Rumor: Kevin Hayes not signing with Hawks

[Hawknut 1]

Perhaps someone could make a new thread, Fire Joel Quenneville part III. Welcome back Hawknut.

As far as Hayes goes, if he doesnt sign, hes a turd.

Thank you ChiGuySez! Good to see you here!

 

[Hawkaholic]

I don't know why I have to spell this out but I guess I do.
Q was fired by St.Louis and hired by Colorado. After being dumped in St. Louis there were many inquires and Colorado picked him up.
After being dumped in Colorado there wasn't ONE team that was interested in him except Chicago. IF YOU can find me one link stating otherwise please share. You won't find one since there isn't.

I don't really care, just shows that a lot of teams pass up on great coaches frequently.

 

[hawksrule]

I don't really care, just shows that a lot of teams pass up on great coaches frequently.

I find Q neither great nor terrible, but what examples can you give of teams frequently passing up on great coaches?

 

[Hawkaholic]

I find Q neither great nor terrible, but what examples can you give of teams frequently passing up on great coaches?

Ken Hitchcock didnt have a job for a year +, Dave Tippet was fired in Dallas, Pat Quinn went without a job for 3 years, etc,etc

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Fairly common for coaches to take some time off, whether or not they wanted to, after getting canned. Just because nobody was immediately interested in hiring Q after his time in Colorado doesn't mean nobody was interested, period. There's always uncertainty that your last gig could've very well been your last gig, though.

Plus, call me crazy, but seems pretty obvious that management wanted to promote Q to head coach the second they hired him as a scout, and were just waiting for an opportune time to get rid of Savard to to do so, despite what may be officially said on the subject. Had that not been the case, I would've more expected him to go after an assistant coaching gig, an AHL head coaching position, or just sited on the outside looking in waiting for a phone call.

 

[Kurtosis]

Fairly common for coaches to take some time off, whether or not they wanted to, after getting canned. Just because nobody was immediately interested in hiring Q after his time in Colorado doesn't mean nobody was interested, period. There's always uncertainty that your last gig could've very well been your last gig, though.

Plus, call me crazy, but seems pretty obvious that management wanted to promote Q to head coach the second they hired him as a scout, and were just waiting for an opportune time to get rid of Savard to to do so, despite what may be officially said on the subject.

I think this is commonly accepted reasoning behind what went down.

 

[Blue Liner]

Yeah, everyone in that organization knew what was going on when Q was brought into the organization.

 

[MarkGio]

Anywho, I went searching for an update on the Hayes situation and I found this:

http://blackhawkup.com/2014/07/25/open-letter-kevin-hayes/

This is bordering on begging, no?

 

[Bubba88]

after this happened Q has won 2 SCs as HC. Would the same have happened with Savard?

 

[Hawknut 1]

I don't really care, just shows that a lot of teams pass up on great coaches frequently.

It doesn't show anything since Q isn't a great coach.

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

It doesn't show anything since Q isn't a great coach.

Yeah Q just totally lucked his way into being the 3rd winning-est coach in NHL history.

 

[Hawkaholic]

It doesn't show anything since Q isn't a great coach.

I'll take your opinion with a grain of salt.

 

[AmericanDream]

Anywho, I went searching for an update on the Hayes situation and I found this:

http://blackhawkup.com/2014/07/25/open-letter-kevin-hayes/

This is bordering on begging, no?

wow, who are these "blackhawk fans"????

I like Kayes a lot, but that is pretty bad.

 

[ChiGuySez]

wow, who are these "blackhawk fans"????

I like Kayes a lot, but that is pretty bad.

Andrew Gregory. Dont know if he wrote it but looks like it. Blogger wannabe.

 

[x Tame Impala]

I don't know what that website is but I hope it has nothing to do with the Blackhawks officially.

That article is the same as an insecure boyfriend desperately trying to latch on to a girlfriend he's afraid of losing. Pa-thet-ic

 

[unbridledid]

So if Hayes doesn't sign it ends up being to Winnipeg: Buff and Ladd and the Hawks get Clendening, Morin, and a 2nd..... ouch....

 

[Hawkaholic]

So if Hayes doesn't sign it ends up being to Winnipeg: Buff and Ladd and the Hawks get Clendening, Morin, and a 2nd..... ouch....

Yeah, not that great...but..

You are forgetting there was a couple of cap dumps in the trade from our end (Eager, Sopel), and Buff and Ladd weren't then, what they are now.

 

[BobbyJet]

Yeah, not that great...but..

You are forgetting there was a couple of cap dumps in the trade from our end (Eager, Sopel), and Buff and Ladd weren't then, what they are now.

Buff, though he has his good moments, is still overrated, however it was obvious to me that Ladd was destined to be the player he is now. It was a poor decision by Stan to let Ladd go but he did have some tough choices and almost got it right. Let's hope he handles this latest cap crunch a little better. IE. don't trade Leddy.

 

[ChiGuySez]

Byfuglien got into Luongos head. The one person Luongo didnt want in front of him. Amazing how much criticism Buff got for only showing up in the playoffs compared to Bickell.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Buff, though he has his good moments, is still overrated, however it was obvious to me that Ladd was destined to be the player he is now. It was a poor decision by Stan to let Ladd go but he did have some tough choices and almost got it right. Let's hope he handles this latest cap crunch a little better. IE. don't trade Leddy.

If memory serves me right, I don't believe we had much of a choice with Ladd. It was either him or Hammer gone.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Buff, though he has his good moments, is still overrated, however it was obvious to me that Ladd was destined to be the player he is now. It was a poor decision by Stan to let Ladd go but he did have some tough choices and almost got it right. Let's hope he handles this latest cap crunch a little better. IE. don't trade Leddy.

So keep Ladd and get rid of who?

Hammer
Seabrook
Sharp
Bolland (At time Bolland was a lot more important and was one of the stars of 2010 run)

In hindsight trading Bolland would have been better option but then who knows if we win in 2013 (Bolland was worthless but had a few good moments in playoffs especially of course game 6)

 

[Hawkaholic]

So keep Ladd and get rid of who?

Hammer
Seabrook
Sharp
Bolland (At time Bolland was a lot more important and was one of the stars of 2010 run)

In hindsight trading Bolland would have been better option but then who knows if we win in 2013 (Bolland was worthless but had a few good moments in playoffs especially of course game 6)

Yeah, everyone can be an expert now and say "Bolland, AINEC!!" ..but at the time he was pretty close to being one of the major reasons we won that year. Shutting down the Sedins, and Thornton and he had 16pts in 22GP playing against the best every night.

Meanwhile, Ladd had 6pts in 19GP and we didn't even really need him to get by Philly to win it all.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

More of the same...

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/stor...s-unlikely-sign-chicago-blackhawks-says-agent

 

[DontToewzMeBro]

The Blackhawks will be compensated with the No. 24 overall pick in the second round of the 2015 NHL draft if Hayes becomes a free agent.

 

[Adrian05]

The Blackhawks will be compensated with the No. 24 overall pick in the second round of the 2015 NHL draft if Hayes becomes a free agent.

What if it becomes a UFA and then sign with the Hawks?