FA/Trade Thread 14-15 Season V.14 - For Sale: All of the Leafs Pending UFA's and More

[The Winter Soldier]

most of the bigger deals happen earlier, or at least more talented player deals (ie Phanuef) ...the smaller guys go on the deadline to try to create a bidding war, and up that 3rd round offer to a 2nd, or a 3rd and 4th

Deadline days of late have been duds of late. The best deals are in advance of the hard date Mar 2. We will see what happens, I tend to believe it is better to do something now. An injury to Santa, Franson, Winnik will kill any return we get.

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

Hypothetically, if the Sabres offered their 2015 1st round pick + Grigorenko for Rielly + Loov + Biggs, would you consider it?

 

[BigWilly]

Hypothetically, if the Sabres offered their 2015 1st round pick + Grigorenko for Rielly + Loov + Biggs, would you consider it?

In a freakin second.

That's essentially Rielly for Grigorenko and McEichel.

 

[Hunter74]

If a trade doesn't happen this week i doubt anything other than Santa, Winnik and Franson gets moved and those guys would just be for picks or obscure prospect.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Hypothetically, if the Sabres offered their 2015 1st round pick + Grigorenko for Rielly + Loov + Biggs, would you consider it?

Two chances at McDavid? Yes

 

[pspot]

Hypothetically, if the Sabres offered their 2015 1st round pick + Grigorenko for Rielly + Loov + Biggs, would you consider it?

i said in the mcdavid thread
the leafs really only have two pieces, rielly and nylander

so even if you give up those to get mcdavid they really aren't that further behind.

 

[mydnyte]

Deadline days of late have been duds of late. The best deals are in advance of the hard date Mar 2. We will see what happens, I tend to believe it is better to do something now. An injury to Santa, Franson, Winnik will kill any return we get.

i agree ...sooner is always better than later, and on deadline day make unexpected people available, and move them too.

 

[Warden of the North]

Hypothetically, if the Sabres offered their 2015 1st round pick + Grigorenko for Rielly + Loov + Biggs, would you consider it?

Yes.

 

[mydnyte]

Hypothetically, if the Sabres offered their 2015 1st round pick + Grigorenko for Rielly + Loov + Biggs, would you consider it?

I'd add Kessel to try to even it out some for them, and even then THEY might not accept
...your package doesnt even get Buffalo talking about Only the 1st at all.

 

[mydnyte]

i said in the mcdavid thread
the leafs really only have two pieces, rielly and nylander

so even if you give up those to get mcdavid they really aren't that further behind.

if i am Buffalo, i dont take that.

Buffalo is this draft, and a goalie away from being a long lasting contender

 

[The Winter Soldier]

i agree ...sooner is always better than later, and on deadline day make unexpected people available, and move them too.

I am worried the longer this goes, one of the players we have to move will be hurt. If this happens, then it was a collective failure of this Mgt staff of not foreseeing this was possible. Something is better than nothing. Playing russian roulette that a player may get hurt. Just too cute for me.

 

[TheCLAM]

Leafs are getting close on a couple deals

 

[Oskar The Groucho]

Leafs are getting close on a couple deals

Been hearing that for 5 weeks now

 

[pspot]

Been hearing that for 5 weeks now

what you don't count the ashton/broll deal

 

[mydnyte]

I am worried the longer this goes, one of the players we have to move will be hurt. If this happens, then it was a collective failure of this Mgt staff of not foreseeing this was possible. Something is better than nothing. Playing russian roulette that a player may get hurt. Just too cute for me.

my bigger fear is they arent moved because they are trying to resign them, and curse us to mediocrity

 

[mydnyte]

what you don't count the ashton/broll deal

...dont you need to actually get something back for it to be a deal?

 

[ULF_55]

Word is that several teams have inquired about center Tyler Bozak.

•Mark Divver: Maple Leafs GM Dave Nonis and Coyotes GM Don Maloney were at the Bruins-Canadiens game last night.

http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2015/02/09/rumors-bruins-sharks-kings-leafs-and-oilers/

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

I have literally no idea what most of the players on the Leafs are worth

 

[theIceWookie]

Deadline days of late have been duds of late. The best deals are in advance of the hard date Mar 2. We will see what happens, I tend to believe it is better to do something now. An injury to Santa, Franson, Winnik will kill any return we get.

It's a tradeoff. You risk the injury issue but you also potentially take away the option of a bidding war and you take away leverage from yourself. Like a few years ago when Buffalo grabbed a 1st for Gaustad. That doesn't happen until the last minute and you know a team wants a guy and you put the squeeze on them.

 

[pspot]

...dont you need to actually get something back for it to be a deal?

roster spots which is odd unless you had something else lined up

but i guess when you have a lame duck gm that will cause some delays

 

[Jerkini]

I'd add Kessel to try to even it out some for them, and even then THEY might not accept
...your package doesnt even get Buffalo talking about Only the 1st at all.

Two steps back, one step forward. Or in this case, three steps back.

McDavid would be in the exact same situation that Kessel is in. Except he's 18 years old and he won't quite be on Kessel's offensive level just yet. Which is going to turn this town on him like a pack of savage rats. I don't think we're in a position to make a trade like that.

edit-- Assuming Buffalo would even accept. Which I doubt they would.

 

[PlietscherDassel]

I have literally no idea what most of the players on the Leafs are worth

Thats what makes it difficult to trade them.

 

[theIceWookie]

I am worried the longer this goes, one of the players we have to move will be hurt. If this happens, then it was a collective failure of this Mgt staff of not foreseeing this was possible. Something is better than nothing. Playing russian roulette that a player may get hurt. Just too cute for me.

That's kind of living in fear don't you think?

You have to risk it to win big sometimes. Something might be better than nothing but you can't let yourself give into fear and let other teams take advantage of that. It's a losing situation long term. You've shown other teams they can pressure you and take advantage of you with a little pressure. I don't like that honestly.

It's a risk, and sometimes you have to take them. Sometimes you don't. If the deals being offered aren't worthwhile (hockey trades that don't improve our future at all, or low draft picks) I don't see any reason to give in right now.

 

[Oskar The Groucho]

Dave Nonis better start making something happen. Like what he is doing? Why go to multiple games now? Shouldnt you of done this earlier in the season, or has this loosing streak altered his perception of something we as fans have known and seen for 4 years now?

 

[theIceWookie]

Hypothetically, if the Sabres offered their 2015 1st round pick + Grigorenko for Rielly + Loov + Biggs, would you consider it?

Without a doubt.