C Nolan Patrick - Brandon Wheat Kings, WHL (2017, 2nd, PHI) II

[TheDoldrums]

It's getting comical at this point.

 

[Rebels57]

He probably has something going on mouth related and since the Philly media is foaming out the mouth to see him on the ice, they just wanted to shut them up for the day.

 

[VoidCreature]

How does a facial infection stop you from skating?

 

[Rebels57]

How does a facial infection stop you from skating?

If it is contagious OR causing him to take medication.

 

[NHL Dude 120]

How does a facial infection stop you from skating?

im no doctor but it probably saps energy, may impede focus and reaction time. Its pretty vauge tbh

 

[Critical13]

I wish him the best in his career but Flyer fans really need to temper their expectations of this kid.

 

[Tripod]

I wish him the best in his career but Flyer fans really need to temper their expectations of this kid.

Christ...most are saying he is likely a 60 point 2way C during his prime years with a few that could be higher than that. That's not unreasonable at all.

And people have used comparisons of a better defensive Monahan. Or a bit more physical Turris.

And mist have him starting on our #3 line that will be sheltered by Couts and Giroux.

Not sure what expectations you are referring to.

 

[HokieDude17]

What I can't figure out is why they even announced this. Dev camp is over. So anyone have a clue what they are trying to do here? Is he back home? Still in Philly? Not skating what, his summer training?

I believe he said in an interview at camp that he was staying in the area over the summer to train at the team's practice facility.

 

[TheKingPin]

Ok..I took your advice.

2005 Pittsburgh, Washington, Chicago
2006 Pitt, LA, Chicago
2007 St.L Chicago, Phoenix
2008 St.L, LA, CBus
2009 not showing up on google
2010 Nashville, LA, St.L
2011 Florida, Ottawa, NYI
2012 Minny, Florida, Edmonton
2013 Tampa, Buffalo, Anaheim
2014 Winnipeg, Montreal, Arizona
2015 AZ, Winnipeg, Buffalo

Nope....don't see your point. I see Stanley Cup Champs, runners up, final 4 teams, President Tropy winners and some others who are up and comers. Only a few who I would say have disappointed and ironically, they have had **** management...sorry Phoenix, Florida and NYI. But their fans likely agree at their mgt held them back.

Yea those teams are pretty good there. Something like 8 cups? I also see a ton of tank. For the flyers to get to this point this quickly without tanking is amazing no matter what. That can't be discredited. They are literally in the best position possible. Obviously anything can happen. But with the number of guys they have they are likely to have plenty that overachieve balancing out those that under achieve. It only gets better next year.

 

[Scorcho]

On the plus side, this facial infection has turned the thread back to Nolan, rather than the merits of the Flyer's (frankly scary) prospect pool.


On the less positive side,

this poor ****ing guy

 

[Willis88]

What I can't figure out is why they even announced this. Dev camp is over. So anyone have a clue what they are trying to do here? Is he back home? Still in Philly? Not skating what, his summer training?

The Philly media has been relentlessly taking to twitter to hype up him returning to the ice even if it's just to skate on his own. If they were more vague about keeping him off the ice, then the media would eat it up, as they always do here in Philly. I think they wanted to avoid saying it's an UBI, so that the media lays off him.

 

[grentthealien]

How is Patrick as a skater? I've heard various accounts of his skating throughout the years. Some saying that he was just average to below average and it was not a strong suit for him to more recent sources saying he is above average and has good speed. Which one is more true?

 

[The Burdened]

average to above average tbh
let's say this: his skating is neither really a positive attribute or a detriment.

 

[FlyTimmo]

Above average. He just lacks that burst you see in players like MacK and McDavid.

 

[Tripod]

How is Patrick as a skater? I've heard various accounts of his skating throughout the years. Some saying that he was just average to below average and it was not a strong suit for him to more recent sources saying he is above average and has good speed. Which one is more true?

Interesting you asked, Foggy14 just posted this on the Flyers boards:

Robby Glantz, a power skating coach who's worked with a lot of well-known pros, had an interesting segment on the NHL Network before the draft. He broke down the skating styles and abilities of Patrick and Hischier. He had this to say about Nolan:

"Patrick is a taller player and glides more on top of the ice, gets to top speed sneaky fast. You don't realize how fast he is. It's like a lot of mass in motion there and once he gets going, on top of the ice, a beautiful skater."

I think RebelBully's comparison to Tavares is a good one. Two other comparables that Glantz mentioned were Ryan Johansen and Ryan Getzlaf. That would be just fine.

Here's a link to the Glantz interview:

https://www.nhl.com/video/nhl-now-gl...912/c-52252403

 

[SI90]

Every time I've seen Patrick play I never felt his skating was a problem. There are guys who have had succes in the NHL who aren't as good skaters as Patrick.

Personally with the way today's NHL is I feel the best skaters have the edge but if your a high IQ player you don't have to be an amazing skater.

As an Islanders fan Tavares is a perfect example. While he has improved his skating leaps and bounds since entering the league, he's still not the best or most explosive skater. His hands and intelligence is what carries him. He's always 3 steps ahead and can read the game. Patrick might not be on the same level as a Tavares in that department but I feel he will play a similar game.

For the record, and they're both worthy players but I would have taken Patrick #1.

 

[Jtown]

Every time I've seen Patrick play I never felt his skating was a problem. There are guys who have had succes in the NHL who aren't as good skaters as Patrick.

Personally with the way today's NHL is I feel the best skaters have the edge but if your a high IQ player you don't have to be an amazing skater.

As an Islanders fan Tavares is a perfect example. While he has improved his skating leaps and bounds since entering the league, he's still not the best or most explosive skater. His hands and intelligence is what carries him. He's always 3 steps ahead and can read the game. Patrick might not be on the same level as a Tavares in that department but I feel he will play a similar game.

For the record, and they're both worthy players but I would have taken Patrick #1.

Skating will be the one skill that could take patrick from just another guy to a standout. I agree Today's nhl is all about skating.

 

[evnted]

How is Patrick as a skater? I've heard various accounts of his skating throughout the years. Some saying that he was just average to below average and it was not a strong suit for him to more recent sources saying he is above average and has good speed. Which one is more true?

good skater. his acceleration isn't completely there so he might seem slower at times than he really is but his top end speed is perfectly fine

 

[Tripod]

Also should be noted, when you play with a hernia all season, it's going to effect your skating.

 

[Magua]

good skater. his acceleration isn't completely there so he might seem slower at times than he really is but his top end speed is perfectly fine

Funny enough I'd switch them around. I think his acceleration can be really sneaky good but he can top out a little too quick, not that it isn't respectable/above average. But with how he reads the play and engages physically, he can have a real predatory first couple strides.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Every time I've seen Patrick play I never felt his skating was a problem. There are guys who have had succes in the NHL who aren't as good skaters as Patrick.

Personally with the way today's NHL is I feel the best skaters have the edge but if your a high IQ player you don't have to be an amazing skater.

As an Islanders fan Tavares is a perfect example. While he has improved his skating leaps and bounds since entering the league, he's still not the best or most explosive skater. His hands and intelligence is what carries him. He's always 3 steps ahead and can read the game. Patrick might not be on the same level as a Tavares in that department but I feel he will play a similar game.

For the record, and they're both worthy players but I would have taken Patrick #1.

Patrick should actually work out with Tavares, JT is a beast on those skates. Based on what I saw from Patrick in this rookie game, being a bull on his skates would go a long way for him.

 

[Tretyak 20]

I still think there's some draft recency bias going on here. I mean, Patrick is never going to be able to skate like McDavid, but will that prevent him from being an NHL star? No.

 

[93LEAFS]

His skating is fine. It won't be elite, or even high-end, but he's more than effective. He's not entering the league like Tavares, Kopitar, Monahan, Reinhart, and Draisaitl were, who had significant flaws to fix. I'd assume most realistic Flyers fans are hoping for a Toews like number 1 center that you can build a contender around, but probably isn't viewed as a top 5 center in the league without serious team based accomplishments.

I think he more likely falls into a Monahan type player, which is a solid 10-20C in the leauge who is good enough to build around.

 

[Tripod]

Patrick should actually work out with Tavares, JT is a beast on those skates. Based on what I saw from Patrick in this rookie game, being a bull on his skates would go a long way for him.

He was training with Toews a few weeks ago.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

He was training with Toews a few weeks ago.

That's good, it's smart to surround yourself with the better players in the league IMO. Even Taylor Hall worked with Tavares and Dawn Braid for power skating training.