Miro Heiskanen has saved multiple jobs in the Stars organization, this is what it looks like without him.View attachment 601265
vegas vs winnipeg last night... Bones had the game right where he wanted it lmao
Connor Hellebuyck is also putting lipstick on the Winnipeg Jets' pigMiro Heiskanen has saved multiple jobs in the Stars organization, this is what it looks like without him.
Connor Hellebuyck is also putting lipstick on the Winnipeg Jets' pig
Starting to wonder if/when things start to happen in Leafs land. The team obviously needs some kind of change but do you let the lameduck GM make major changes ? Would Dubas get canned too when Leafs start to make changes ?
In 2 years the whole Leafs core outside of Reilly could be gone. Nylander and Matthews become UFA at the end of next season and the year after that Marner and Tavares. Unbelieveable how little the team archived so far. The contracts everybody signed there are expiring soon and they still haven't won a playoff round .
If the core just desintegrates in 2-3 years and the Leafs have to rebuild that might go down as one of the greatest failures in NHL history .
yup- claiming anything otherwise is revisionist history unless the posters have receiptsDeBrincat is the guy we should be upset about because I feel like well over 50% of the posters here wanted him, and I think there was a few who wanted Howden.
Nobody here wanted Tage so passing on him isn't fair to throw on management now.
I mean based on his play now, Nuke was the right pick. Just couldnt make it work herei save all my ire for nuke and glennie
Nuke was never a bad pick. He was a fantastic choice on draft day, and in a redraft I think he goes even higher. It was never about ability with him, it was all mental and that is a VERY difficult aspect to consider appropriately on draft day.
If we're gonna go back to 2009 (worse, bad, fine, good, great):
Glennie: bad then, worse now
Campbell: bad then, worse now
Oleksiak: good then, fine now
Faksa: good then, fine now
Nichushkin: great then, great now
Dickinson: fine then, fine now
Honka: bad then, worse now
Gurianov: worse then, even worse now
Tufte: fine then, bad now
Heiskanen: great then, great now
Oettinger: fine then, great now
2018-2022 are still too early to fairly evaluate, IMO. I prefer to give drafts 5 years before really evaluating the quality of each pick.
I think I wanted Rubstov that year but he became a bust as well so I can’t be too mad about the 2016 draft. Would have been nice to snag Thompson or DeBrincat tho.I think I hated the Tufte pick on day 1, he's a trap player. He's big, he can skate, that's about it. It never really went anywhere. Dickinson is another one that just seems stupid. It's the late first, swing for upside. From a perspective of stakes, obviously a 25th or a 30th overall pick aren't anything to cry about, but if you never even tried to draft someone who could be an impact player you deserve shit as a scouting group.
The Gurianov draft is probably the worst one because of how many hits there were in the mid first round, but I think the Campbell draft is a solid contender. Still mad they didn't make the most obvious pick in the universe and drafted Cam Fowler. How so many teams f***ed up and didn't pick a d-man who was NHL ready from day 1 and was instantly a top 4 d-man, especially when they needed someone like Cam Fowler so badly at the time, blows my mind.
Faksa is a weird one, in hindsight some really good players went just after him, Wilson, Hertl, Teravainen, but there was a point in time where I thought Faksa was turning a corner and was flirting with being a 2nd line center. Then they stuck him with grinders and the rest is history. Somewhere between development, injury, and that he was never going to be as good as someone like Hertl, it's a disappointment. I don't know if it was at the time, though, so the hindsight bias is real. I don't remember the draft that well, but I do remember consensus being pretty thrilled with the pick. The Stars have sucked at drafting and developing, but I think Faksa is maybe the muddiest case to figure out which one was the more important aspect. In a lot of other cases it feels fairly clear cut, but Faksa is somewhere in the middle.
Although I never put as much research into the draft as some here do, I recall being pissed at the Glennie pick, because it seemed clear part of his big offensive numbers were linemate related.Nuke was never a bad pick. He was a fantastic choice on draft day, and in a redraft I think he goes even higher. It was never about ability with him, it was all mental and that is a VERY difficult aspect to consider appropriately on draft day.
If we're gonna go back to 2009 (worse, bad, fine, good, great):
Glennie: bad then, worse now
Campbell: bad then, worse now
Oleksiak: good then, fine now
Faksa: good then, fine now
Nichushkin: great then, great now
Dickinson: fine then, fine now
Honka: bad then, worse now
Gurianov: worse then, even worse now
Tufte: fine then, bad now
Heiskanen: great then, great now
Oettinger: fine then, great now
2018-2022 are still too early to fairly evaluate, IMO. I prefer to give drafts 5 years before really evaluating the quality of each pick.