s just like Holmstrom.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

If Hornqvist is the best player on your 2nd line, is that an elite 2nd line?

If Hornqvist is the best player on your 2nd line, is your team likely to be a contender?

Simply put, he's not a building block, he's a complimentary piece. And complimentary pieces shouldn't be making more than 2 million per

You disagree? Great!

We have differing opinions on how teams should go about managing their cap space

Please personally contact every team in the Metro division other than the Pittsburgh Penguins and apply with them to be part of their management staff. Your concepts here would make any team you are on easier to be beaten by mine every year and I would welcome it with open arms to be on a division rival.

 

[Daeni10]

Please personally contact every team in the Metro division other than the Pittsburgh Penguins and apply with them to be part of their management staff. Your concepts here would make any team you are on easier to be beaten by mine every year and I would welcome it with open arms to be on a division rival.

How do his teams get to the cap floor though?

 

[deckercky]

How do his teams get to the cap floor though?

Every top line/top pairing player must be repeatedly signed to 1 year deals for max cap hit.

 

[Daeni10]

Every top line/top pairing player must be repeatedly signed to 1 year deals for max cap hit.

50 shades of EA sports NHL

 

[DesertPenguin]

Getting Brassard at 3M instead of 5M and the cap going up to 80M next year actually allows us to re-sign everyone next season. Horny was our only impactful UFA and while the RFAs (Rust, Sheahan, Oleksiak) will get raises, we have just enough to cover them. Window is still wide open.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Seems like a pretty reasonable deal to me. If you look at what some of the other 20 goal, 50 point wingers got last summer then Hornqvist's deal makes sense.

Alex Radulov: 5 years, $6.25

T.J. Oshie: 8 years, $5.75

I kept looking at the Oshie deal as a comparable. The fact that we got him at less money and for 3 years less term, what is not to like here?

 

[didimentionlarseller]

as long as he can stay reasonably healthy throughout the term this is a great deal for the Pens - he could have clearly gotten more going UFA with another team

 

[Extra Texture]

As much as any single Pens player from the last few years, 72 has been responsible for this team elevating its game to a championship caliber. It was impossible to ignore the change in the team's attitude and work ethic after this guy got here. The guy is heart and guts personified, and is already one of my favorite Pens ever.

I'm sure Tom Hanks already posted it, but it doesnt matter

 

[Tomas W]

Holmstrom had his best seasons at 33 and 34, potting 29 and 30 goals. Then had another couple 20+ goal seasons after that.

Much like Holmstrom, Hornqvist won't have to worry about his puck skills and skating eroding and hurting his game as he ages. Those skills never were a part of what makes him so effective.

So I'm fairly confident he will be quite effective into his mid 30s just like Holmstrom.

He was that old? Ive managed to forgot. Anyway, always some risk with long contracts, but of course they calculate with that.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

If you are thinking of Holmström; Yeah, but he did slow down in production in the later years too, it got worse and worse. That said, Hörnqvist is actually a better skater than Holmström was, and havent taken as much beating as poor Homer did. Maybe Hörnqvist scoring will hold up.

And yeah I dont watch many Penguins games, unless its SC finals.

As Jiggy pointed out, Holmstrom had his most productive seasons when he was like 33 and 34 years old. He was still a 20 goal scorer up until like age 37 or 38. So even if he "slowed down", he was still effective as a net front guy and still produced.

The same applies to Hornqvist. He's not, and never will be, an elite scorer. What he is is a guy who is a menace in front of the net, a battler along the boards, and a guy who gives 100% every single night. I don't think any of that changes within the time-frame of this extension.

People are acting like the Pens signed him until he was in his 40s. Hornqvist will only be turning 36 when the contract is up.