Proposal: Young defensive/mobile LHD for Jonathan Drouin

[TT1]

Like I said, do the board a favor.

Why are you speaking on behalf of "the board" after proposing that we'd add Gallagher to Drouin for Nino and Brodin?

Are you implying that you have some sort of understanding of the game after that laughable statement that you made? Anyways, I'm done wasting my time replying to you.

 

[2Pair]

Why are you speaking on behalf of "the board" after proposing that we'd add Gallagher to Drouin for Nino and Brodin?

Are you implying that you have some sort of understanding of the game after that laughable statement that you made? Anyways, I'm done wasting my time replying to you.

Are you suggesting that Gallagher is worth more than Brodin and Niederreiter combined? Because that would make it real easy to figure out who actually understands the game.

 

[Mick Jagr]

Yes, move the most skilled forward the team has for a D.... or just don't trade Subban or Sergachev

 

[Lockin17]

Are you suggesting that Gallagher is worth more than Brodin and Niederreiter combined? Because that would make it real easy to figure out who actually understands the game.

After reading your comments it's obvious that you don't know what your talking about.
Please make HF board a favor and don't reply on this tread anymore.

 

[Lockin17]

Habs have an excess of wingers and we're lacking a good defensive/puck moving presence on the blue line, anyone good available?

Could also take a lower value defensive LHD (still has to be young and have good upside) plus a winger for Drouin.

Drouin is sure not for sale at this point in time.
Weber is comming back in a month and we have decent Dman moving the puck like Petry,Mete,Reilly.
With that defense line i think we are in business for the next 3 years.
Mete-Weber
Ouelette-Petry
Reilly-Julssen

 

[The Assclown]

Drouin is sure not for sale at this point in time.
Weber is comming back in a month and we have decent Dman moving the puck like Petry,Mete,Reilly.
With that defense line i think we are in buisness for the next 3 years.
Mete-Weber
Ouelette-Petry
Reilly-Julssen

In what business?

 

[Habs Halifax]

Perfect time to do a trade proposal for Drouin.... just after he has a bad game

 

[Habs Halifax]

In what business?

The business of hope.

 

[CanadienShark]

What are examples of defensive PMD? Seems a bit contradictory...

Like, maybe just build a puck passing robot that sits like a pylon near the goal but whips any puck it touches to a teammate.

Vlasic, Slavin, Suter... Just stylistic examples. Not common players though.

 

[NoName]

I like Theodore but moving Drouin for him 1 for 1 makes me feel uneasy tbh (and Vegas doesn't really have a winger that could even out the value, i like Haula/Tuch but Vegas wouldn't do that deal unless we added something to Drouin).

I've also liked Nic Hague since his draft year, even tho he's not a puck mover. Obviously love Brannstrom but i assume he wouldn't be available.

Maybe they could work some value evening adds in there, but it seems like the teams would be good trade partners (no real rivalry and in separate conferences) and Vegas does definitely need scoring up front so I could see them taking a lot of interest if the Habs were shopping Drouin. These two teams feel like natural trade partners and I imagine there is a good "hockey deal" to be had somewhere in there, and I say this as a guy who is a fan of neither team.

 

[Just Linda]

If you're that delusional about the value of players, do everyone a favor and stay on the Habs board.

Ironic saying that. Gallaghers value to Montreal is worth more to them than both those players combined. NN has really low value right now, he had a 36pt year last year and I haven't seen him play any more than as a middle six winger since his breakout season two years ago. Brodin is a nice addition, solid top 4 d. Is the difference between him plus NN enough to make a top 10 re in the league? I don't think so.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Drouin is not worth Toffoli alone.

Lmao

 

[Mick Jagr]

Classic Montreal. Drouin has a "bad game" and then gets offered up on HFboards.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Ironic saying that. Gallaghers value to Montreal is worth more to them than both those players combined. NN has really low value right now, he had a 36pt year last year and I haven't seen him play any more than as a middle six winger since his breakout season two years ago. Brodin is a nice addition, solid top 4 d. Is the difference between him plus NN enough to make a top 10 re in the league? I don't think so.

Gallagher isn’t a top 10 RW, assuming that’s what you meant by “re”, in the NHL. Saying so is awfully misinformed.

 

[Just Linda]

Gallagher isn’t a top 10 RW, assuming that’s what you meant by “re”, in the NHL. Saying so is awfully misinformed.

Name 10 you'd take over him.

Laine, Pasta, Kuch, Stone, Tarasenko, Wheeler, Marner, Rantenen, Gallagher, Boeser are probably the top 10 I think, I wouldn't take anyone outside the top 10 over Gallagher.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Gallagher isn’t a top 10 RW, assuming that’s what you meant by “re”, in the NHL. Saying so is awfully misinformed.

Analytically (by basically any measure) and most prognosticators consider him a top-10 RW. Not sure what you're on about.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Name 10 you'd take over him.

Laine, Pasta, Kuch, Stone, Tarasenko, Wheeler, Marner, Rantenen, Gallagher, Boeser are probably the top 10 I think, I wouldn't take anyone outside the top 10 over Gallagher.

Kucherov, Kessel, Wheeler, Pastrnak, P. Kane, Laine, Marner, Granlund, Tarasenko, Stone, Voracek, Rantanen, Dadanov, etc. I would love to hear the arguments for Gallagher over Patrick Kane and Phil Kessel though. Then you get into the tier where Gallagher is at with Nylander, Boeser, Zuccarrello, etc.

Analytically (by basically any measure) and most prognosticators consider him a top-10 RW. Not sure what you're on about.

What's your sample size?

 

[FinnishCoyote]

Drouin for Chychrun and maybe small +?

Not that i want to trade Chych, it's just fun to speculate

 

[Bluesnatic27]

The Blues have prospects that might entice you if part of a package. Perunovich, Walman, and Mikkola are all quite mobile, although each have a distinct weakness to their game. Dunn is probably more in line with what you want, but I don't think the Blues would part with him unless they know one of the mentioned before can take over Dunn's minutes.

I am fully aware that the three would need to be part of some bigger deal to snag Drouin, and the Blues would need to trade a forward to fit Drouin. It's not very likely to happen, but I thought I would throw that into the conversation.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Habs have an excess of wingers and we're lacking a good defensive/puck moving presence on the blue line, anyone good available?

Could also take a lower value defensive LHD (still has to be young and have good upside) plus a winger for Drouin.

Brodin

 

[GhostOfWildWing]

Ducks need more creativity at forward. Not sure they could offer much of a package to entice Habs, though, as we need our two Top4 LD (Fowler, Lindholm).

Best I can do is a package:

Jacob Larsson (I think he will end up a Top4 in NHL)
Nick Ritchie
+ draft pick ?

 

[Captain Mountain]

Kucherov, Kessel, Wheeler, Pastrnak, P. Kane, Laine, Marner, Granlund, Tarasenko, Stone, Voracek, Rantanen, Dadanov, etc. I would love to hear the arguments for Gallagher over Patrick Kane and Phil Kessel though. Then you get into the tier where Gallagher is at with Nylander, Boeser, Zuccarrello, etc.

What's your sample size?

Beginning of '16-'17 to current (since that allows us to fairly include younger guys).

You're free to value players as you please (as we all do). But know that Habs fans wouldn't do Gallagher for Granlund plus.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Beginning of '16-'17 to current (since that allows us to fairly include younger guys).

You're free to value players as you please (as we all do). But know that Habs fans wouldn't do Gallagher for Granlund plus.

That’s okay, cause Minnesota isn’t interested in trading their best forward, especially for a downgrade.

 

[Captain Mountain]

That’s okay, cause Minnesota isn’t interested in trading their best forward, especially for a downgrade.

And Montreal isn't interested in trading their best forward, especially for a downgrade.

Now you get it.

 

[Just Linda]

Kucherov, Kessel, Wheeler, Pastrnak, P. Kane, Laine, Marner, Granlund, Tarasenko, Stone, Voracek, Rantanen, Dadanov, etc. I would love to hear the arguments for Gallagher over Patrick Kane and Phil Kessel though. Then you get into the tier where Gallagher is at with Nylander, Boeser, Zuccarrello, etc.

What's your sample size?

I'd take Gallagher over Granlund, Kessel, and Dadanov. Nothing against any of those guys, Kessel especially, but Gallagher is a special type of player. He creates offense from nothing, he's likely had the least minutes of anyone in the top 10 and still produced 31 goals last year (and similiar pace is previous seasons) without the luxury of having linemates who can set him up. Better idea, I'll show you why Gallagher is underrated. See the screenshot below, see how Gallagher played with low quality teammates and still was impressive in nearly every way.