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The team is better than they showed last night, but they are completely out of energy. They have been gassed since about early March and it's showing.
This is also a thing I keep coming back to.
The team is better than they showed last night, but they are completely out of energy. They have been gassed since about early March and it's showing.
The whole team seems to be out physicaled and didn't come to play.Carrier is just completely outmatched
I saw this too. Its amazing that the refs will allow some things and not others.Kunin just straight up taken down (leg sweep by Toews) well after moving the puck and no call.
Just trying to see how many times they can make Willy say keystone cops.I don't think I've ever seen an NHL game in which so many players for one team kept falling down constantly. Something wrong with our skates? The ice? Or was that the gameplan?
Could be. Maybe our guys are totally exhausted and at the point they can't move their feet without tripping?Just trying to see how many times they can make Willy say keystone cops.
I hate when fans say someone didn't come to play.The whole team seems to be out physicaled and didn't come to play.
Agreed. Also, when you get paid to stop pucks, you should probably start there.Well it was partially his fault. Ingram played solid in his relief
Ingram allowed 2 goals in 45 minutes.View attachment 540377
Was just referring to Rittich and Ingram who together in net at the same time could not stop the Avs
I agree with everything but the last comment. Hynes should have called a TO after the second goal to stop the momentum and fix the defense.Game plan for game 1 success:
- stay out of penalty box
- score 1st goal or at least do something to quiet the crowd. Transition the momentum.
- play physical against a more skilled team
This is not a rocket science strategy when you are the underdog.
Actual:
- take penalty 2 minutes in and after the whistle
- give up PP goal 11 seconds later
- give up 2 more goals several minutes later, including a SHG
- establish no forecheck and let opponent dictate 60 minutes
The team does not look physically ready for playoff hockey, and when your game plan folds 3 minutes in the game, it became impossible to recover.
He should have done the timeout and goalie pull a lot earlier, whether after goal 2 or 3, agreed. However, I have a feeling all it might have accomplished was make the result "less embarrassing". Or maybe it still wouldn't have, because then Colorado wouldn't have sat back as much as they were able to. Who knows.I agree with everything but the last comment. Hynes should have called a TO after the second goal to stop the momentum and fix the defense.
He did not think to do that because he isn't a good in game coach. His plans did not work out so well. The only thing he did right was pulling Rittich. That came after 5 goals and the game was already lost. He could have waited until period 2 and it would have been 7-0 by then.
I'm going to disagree with this.He should have done the timeout and goalie pull a lot earlier, whether after goal 2 or 3, agreed. However, I have a feeling all it might have accomplished was make the result "less embarrassing". Or maybe it still wouldn't have, because then Colorado wouldn't have sat back as much as they were able to. Who knows.
Anyway, fundamentally, no matter what our coach does, I feel like this team is simply not mentally ready for these playoffs. I don't believe it's possible for them to be "gassed" or physically unready. (Aside from one or two who are probably carrying in injuries). They train all year and haven't had a particularly onerous schedule. No moreso than any other team anyhow. The just are mentally completely unfocused and unable to execute cohesively right now, for whatever reason.
I can't imagine how the coaching staff could possibly fix this in just a few days, unfortunately. It has been going on long enough that if they didn't figure it out in the last month or more in time for last night's game, then there is not likely any miracle suddenly coming tomorrow.
The best we can probably hope for is the Avs getting a bit cocky or sloppy and Ingram standing on his head. And that's not much to go on either.
I'm going to disagree with this.
Carrier played 77 games this season, having a previous high of 19.
Fabbro played 66, his career high (64 previously).
Jeannot played 81, previous high 15.
Kunin played 82, previous high 63.
McCarron played 51, previous high 31.
Tomasino played 76.
Trenin played 80, previous high 45.
Especially for these younger guys, who aren't used to playing the full season slog game in and game out, their bodies are just going to run out of steam. Many are also probably nursing injuries. Even a fitness freak like Jeannot has looked completely out of gas over the last several weeks. Yes, other teams are similarly affected, but this team plays a style that wears us down and depletes us physically to a far greater extent than most of the other teams still in it at that point--we've played a "playoff style" game for much of the regular season, and it takes its toll.
It is also true they seem mentally scattered and have "lost the plot" systematically over the last several weeks. Not clear whether that is just mental fatigue, too much focus on individual production, trying to do "too much," or probably some mix of all of those.
I saw that “you” was the last person who replied in this topic and was worried I had been accidentally been posting in this forum.
yeah, I'd guess the mental wall has effected the younger guys as much as anything.I'm going to disagree with this.
Carrier played 77 games this season, having a previous high of 19.
Fabbro played 66, his career high (64 previously).
Jeannot played 81, previous high 15.
Kunin played 82, previous high 63.
McCarron played 51, previous high 31.
Tomasino played 76.
Trenin played 80, previous high 45.
Especially for these younger guys, who aren't used to playing the full season slog game in and game out, their bodies are just going to run out of steam. Many are also probably nursing injuries. Even a fitness freak like Jeannot has looked completely out of gas over the last several weeks. Yes, other teams are similarly affected, but this team plays a style that wears us down and depletes us physically to a far greater extent than most of the other teams still in it at that point--we've played a "playoff style" game for much of the regular season, and it takes its toll.
It is also true they seem mentally scattered and have "lost the plot" systematically over the last several weeks. Not clear whether that is just mental fatigue, too much focus on individual production, trying to do "too much," or probably some mix of all of those.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head right here. Im not sure that most that are in panic mode take this into consideration.I'm going to disagree with this.
Carrier played 77 games this season, having a previous high of 19.
Fabbro played 66, his career high (64 previously).
Jeannot played 81, previous high 15.
Kunin played 82, previous high 63.
McCarron played 51, previous high 31.
Tomasino played 76.
Trenin played 80, previous high 45.
Especially for these younger guys, who aren't used to playing the full season slog game in and game out, their bodies are just going to run out of steam. Many are also probably nursing injuries. Even a fitness freak like Jeannot has looked completely out of gas over the last several weeks. Yes, other teams are similarly affected, but this team plays a style that wears us down and depletes us physically to a far greater extent than most of the other teams still in it at that point--we've played a "playoff style" game for much of the regular season, and it takes its toll.
It is also true they seem mentally scattered and have "lost the plot" systematically over the last several weeks. Not clear whether that is just mental fatigue, too much focus on individual production, trying to do "too much," or probably some mix of all of those.
I doubt they will. And while we're starting to see "Poile out" posts lurking in here and there, there's right about a 0 percent chance he loses his job, regardless of how we play the rest of the series, likely regardless of whatever happens to Forsberg. Many had this team pegged as a #7 in division at the start of the season. Though it seems a huge let down with how we finished out the season (and how game 1 went), just making the playoffs was exceeding a lot of expectations.And I hope Poile and Hynes recognize this and don't panic like the fanbase. This was never supposed to be a contending season, the playoffs are just a bonus at this stage of the retool/rebuild. Learn lessons, deal with the growing pains and hope that it pays off down the road. Lots of good young talent still coming up in the pipeline, the future is bright!