Rumor: Zetterberg’s contract to Tampa

[The Zetterberg Era]

Kuch and Stamkos have a combined cap hit of $18M, if they both miss 18 games out of 56, it clears $5.8M of cap space. If they miss half the season (28 games), then it clears $9M.

So yes, it does if they both miss about 5 - 6 weeks. If they miss significantly more than that, they would actually have space for a TDL acquisition.

I know they have some good players, but I hope Point is ready for this if it does happen. Man is he going to be a targeted player within our division. I would run him every chance you got as the Wings if the plan is to shelf those two for cap/injury issues and play defensive first hockey. I think they can do it and still win because of Vasy and the top 4 D-man in Tampa. But it is a grinding style of hockey until they can get both back probably.

Coleman can play up the lineup if needed though as can a few of the other guys. Still this hurts them and isn't the ideal way to get to cap compliance at all.

Also our same awful deal for them can be on the table next year where they already have 73 million committed to 13 players and the cap isn't going up from 81.5. That is without Cirelli's and Cernak's new contracts, they are basically pushed up against the cap once you start figuring those likely figures in with 15 players.

Having to figure out which talent to get rid of though are days I miss. Hopefully in five years we are moving on from legit hockey players and making tough decisions like Tampa, that is the nature of the cap.

 

[Gniwder]

I know they have some good players, but I hope Point is ready for this if it does happen. Man is he going to be a targeted player within our division. I would run him every chance you got as the Wings if the plan is to shelf those two for cap/injury issues and play defensive first hockey. I think they can do it and still win because of Vasy and the top 4 D-man in Tampa. But it is a grinding style of hockey until they can get both back probably.

Coleman can play up the lineup if needed though as can a few of the other guys. Still this hurts them and isn't the ideal way to get to cap compliance at all.

Also our same awful deal for them can be on the table next year where they already have 73 million committed to 13 players and the cap isn't going up from 81.5. That is without Cirelli's and Cernak's new contracts, they are basically pushed up against the cap once you start figuring those likely figures in with 15 players.

Having to figure out which talent to get rid of though are days I miss. Hopefully in five years we are moving on from legit hockey players and making tough decisions like Tampa, that is the nature of the cap.

They can be mediocre for half a season and still make the playoffs when Stamkos and Kuch return. Heck, they won the Cup without STamkos, so the only player they'd be missing is Kuch.

They will offload players to Seattle after the season. TJ and at least one other player. It's almost guaranteed.

Seattle takes a couple of salary dumps from TBL and MAF from LGK (in a trade), and they actually have a legit team.

 

[Henkka]

That's kind of high-flying scenarios, when Stamkos is informed to be full healthy.

If Kucherov is injured, then he is, but you still have to return and then make cap space.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

tick-tock JBB, tick-tock. Cernak signs for higher than most TB & some NHL fans predicted. Even then it's a good bridge deal for TB.
[TBL] Erik Cernak signs extension (3 years, $2.95M AAV)

 

[Gniwder]

tick-tock JBB, tick-tock. Cernak signs for higher than most TB & some NHL fans predicted. Even then it's a good bridge deal for TB.
[TBL] Erik Cernak signs extension (3 years, $2.95M AAV)

Nah, just means Kuch has to miss 1/3 of the season.

 

[TCNorthstars]

Nah, just means Kuch has to miss 1/3 of the season.

How's that?

You might want to see this post for a good explanation:
Rumor: - Kucherov long term injury could give lightning the cap space they need

 

[Gniwder]

How's that?

You might want to see this post for a good explanation:
Rumor: - Kucherov long term injury could give lightning the cap space they need

Meh, they'll just rotate injuries. They'll bring Kuch back as soon as someone else is injured.... watch.

All this talk about a big trade, it isn't gonna happen. GMs are too good at manipulating the cap.

 

[Henkka]

Meh, they'll just rotate injuries..

That's fantasy world.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

M.Granlund just resigned with Preds $3.75/1yr = (less $ for NSH to take on TJ/Dump).

 

[Gniwder]

That's fantasy world.

Fantasy world is expecting TB to do a big trade with the Wings. When is the last time the Wings were involved in a big trade or UFA signing?

Stall and 2nd to eat $3.2M?
Fabbri for DLR?
Nielsen?

Rebuilds are done through drafts in the cap era, so expect a couple more years of boredom. Maybe they sign an aging vet on a short term contract next offseason to help the kids. I think Malkin (2022) would be hilarious....

What's also fantasy is expecting any of the TB players to waive their NTC to come to Detroit. I will change my username to ButtKraken if that happens. That's how sure I am.

 

[GreatGordie9]

Would you add Vatanen or Hamonic to the Wings D?

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Would you add Vatanen or Hamonic to the Wings D?

I've read Vatanen can play LD als0, if true, then yes for $4.25 or less, 2-3yrs. TDL chip now or in future. He just has to stay healthy.

Hamonic was one of the top shutdown D for a few years, not so much now...injuries etc. No.

 

[Gniwder]

Would you add Vatanen or Hamonic to the Wings D?

Hamonic opted out last season, I doubt any team signs him until vaccines are out.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Do Wings offer sheet Cirelli? Steve Y has a heart on for Cirelli...

 

[TCNorthstars]

Do Wings offer sheet Cirelli? Steve Y has a heart on for Cirelli...

Would Cirelli sign the sheet?

 

[MBH]

Would you add Vatanen or Hamonic to the Wings D?

No.
I would have before Merril, Staal and Stecher.
Not now.
Hamonic wouldn't play here anyway.

My priority on defense this year Cholowski. He's got to play enough for Detroit to have a good enough idea about whether he's worth protecting/keeping.
Same with Lindstrom, at some degree.
I'd like to see Cholo play 50 games and Lindstrom play at least 20-25.

 

[MBH]

Do Wings offer sheet Cirelli? Steve Y has a heart on for Cirelli...

No.

 

[GreatGordie9]

No.

No

 

[JT AM da real deal]

No.

Don't be too sure on that front ... Rocks and I are friends ... our kids played together a few times in spring hockey ... these guys still play online video together ... again don't be so sure of yourself ... it may be unlikely but far from NO ... did you know Steve Y is da main reason why Tampa drafted Anthony while others in that org wanted to wait further down da draft

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Of all guys left on board to get an offer sheet with wings da only real shot would be Cirelli

 

[MBH]

Don't be too sure on that front ... Rocks and I are friends ... our kids played together a few times in spring hockey ... these guys still play online video together ... again don't be so sure of yourself ... it may be unlikely but far from NO ... did you know Steve Y is da main reason why Tampa drafted Anthony while others in that org wanted to wait further down da draft

I guess it's possible

You could offer 3x$4,3M... and only have to give up a second.

What are the chances your very high 2nd round pick becomes cirelli? Not too high.

 

[Gniwder]

No.
I would have before Merril, Staal and Stecher.
Not now.
Hamonic wouldn't play here anyway.

My priority on defense this year Cholowski. He's got to play enough for Detroit to have a good enough idea about whether he's worth protecting/keeping.
Same with Lindstrom, at some degree.
I'd like to see Cholo play 50 games and Lindstrom play at least 20-25.

Lindstrom is playing for sure, they pulled him back from the SHL.

Cholo isn't getting 50 games in a 56 game season unless DDK gets injured again. Both will play full time after TDL, they probably split time with Staal until then. Merrill plays both sides, and I'm pretty sure Stevie promised Stech and Merrill playing time.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Would Cirelli sign the sheet?

I bet he would for $5M+/5yr. or thereabouts, though I wouldn't wanna pay the picks @ that rate, so $4.3 as alluded to earlier is my max unfortunately. Other teams not in danger of losing (high 1sts) NSH for instance have the cap, could've stole Cirelli instead of resigning Granlund, though I believe they still can. TB is so vulnerable right now, I wonder what the hold up with Cirelli was? (it's kinda moot now with Cernak & the other D just signed).

I'm sure he was priority #1 after Serg. Odd how it played out.
Welcome to DET Mr. Cirelli, here's your $4.3M/4yrs w/NTC.

 

[TCNorthstars]

I bet he would for $5M+/5yr. or thereabouts, though I wouldn't wanna pay the picks @ that rate, so $4.3 as alluded to earlier is my max unfortunately. Other teams not in danger of losing (high 1sts) NSH for instance have the cap, could've stole Cirelli instead of resigning Granlund, though I believe they still can. TB is so vulnerable right now, I wonder what the hold up with Cirelli was? (it's kinda moot now with Cernak & the other D just signed).

I'm sure he was priority #1 after Serg. Odd how it played out.
Welcome to DET Mr. Cirelli, here's your $4.3M/4yrs w/NTC.

He can't get a NTC with that contract.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

He can't get a NTC with that contract.

thanks for the correction, good catch.


Haula to NSH 1.75/1yr

Volkov, Ruutta, Joseph & Cernak all signed leave TB vulnerable to Cirelli OS.


Come on Yzerman, we need a Christmas miracle, get us Cirelli for $4.3 (2nd).

EDIT: the latter part didn't age well, see post #227.