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I'd do Eakin + a 2ndIf Edmonton was really trying to move him what would they want from Dallas?
I'd do Eakin + a 2ndIf Edmonton was really trying to move him what would they want from Dallas?
A player who can play in the top 9 with a large amount of cap-savings. Thinking Faksa or B. Ritchie would be interesting, we'd probably be willing to eat the Niemi buy-out cost for Faksa.
Eakin+Ritchie as a base for Eberle?
The Oilers would likely require a pick or expansion exempt fwd. Ritchie is a bit redundant with guys like Kassian and Slepyshev on the roster and we would only be able to protect either Ritchie or Kassian likely losing one of them to Vegas.
Eakin + ANA 1st for Eberle
Eakin (500K) retained + DAL 2nd for Eberle
I'd do Eakin + a 2nd
how about
to dal
ebs 1.5 mil retained
rights to pitlick
rights to yakimov
to edm
3rd overall
lehts
rights to nichushkin
how about
to dal
ebs 1.5 mil retained
rights to pitlick
rights to yakimov
to edm
3rd overall
lehts
rights to nichushkin
Oh my god this is bad. Dallas is not moving the 3rd pick in a deal for eberle
If they could get that, I'd say run with it. I actually think they will be making a minor deal for a guy like Sheahan around ED. Would be the best guy they could get to play that role. Send Vegas a 2nd to take him from DET and be done with it. He'd be the best fit.
I am not a fan of Eakin, unlike some other Oiler fans, for me he subtracts value from the trade as I think we could spend his cap-hit more wisely elsewhere. I'm more in favor of taking on Niemi as a buy-out as his cap hit would be spread across 2 years just like Eberle's deal which is 2 years. I wouldn't do Ritchie + Niemi for Eberle, but I would do Faksa + Niemi for Eberle; if Faksa is a non-starter then I'd need more value on top of the Ritchie frame work, but something more tangible than a mid-pick which would likely mean a larger deal with both sides adding more.Eakin+Ritchie as a base for Eberle?
how about
to dal
ebs 1.5 mil retained
rights to pitlick
rights to yakimov
to edm
3rd overall
lehts
rights to nichushkin
How about Eberle gets 1 more season as an Oiler? Cap isn't a problem next season. Eberle is a guaranteed 20 goals/50 points no matter what line he's on. That has value to Edmonton.
No. Probably from both sides. We are moving Eberle to save cap space, not retain on him.
How about Eberle gets 1 more season as an Oiler? Cap isn't a problem next season. Eberle is a guaranteed 20 goals/50 points no matter what line he's on. That has value to Edmonton.
Both sides? Are you serious? The Stars get shafted here.
Of course they do, but why are the Oilers trading for picks at this point? We aren't rebuilding anymore. It isn't the value that is the issue for Edmonton, but the pieces involved that don't make sense. And the salary retention on Eberle.
You can say the chances are zero until your blue in the face but they aren't zero. Chia saying Eberle might be back next year, so what? What else is he supposed to say. The entire NHL knows he wants to unload Eberle and his salary. And, you won't have to pay more to get an equal player to Eberle. If Vegas signs Eberle, you could sign Verby for 2 mill, and he was a better all around player than Eberle last year. Soft wingers are easy to replace but hard to sell when they are way over paid.
Because players get more expensive as time goes on and teams that want to continue to win need prospects to trade and prospects to step in to fill in for players they lose to the salary cap. And the Oilers' prospect cabinet is probably bottom 10 currently in terms of forwards.
The Oilers won't--or at least shouldn't--retain on Eberle. It effects the second year of his deal, which is problematic for the Oilers.
We do need prospects, but we can't sacrifice our roster for them at this point. This trade makes sense for Edmonton if absolutely no deals involving roster players who improve our team are out there. But I think they are, so would pass on it.
Trading Eberle isn't sacrificing the roster. The RW options available to fill in that hole short-term are plentiful. Justin Williams being my primary choice.
The player-for-player deals you're talking about are very rare in a sense that it's very difficult to meet the needs both on the ice and on the balance sheet, which is why big name players very rarely get traded for one another. That $6m tag is very challenging to move, regardless of the player attached to it.
You are not going to get a better player than Jordan Eberle in a Jordan Eberle trade.
No. Probably from both sides. We are moving Eberle to save cap space, not retain on him.
For the 3rd overall pick + Nichuskin (who we could maybe convince to come play next to McDavid on RW) I gladly would retain 1.5 million per year.
Not what we want ideally but value is so much in our favour you just can't turn it down.
For the 3rd overall pick + Nichuskin (who we could maybe convince to come play next to McDavid on RW) I gladly would retain 1.5 million per year.
Not what we want ideally but value is so much in our favour you just can't turn it down.
Both sides? Are you serious? The Stars get shafted here.
I agree that has value to Edmonton. But it isn't the cap this year that's the problem--it's next year.
The Oilers moving him this year can off-set his cap for a year to maximize his trade value. Next season they won't have that luxury, nor may they have leverage in any deal when their cap situation gets murky. If they keep Eberle until next summer, they may lose him or another valuable Oiler for less than what they are actually worth. The Oilers have options this summer. Chiarelli can get creative.