Zach Hyman Or Josh Anderson?

Who is the better player?


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The Great Weal

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Jan 15, 2015
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again how does younger and faster make any difference? more talented sure, offensively. but doesnt matter if he isnt putting it to use.

you said he is better because he is bigger and stronger. he is also bigger and stronger than Marner, but isnt better. which is why i said him.
Slap Anderson next to the best goalscorer in the league and the guy who is top 4 in points in the entire league and I'm sure you'll see how he is putting in the offensive talent to use and more than Hyman.

That being said, I really like Hyman and he compliments the Leafs well by bringing in a much needed element.
 

Habano

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May 18, 2012
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well i mean, if he is so much more talented why isnt he producing so much more?

the thing is Ovechkin is a much better player, production included. 2-way game doesnt make you a better player automatically, but when 2 players produce relatively similar it is added value.
I mean, you even admitted Anderson was more talented. Are you taking that back now? :nod:

Again, Stutzle, Zibanejad, Gallagher, Eichel and 70% of the voters say hi.
 
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CatchyTune

JOHN TAVARES IS A MAPLE LEAF
Jan 8, 2016
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Slap Anderson next to the best goalscorer in the league and the guy who is top 4 in points in the entire league and I'm sure you'll see how he is putting in the offensive talent to use and more than Hyman.

That being said, I really like Hyman and he compliments the Leafs well by bringing in a much needed element.
i think the benefit is mutual. any line Hyman plays on gets better. even right now when he's with Engvall/Mikheyev he is scoring. i agree though, he's a perfect fit and wish we had more of him.
 

CatchyTune

JOHN TAVARES IS A MAPLE LEAF
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You admitted he was more talented. Are you taking that back now? :nod:

Again, Stutzle, Zibanejad, Gallagher, Eichel and 70% of the voters say hi.
relevancy says hi. you didnt even wave.

no he is still more talented, Hyman puts up points by playing dirty and net front and such.
 

The Great Weal

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Jan 15, 2015
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i think the benefit is mutual. any line Hyman plays on gets better. even right now when he's with Engvall/Mikheyev he is scoring. i agree though, he's a perfect fit and wish we had more of him.
It may be mutual, but it definitely isn't the same level of benefit. The offensive talent between Hyman and Anderson would be better shown if their most common linemates weren't that different.
 

Habano

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May 18, 2012
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relevancy says hi. you didnt even wave.

no he is still more talented, Hyman puts up points by playing dirty and net front and such.
I'm glad because the consensus of 70% of the voters is telling you who's more relevant.

You didn't wave either.
 

CatchyTune

JOHN TAVARES IS A MAPLE LEAF
Jan 8, 2016
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I'm glad because the consensus of 70% of the voters is telling you who's more relevant.

You didn't wave either.
my goodness. poll results arent a valid argument unto who is better. weird how its page 3 and i still dont know how.
 

The Podium

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Feb 19, 2010
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Why do you feel the need to outright lie ?

Hyman
2017-2018 82GP 40Points
2018-2019 71GP 41Points (47 point pace)
2019-2020 51GP 37Points (59 point pace)
2020-2021 30GP 20Points (54 point pace)

Anderson
2018-2019 82GP 47Points
2020-2021 28GP 16Points (47 point pace)
 
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ole ole

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Hyman
2017-2018 82GP 40Points
2018-2019 71GP 41Points (47 point pace)
2019-2020 51GP 37Points (59 point pace)
2020-2021 30GP 20Points (54 point pace)

Anderson
2018-2019 82GP 47Points
2020-2021 28GP 16Points (47 point pace)
You said that Anderson hit 40 points once in his career, Hyman has been a 40+ point player the past 4 years.
FALSE and you just proved it.
Pace is not a given.
 

Dondini

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Habs fan checking in taking Anderson (shocking) but it’s closer than Habs/Anderson fans would think. Anderson is the better goal scorer, he’s faster and hits more and also has that fighting ability. I think on a team that lacks superstars Anderson fits in better than Hyman.

What Hyman is better at is puck control and passing ability. He is probably a better complimentary player.
 

The Podium

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You said that Anderson hit 40 points once in his career, Hyman has been a 40+ point player the past 4 years.
FALSE and you just proved it.
Pace is not a given.

Pace isn’t a given when they haven’t done it before but do you really think Hyman doesn’t get 3 points in 31 games (19 games if you want to go by the 70 game season)

Anyway, the reason for the post were for all the Habs fans claiming Anderson is better offensively.

Since Anderson’s breakout season (2018-19) he has 67 points in 136 games (40 point pace)

Hyman in the same time frame has 98 points in 152 games (53 point pace)

Even the teammate factor is unlikely to cover a 13 point separation
 
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sharks9

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Pace isn’t a given when they haven’t done it before but do you really think Hyman doesn’t get 3 points in 31 games (19 games if you want to go by the 70 game season)

Anyway, the reason for the post were for all the Habs fans claiming Anderson is better offensively.

Since Anderson’s breakout season (2018-19) he has 67 points in 136 games (40 point pace)

Hyman in the same time frame has 98 points in 152 games (53 point pace)

Even the teammate factor is unlikely to cover a 13 point separation

Remove his injury-plagued last year and he's at a 52-point pace. I think teammates could make the difference of 1 point a year
 

Suntouchable13

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i still dont see how Anderson is a better player. he is winning this poll because people on this site get erect when talking about big players. Hyman is producing better and plays an all around better game.

if not wanting to trade a player for a worse player puts me in a "minority", so be it.

Then we should enjoy Hyman for whatever amount of games left in the season because we ain't keeping him if he is that good.
 
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Sidney the Kidney

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cool

could one of the 131 people who voted for Anderson please tell me how he's better?

or even you could pull something out? seems weird you voted for him without even knowing why. usually if someone is better its not hard to explain how/why. odd

Hyman seems to be one of those players you have to watch game in and game out to appreciate. He's not flashy, he doesn't do anything particularly well with the puck, and his natural talent is limited. He's kind of like what Patric Hornqvist was for the Pens during their Cup runs. A whack-a-mole shooter who has an engine that doesn't stop and wins a ridiculous amount of battles.
 

Dion TheFluff

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both guys bring alot of intangibles to the table but I'll take the guy who kills penalties and has been playing at a 65 point pace over the guy who's playing at a 45 point pace.
 

Holymakinaw

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May 22, 2007
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Hyman by a lot. You want/need a guy like him on the team if you want to win anything. Works his arse off and will consistently get you 20 goals/40 points. Anderson will consistently be injured and is invisible out there half the time.
 

BlueBaron

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Hyman has 185 points in 345 games which is highlighted by a 21 goal 37 point season in 51 games. Career goals 86
Anderson has 139 points in 312 games highlighted by a 27 goal 47 point season in 82 games. Career goals 82.

That is .536 points per game vs .445 career production in Hyman's favor.

Just looking at the numbers Anderson is a better goal scorer. We watched Hyman miss a million golden chances handed to him by M&M. Hyman is probably more well rounded but when I factor in a 2 year age gap and the offensive talent gaps of teams and I am going to have to vote Anderson..ugh..I feel dirty.
 

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