Confirmed with Link: Does anyone care about Dzingel signing? (He did. 2 yrs, 1.8 AAV post #106)

[Sens of Anarchy]

https://www.silversevensens.com/2017/7/19/15999058/ryan-dzingel-asks-for-1-95m-in-arbitration-ottawa-senators-ask-for-1m

On the team’s end, the comparisons aren’t great. Players making exactly $1M are mostly washed-up veterans looking to prove they have something left (Michael Cammalleri, Scott Hartnell, Dominic Moore, Ales Hemsky) or young-ish players who haven’t done much (Nick Cousins, Tyler Pitlick). The team is basically saying show us one more year that you can stay at the NHL level, and then we’ll talk. Kind of like what the team did with Mike Hoffman.

For Dzingel’s ask, he comes in around players like Zack Kassian, Vladislav Namestnikov, and Joonas Donskoi. Last season, Dzingel scored 32 points in 81 games, while those other three scored 24 in 79, 28 in 74, and and 17 in 61 respectively. Dzingel and Donskoi are a month apart in age. Based on production and age, I’d say Dzingel’s ask looks a little more reasonable.

Donskoi's numbers

2015-16 San Jose Sharks NHL 76 11 25 36
2016-17 San Jose Sharks NHL 61 6 11 17

2 years @1.9AAV

Dzingel

2015-16 Ottawa Senators NHL 30 3 6 9
2016-17 Ottawa Senators NHL 81 14 18 32

 

[DrunkUncleDenis]

My son is the only one in the house that is upset about Dzingel not resigning... only because he handed him a game puck during the warmups...

Oh he'll be on the team one way or another.

 

[GWNR]

For some reason I think Dzingel is going to have a very good year. I think they'd be wise to offer him a 2 or 3 year deal. He may want to gamble on himself like Hoffman did though.

Dzingel is very good at getting to the net, it's his finishing that is the problem. I do think he can improve that.

We don't have too many guys who get into open space and beat the D the way he does.

 

[operasen]

Starts in 45, so I'm guessing no agreement. Probably take 90 minutes.

 

[edguy]

Starts in 45, so I'm guessing no agreement. Probably take 90 minutes.

They then have 48 hours after hearing before the decision where they can reach a deal

 

[Smash88]

Settled 2 years, 1.8 AAV

Per Friedman

Edit:



1.5M in the first year and 2.1M in the second

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Reasonable deal. Not a steal but fair for both sides.

 

[Smash88]

Reasonable deal. Not a steal but fair for both sides.

Yeah a little higher than I expected. Not deal breaking or anything but I wonder how he got closer to his ask than the teams?

 

[MaxTheLimit]

It's a fine deal. I'm hoping for a 35-40pt year. His shooting percentages and number of high quality chances could make that very possible.

 

[Tuna99]

He's getting traded. Ottawa doesn't like to lose arbitration deals.

Col: Dzingel, Logan Brown, Hamburglur, Gabriel Gagne, Shane Bowers
Ott: Matt Duchesne

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

He's getting traded. Ottawa doesn't like to lose arbitration deals.

Col: Dzingel, Logan Brown, Hamburglur, Gabriel Gagne, Shane Bowers
Ott: Matt Duchesne

Ottawa didn't lose an arbitration deal, they settled prior to a ruling.

Also that deal is some next level ******* for Colorado.

 

[GWNR]

Very good deal.

 

[Micklebot]

Ok with in on a 2 year deal. Happy he's signed.

 

[GWNR]

LW depth:
Hoff
Mac
Smith
Burrows
Dzingel

RW depth:
Stone
Ryan
White
Pyatt

C depth:
Turris
Brass
Pageau
Thompson
[Smith]
[White]

Forwards seem pretty locked in. Not going to be too many position battles for the main roster unless they plan to send White down and keep another guy up which may result in Paul battling with some others.

 

[Stylizer1]

Not far off from 2m.

 

[Caeldan]

Ugh. Not a fan. Means next contract number starts over 2M.

I'd rather have taken him to arb, don't think he had a case for his ask

 

[edguy]

Settled 2 years, 1.8 AAV

Per Friedman

Edit:



1.5M in the first year and 2.1M in the second

Not a fan of that 2nd year. They must think he's gonna have a Hoffman esque rise to go up that much..

I remain in the Trade Dzingel boat though

 

[SensBrawler]

A bit more than I expected, but I don't really have a problem with it. If he could just improve his finishing ability he could definitely be a top six forward. We'll see how that goes.

He'll be a UFA at the end of the deal btw.

 

[Knave]

Ugh. Not a fan. Means next contract number starts over 2M.

I'd rather have taken him to arb, don't think he had a case for his ask

He'll be an UFA, won't he? I assume we just let him walk unless he turns into a star (unlikely).

 

[Caeldan]

I thought he had another year. On my phone so didn't check.

I stand corrected. He's a UFA so structure doesn't matter.
Number is still high imo though.

 

[TheNewEra]

i hope this is a hossa situation and a trade is coming

 

[operasen]

Agree with consensus. A little high but done now so lets see what washes out. I can see him included in a package as well, as others have stated.

Wideman + Dzingel, is the starting point for me. The add depends on the return.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Overpaid by 100k.

 

[edguy]

Number is still high imo though.

Agreed. He went to arb itd be a couple hundred thousand cheaper..

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Agreed. He went to arb itd be a couple hundred thousand cheaper..

I'm not sure it would be worth a contentious and stressful situation with a young player who may have a future in the org. Arbitration situations can get messy.