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Gone, hopefully. Or replace Lovejoy with Moore.
Neither Lovejoy nor Moore should be on our starting 6 when healthy
Moore is not a long term player for us
Devils 2017-18 team discussion (player news and notes) III
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Neither Lovejoy nor Moore should be on our starting 6 when healthy
Moore is not a long term player for us
Zajacs Bowl Cut
Lets Go Baby
Shaw's contract is terrible and he is a scumbag. We should want no part of that guy.
Hischier and Hughes
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Montreal can afford to retain and he’s still a good third liner. Plus you need grit in the playoffs - Im sorry but this team as currently constructed will get man handled if they make the playoffs and play any teams other than fresh entries such as ourselves who sre super young (a Carolina for example)
I'd target a RW as well, but I don't see Shaw as much of an upgrade.
In general we have #'s, both on D, and RW, it's a matter of upgrading the talent.
Better Call Sal
Salnalysis
If we could find a way to steal him the way we've stolen Hall, Palmieri and Johansson in the past, the only player I'd want to try and acquire would be Hoffman.
I don't think that we can meet the asking price, though.
I don't think that we can meet the asking price, though.
AfroThunder396
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The desire to rid ourselves of the last couple years of Zajac's contract needs to be balanced by what he brings defensively and in terms of veteran leadership, which will be important as we jockey for a playoff spot and (hopefully) play in them.
Not to mention that contract is basically untradeable.
Not to mention that contract is basically untradeable.
SteveCangialosi123
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Hoffman would be awesome. Wonder what it would take to get done...Santini++? I'd consider it. We have Severson and Vatanen to play top 4 minutes on the right side and Butcher can play both sides.
Hall - Nico - Palmieri
Hoffman - Zacha - Wood
Johansson - Boyle - Palmieri
Coleman - Zajac - Noesen/Gibbons
AfroThunder396
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I'm not clear what Zajac is providing to the team right now that isn't already being provided by other players.
Just faceoffs at this point, really. It's not like we don't have other veterans, other guys that can play defense, and other PKers.
Just faceoffs at this point, really. It's not like we don't have other veterans, other guys that can play defense, and other PKers.
Devils Dominion
Now we Plummet
Did you attend last night?
There was what seemed like an entire section of Devils fans in the lower level to the right of the Buff bench.
Entire lower bowl was FILLED with red. good to see.
NJDevils17
Going Up?
...what does Zajac bring in terms of veteran leadership that other guys can’t or don’t already? He’s good on face offs so that’s why he was on the power play but that was doing more bad than good.
Devils Dominion
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Always good to see Red & Black reppin on the road.
Lots of our fans in Ontario attend games in Buff.
Plus the college students from NJ who go to school at one of the Buff areas schools.
A good buddy attended SUNY Buffalo and went to every Devils game up there for 4 years during our glory seasons.
Better Call Sal
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The thing with Zajac is, right now, his contract isn't a detriment to the team. We have tons of cap space and have more money coming off the books in Clowe, Moore, Hayes and Stafford this year/Lovejoy, Boyle, Mojo and Kinkaid the following year. Only guys needing raises during that time are Wood, Zacha, Noesen (I guess), Coleman (I guess), Santini, Butcher and Mueller. I can't imagine any of them really breaking the bank with their performances (maybe Wood and Butcher?).
You can limit his minutes, let him play his usual solid defense, PK and win faceoffs and let it be for the time being.
By this time, you can then explore any avenue to get out of the contract that will be much more feasible than right now. As it is currently, he's not getting dealt and they're certainly not buying him out with the number of years left. After those 2 years, you then have Hall's extension along with Nico and Bratt's ELCs ending so that's the real time that a decision has to be made.
It already appears they're starting to reduce his role, which is what we want to see.
You can limit his minutes, let him play his usual solid defense, PK and win faceoffs and let it be for the time being.
By this time, you can then explore any avenue to get out of the contract that will be much more feasible than right now. As it is currently, he's not getting dealt and they're certainly not buying him out with the number of years left. After those 2 years, you then have Hall's extension along with Nico and Bratt's ELCs ending so that's the real time that a decision has to be made.
It already appears they're starting to reduce his role, which is what we want to see.
Stephen Gionta
Boston College > Boston University
Devils should be "all in" for the Cup in the next two seasons after this one.
Hall Hischier Bratt and Vatanen all due pay raises in summer of 2020
Hall Hischier Bratt and Vatanen all due pay raises in summer of 2020
AfroThunder396
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Unfortunately no, we had a sudden cold snap and 4" of snow overnight so I decided to stay home and watch the game with a large hot cocoa instead.
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Did Hall seriously get fined? Are you kidding me? It took like 5 player injuries for our team before the league finally took action against an offender. Hall's hit was a penalty and dumb, but that's why he got two minutes. You'd think watching the replays to decide to assess a fine they would see the massive dive that came with the hit.
Gerard
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I dont know about all-in but with the amount of talent shining young nowadays we may see a lot of teams able to maintain Detroit-like teams for long periods of time. Mainly the teams rebuilding or close to being done rebuilding now.
As for all in the only reason Id say we push hard the next few season is for Schneider and his age.
Darkauron
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Greene is worse than Lovejoy and Moore, and no way in hell is Santini better than Severson or Mueller.
Both players are better than Greene and younger, especially Moore who is 7-8 years younger.
Moore is more of an asset than Greene is. One, he is younger. Two, he is a much better skater and can skate himself out of trouble when needed. Three, he is better offensively. His defensive mistakes are no worse than any f*** up Greene has made this year and for some reason some people here still think Greene is a serviceable top 4 dman.
Greene is the most useless defenseman on the team. He is old, slow, small and weak and has zero offense to his game.
The only reason he hasn't been benched is because of the C on his chest.
Hoffman would be awesome to have on this team. His speed and his shot would be great to add to the top 6, and he could work well with a guy like Zacha who looks pass first quite a lot.
He only provides faceoffs. Every thing else other forwards on this team are capable of doing better than him, including defense since Zajac is excruciatingly slow and that impacts how effective he is or isn't on defense.
That's fine. If they follow the Marchand scale, Hall should be suspended for exactly one shift of hockey.
Hischier and Hughes
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Greene is a very steady dman in his own end when he isn't overplayed. His breakout passes are trash though but we have an entire roster of guys who excel at moving the puck from the backend.
MartyOwns
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no trading defensive prospects for wingers. just, no.
and we would have to add a lot to the zajac-JVR deal. not worth it
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