Marner or Hischier

[Snippit]

Hischier's not even in Marner's tier. Marner has 90-100 point potential whereas Hischier has about 60-70 point potential (AKA what Marner did in his rookie year)

Damn I just went back to read and got a good laugh.

Thanks for posting this - I now know not to take your posts seriously ever again.

You literally would need to never watch Hischier play to come to the conclusion that Hischier is not even in the same tier.

 

[Garthinater]

It's Mitch Marner, but I am not shocked he is losing this poll because most people voting don't realize Marner plays with Matt Martin and that is almost entirely the reason he has struggled, before he got put with Martin he had 4 points in 5 games

since he got put with Matt Martin nothing, Gee I wonder why

Matt Martin is the reason why

Stop making excuses. Marner doesn't need them. The reason he was playing with martn was because Mitch was playing awful hockey.

 

[Snippit]

here is what I know 1 point is the difference between them and Nico never had to Carry Matt Martin, I actually like Martin but putting him with Marner doesn't help Marner

Marner, plain and simple, just wasn't playing well for a long stretch of games.

 

[DrJustice]

It's Mitch Marner, but I am not shocked he is losing this poll because most people voting don't realize Marner plays with Matt Martin and that is almost entirely the reason he has struggled, before he got put with Martin he had 4 points in 5 games

since he got put with Matt Martin nothing, Gee I wonder why

Matt Martin is the reason why

You really gotta question Babcock for letting Matt Martin convince him to drop Marner down in the lineup.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Yeah you really must be watching different games than I am...I think Hischier is better now and going forward.

But even ignoring the eye test, Nico has 14 points in 18 games in his D+1...while Marner wasn't in the NHL at the time. This isn't a knock on Marner, but Nico Hischier has to be one of the most underrated first overall picks in recent memory.

Does anybody else, other than LEAFANFORLIFE23, actually think Marner is going to end up better than Hischier?

I am going to hazard a guess: every Maple Leafs fan. Heck, throw a Leafs jersey over a rock and they'd vote that too.

Nico up to 15 points in 19 games, a pace of 65 points. Tonight, even if the Devils got shellacked by the Jets 5-2, Nico lead his team with 7 shots (his 7th shot, a tip, stopped dead on the goal line, allowing Will Butcher the easy tap-in for his 1st ever NHL goal). All this while sporting his usual excellent 200 ft game.

 

[BruinLVGA]

here is what I know 1 point is the difference between them and Nico never had to Carry Matt Martin, I actually like Martin but putting him with Marner doesn't help Marner

Ppg: Hischier 0.79... Marner 0.65. Then watch Hischier play from time to time... Looks like a 10 year veteran out there. Complete 200 ft game at age 18, with barely over a season of experience on smaller ice.

If Marner got demoted for a bunch of games, it must because he was too good, right?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Ppg: Hischier 0.79... Marner 0.65. Then watch Hischier play from time to time... Looks like a 10 year veteran out there. Complete 200 ft game at age 18, with barely over a season of experience on smaller ice.

If Marner got demoted for a bunch of games, it must because he was too good, right?

Well you should know how good Marner is, he and JVR beat your Bruins twice, pretty much by themselves

 

[DrJustice]

Well you should know how good Marner is, he and JVR beat your Bruins twice, pretty much by themselves

Not a big accomplishment if we are being honest.

So by your logic, Marner is better because he has beaten the Bruins more than the Nico has. What a bust.

 

[firstemperor]

Extremely close, give me Nico only because of the C factor.

Could go either way in the future. I think Marner's playmaking/vision is better than any single skill Nico has though.

They are both excellent skaters. I have a hard time seeing either of them not become very good players in this league- they both already are, but they both have another few levels they may reach.

 

[DFF]

Hischier and it's not close

 

[DFF]

Some teams have to EARN their 1st OA picks, some get gifted them courtesy of Edmonton. I'd like to see Hischier get close to 65 points first before this conversation starts

Actually we can start now since they both have the same point total and one guy is almost 2 yrs younger

 

[6ix]

Voted Marner. If Hischier puts up over 60 points this season, I’ll change my vote to him since he would of done it in the year he was drafted.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I'd take Hischier overall, but I think Marner might be better offensively

 

[PucksOnNet]

Ppg: Hischier 0.79... Marner 0.65. Then watch Hischier play from time to time... Looks like a 10 year veteran out there. Complete 200 ft game at age 18, with barely over a season of experience on smaller ice.

If Marner got demoted for a bunch of games, it must because he was too good, right?

We get it, you're from Switzerland and you're infatuated with a Swiss hockey player.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Hischier is clearly the better two-way player and I dont feel Marner is that much better offensively, if at all.

Id take Hischier for that reason

 

[Mr Hockey]

It's easily Hischier, sorry leaf fans.

 

[Hokinaittii]

Hischier due to speed and better two way game.

 

[Leronziia]

I think I commented when this thread first came into existence.

I'll comment again:

Give me Nico Hischier all day.
The guy is a wizard and plays a complete game at this tender age.

 

[BruinLVGA]

We get it, you're from Switzerland and you're infatuated with a Swiss hockey player.

I am infatuated with facts. Here's a fun one: in 2017-18 Nico Hischier... Age: 18... 19 games, 15 points, -2, 16:09 TOI. In 2016-17, Auston Matthews... Age: 19... 19 games, 13 points, -4, 17:28 TOI.
Matthews? Major talent & superstar from minute 1. Hischier? Meh.
Never change, Toronto fans, never change.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Hischier and it's not close

Ding, ding, ding... We have a winner!

 

[leafsfan1234]

Marner will finish this season with ~70 points. Hischier will finish with ~55 points.

 

[DaPhazz]

Thread so far:

Leafs fans : ''Marner easy''

All the other fanbases : ''Nico easy''

 

[DaPhazz]

It's Marner until proven otherwise and Nico hasn't proven a thing yet

Well, this season, Nico has proven that he's better than Marner

 

[ACC1224]

I think I commented when this thread first came into existence.

I'll comment again:

Give me Nico Hischier all day.
The guy is a wizard and plays a complete game at this tender age.

The poll question is who is better Offensively. Hard not to take Marner if following the criteria of the poll.
Over all play is a lot closer, would depend on the need of the Team and currently it seems like both Teams have the right guy.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Marner will finish this season with ~70 points. Hischier will finish with ~55 points.

I would take that action for Hischier. Age 18, barely one season on smaller NA ice, and before the season began everyone was saying 30-40 points would be a good year. Now folks are talking 55? Sounds good to me.
At the same age, Marner was still in junior, Matthews was in Switzerland ... and instead Hischier plays 1C for the Devils, 3rd in the East. I think it's an unadulterated, unabashed SUCCESS for Hischier so far.