FA/Trade Thread 14-15 Season V.14 - For Sale: All of the Leafs Pending UFA's and More

[Oskar The Groucho]

Leafs got better than expected value for Kaberle/Beauchemin/Versteeg, and we traded them well before the deadline.

Islanders got terrible value for Vanek, and they waited right up until the deadline.

I dont think we're in line to make a ton more value by waiting until the end.

We arent and should of start the bidding 3 weeks ago.. Sadly Nonis who knows what he is doing..

 

[SprDaVE]

Dreger seems to think that TB needs/wants D and Toronto could help them out.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

isn't that the key word. unless the deals are low ball? we don't know, what if they are. if they were just shipped out it would be all "is that the best we could have gotten?"

We may a high offer, how do we know we don't? Why was Burke always able to pull off Steals a month prior to the deadline? Versteeg, Beauchemin, Kaberle, Berri. ect...

We lose Franson for nothing if he gets hurt, isn't this bad asset mgt?

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Dreger seems to think that TB needs/wants D and Toronto could help them out.

Dreger seems to think and say a lot of things.

 

[Oskar The Groucho]

Dreger seems to think that TB needs/wants D and Toronto could help them out.

Yes and Dreger is touting people to come watch the trade deadline on TSN.. HE has been posting RUMORS for 2 weeks now daily.. Still nothing has happened

 

[mydnyte]

That would be among the stupidest things we could do. Remember the Lindros trade? The Lindros side never won a cup, but the other side sure did...

thats just how tired i am of retools ...and the only reason the flyers didnt win a cup was the GM was too stubborn to get a half decent goalie.

 

[Oskar The Groucho]

Should we put annotations with dreger now like D2 or D4? cus its getting to that level

 

[Oskar The Groucho]

thats just how tired i am of retools ...and the only reason the flyers didnt win a cup was the GM was too stubborn to get a half decent goalie.

There was no salary cap then END OF DICUSSSION

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Steve Staios just said on TSN, that sitting Franson out because he is banged up is not an option, even with the stong possibility of a trade coming. Yep, he said this.

 

[beleaf67]

Steve Staios just said on TSN, that sitting Franson out because he is banged up is not an option, even with the stong possibility of a trade coming. Yep, he said this.

what !!??

 

[Daisy Jane]

Steve Staios just said on TSN, that sitting Franson out because he is banged up is not an option, even with the stong possibility of a trade coming. Yep, he said this.

what Steve Staios said was that it doesn't go through the coaches mind.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

what Steve Staios said was that it isn't coming that goes into the coaches mind.

He also said, if he can play, they are playing him. Especially with Dion already hurt.

 

[mydnyte]

There was no salary cap then END OF DICUSSSION

that has nothing at all to do with the discussion ...but, thanks for that intelligent bit of insight ...i feel enlightened

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

So has the Phaneuf interest fallen off too?

 

[Daisy Jane]

He also said, if he can play, they are playing him.

exactly. and he obviously can play. that's the coaches decision. if he wasn't healthy, he'd be on IR , because the coaches would shut him down. and if that were the case, chances are he wouldn't be able to be traded anyway

holy smokes.
some of you people are just acting like all the tradeable players should be wrapped in cotton batting and not move a twitch until they get traded.

 

[Judas Tavares]

Awfully quiet. When Burke was here, he usually got ahead of the game and made his deals in advanced of the deadline.

This is one of the most "no grey area" parts of our fan base. One of the many.

With Burke he "wouldn't shut his yap and only spewed hot air"
With Shanahan "Whyyyy won't he say something he's too quiet cmon Shanny sayyyy something"

It really kills me when I see either one said, and it would be worse if the same people said both.

 

[Daisy Jane]

So has the Phaneuf interest fallen off too?

Dreger (so take your pinch of salt) said there is still interest, and will probably pick up again once his hand gets better.

 

[mydnyte]

oh my ...Eklunds latest blog is funny!!

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New Rumor Blog>
Arizona Strong Interest in Kessel? Kane Price High Despite.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

This is one of the most "no grey area" parts of our fan base. One of the many.

With Burke he "wouldn't shut his yap and only spewed hot air"
With Shanahan "Whyyyy won't he say something he's too quiet cmon Shanny sayyyy something"

It really kills me when I see either one said, and it would be worse if the same people said both.

I have 100x more confidence in Burke exacting max return on a deal than Nonis and the Nonis/Shanahan deals that are on record. All we have is past deals to gauge this.

 

[p.l.f.]

latest I heard:
Phaneuf - Ana LA Dal (Garrioch)
Franson - Nashv (T Star)

Phaneuf to Dallas would be interesting

 

[The Winter Soldier]

So has the Phaneuf interest fallen off too?

He's hurt, so that would kill any deal until he is given a clean bill of health. The object lesson here that I have been preaching.

 

[Judas Tavares]

I have 100x more confidence in Burke exacting max return on a deal than Nonis and the Nonis/Shanahan deals that are on record. All we have is past deals to gauge this.

Agreed. Some horrid signings, poor drafting. But those deals. I would love Dubas, Shanahan and Hunter's vision with Burke as a trade adviser in the background.

 

[Gary Nylund]

exactly. and he obviously can play. that's the coaches decision. if he wasn't healthy, he'd be on IR , because the coaches would shut him down. and if that were the case, chances are he wouldn't be able to be traded anyway

holy smokes.
some of you people are just acting like all the tradeable players should be wrapped in cotton batting and not move a twitch until they get traded.

Bingo!! In theory sure we could sit out Winnik, Santa, Franson (and why not Kessel, Phaneuf, Bozak etc.) because, hey they might get hurt and then we can't trade them. Plus we don't want to win anyway right? In fact, that's what all teams should do who can't make the playoffs ...

It doesn't work that way people for many reasons. One of these reasons is that it's the coaches job to win games.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Agreed. Some horrid signings, poor drafting. But those deals. I would love Dubas, Shanahan and Hunter's vision with Burke as a trade adviser in the background.

I love the Leafs and I want to be positive, but I am really worried that we will be fleeced in trades with this Mgt team. The most I am hoping for is we get fair return. No taking on more salary and no giving up picks for starters.

 

[Budsfan]

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