Confirmed with Link: Does anyone care about Dzingel signing? (He did. 2 yrs, 1.8 AAV post #106)

[Stylizer1]

Haven't seen a thread about Dzingle's new contract yet so was just wondering?

I think he is going to get 3 years 6m.

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[Super Cake]

Lol at the title.



Edit: It got fixed, but it was still a funny title.

 

[edguy]

He will get no where near 2Mil... The guy hasn't proved jack.. Hoffman got 1 year 2Mil from arb after a 48point season..

Dzingel got 32 points, has a pretty bad defensive game and was a healthy scratchy a ton down the stretch and in the playoffs.. If he gets to Arb he'll likely get around 1.1Mil for 2 years in Arb, if it gets there. Wouldn't give him more term yet..

 

[IranCondraAffair]

People cared a lot more when they thought MacArthur was done.

Personally, I like what he brings, but I can see why some people are frustrated.

He's like Greening, in that he can play up and down the lineup, but fails to bury enough scoring chances and lacks overall offensive talent. Meanwhile his points will get him an inflated salary.

 

[Stylizer1]

Lol at the title.



Edit: It got fixed, but it was still a funny title.

That's the nickname I gave him.

Would make an awesome gif if he could score on his breakaways.

 

[Stylizer1]

He will get no where near 2Mil... The guy hasn't proved jack.. Hoffman got 1 year 2Mil from arb after a 48point season..

Dzingel got 32 points, has a pretty bad defensive game and was a healthy scratchy a ton down the stretch and in the playoffs.. If he gets to Arb he'll likely get around 1.1Mil for 2 years in Arb, if it gets there. Wouldn't give him more term yet..

He is 25 so you want to protect his RFA status. Salaries are all going up so 3rd liners would be around that price. They also did protect him in the expansion draft so that gives him some leverage.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I could see him being awarded somewhere close to 1.5 in a hearing. Let's say its 1.35; Do the Sens pick 1 year or 2? UFA in 2.

 

[edguy]

I could see him being awarded somewhere close to 1.5 in a hearing. Let's say its 1.35; Do the Sens pick 1 year or 2? UFA in 2.

2. Just in case he breaksout (which I doubt).. but at the very least ya have a speedy 13th forward for 1.35Mil

 

[Samboni]

What do you pay a guy that is all flash and no finish? $975000 is my guess.

 

[Super Cake]

I personally would rather have kept Methot over Dzingle, but that is just me.

 

[Fandlauer]

I personally would rather have kept Methot over Dzingle, but that is just me.

I think that's pretty much everybody.

 

[edguy]

I personally would rather have kept Methot over Dzingle, but that is just me.

Yeah everyone had this opinion. But VGKs ask to protect Methot was crazy..

 

[Stylizer1]

I think that's pretty much everybody.

Except Dorion, the guy who had to make the decision.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Except Dorion, the guy who had to make the decision.

Nice strawman. The choice wasn't "give up Methot or give up Dzingel."

 

[SensBrawler]

Why is everyone talking about Methot vs Dzingel?

If you're gonna debate about who we should have exposed, it should be two of Pageau/Brassard/Smith or Ceci instead of Methot. Of course management would have protected Methot over Dzingel, but that wasn't the choice. Do people really still not know the expansion rules?

 

[Countdown0]

Except Dorion, the guy who had to make the decision.

Except that Dzingel isn't a defenseman and Methot isn't a forward, so its not as though Dzingel took Methot's spot on the protected list.

Phaneuf took Methot's spot on the protected list, which meant that if we wanted to protect Methot we either had to expose THREE of the forwards we did protect (not just Dzingel) or expose one of Karlsson (lol, yeah right), or Ceci.

Now, I'm not saying Dorion has been perfect since taking charge, but you can't blame him for losing Methot. The cost to protect Methot wasn't just "give us Dzingel". By many accounts, it was more along the lines of: our 1st round pick + Logan Brown + they will still pick one of our players (and no, they wouldn't have taken Boro...).

I'm pretty sure if the price to get Vegas to not take Methot was what Dallas actually traded to get him (a 2nd round pick in 2020 and a 7th round goaltending prospect) Dorion would have paid it without any hesitation.

If anyone is to blame for us losing Methot, its the League itself for giving Vegas to much power in the expansion draft.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Haven't seen a thread about Dzingle's new contract yet so was just wondering?

I think he is going to get 3 years 6m.

No.

 

[Stylizer1]

sorry

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I personally would rather have kept Methot over Dzingle, but that is just me.

 

[Super Cake]

Wasn't there another option we could have gone when it comes to protecting our guys?

Wasn't there an option to protect 4 forwards and 4 defenseman?

I personally would have just protected Karlsson, Methot, Phaneuf and Ceci for our defenseman and Hoffman, Turris, Stone and Pageau/Brassard for our forwards.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

That was essentially his rookie season and he got like 15 goals. I still have hope for him

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Wasn't there another option we could have gone when it comes to protecting our guys?

Wasn't there an option to protect 4 forwards and 4 defenseman?

I personally would have just protected Karlsson, Methot, Phaneuf and Ceci for our defenseman and Hoffman, Turris, Stone and Pageau/Brassard for our forwards.

Where does Dzingel come into it then?

 

[Super Cake]

Where does Dzingel come into it then?

What do you mean.

I am just saying i would rather have gone the 4 defenseman and 4 forward route and risk losing a guy like Dzingle rather than losing a top 4 defenseman, which are hard to replace nowadays.

 

[Knave]

Not really. He's 25 so I don't see major room for growth.

 

[SensBrawler]

Wasn't there another option we could have gone when it comes to protecting our guys?

Wasn't there an option to protect 4 forwards and 4 defenseman?

I personally would have just protected Karlsson, Methot, Phaneuf and Ceci for our defenseman and Hoffman, Turris, Stone and Pageau/Brassard for our forwards.

Of course and I understand why some people fell that way. I'm just saying I don't see what it has to do with Dzingel. I think if we went the 4 and 4 route, one of Pageau/Brassard/Smith would have been selected, not Dzingel. The whole reason we went with 7 and 3 was to protect those three guys, while Dzingel was just a guy with decent upside who they decided to protect for that last forward spot.

IMO if you're gonna debate who should have been exposed over Methot, it should be Pageau/Brassard/Smith, not Dzingel.