If we're to read anything into the lines, it would seem that Holloway is the odd man out for now and based on Holland's "Holloway is top 9 or bust" comments (which I agree with), I'm having a hard time seeing him on the team until one of the top 9 forwards are moved although I'm sure they could move Foegele to the 4th line I suppose.
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Fourier
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So does this mean that Kane-McDavid-Yamamoto are bound for Bak? Connor could do some damage down there if he clears waivers.
You don't necessarily disagree with Flames fans calling the series win a fluke? I'm assuming that's a misunderstanding on my part because that would be crazy. For a Tanev being injured, I'll raise them a severely injured Nurse being a liability and a one legged Drai so they can take their excuses and throw them right into the Saddledump with the rest of the trash.
Edit: Maybe you were talking about the Oilers lighting up Markstrom being a fluke. Just more garbage excuses in any case.
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Drivesaitl
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Markstrom is the sole reason that team was in first place. Imagine blaming the best player on your club who couldn't even save their bacon. Not even Sutter really believed in that club. I can't really say why he's still doing it.
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No, thats not what I meant. I dont think Edmonton winning was a fluke.
I just meant that Markstrom was terrible in that series. There are very few teams that would of won with that kind of goaltending (thats the part I partially agree with). I think Calgary fans think that Markstroms performance was bad luck (a fluke where he had a bad week). But fact of the matter is, Edmonton has been scoring on will against Markstrom for awhile now. They know how to exploit him and in his head. Its not like Calgary changed their goaltender this offseason. Not sure why they are confident that the next Markstrom faces us, that things will go better for them. I just think Flames fans/media are delusional about their chances.
Also last year the media/cbc acted like Gaudreau/Tkachuk was near McDavid/Draisaitl's ability. Gaudreau for hart. In the playoffs McDavid and Draisaitl proved that their "stars" are no where near our stars (even on one leg). Its just the facts. But once again they think their players are better than they are. And now that Gaudreau/Tkachuk (after being praised) have left Town, they act like they are a better team now.
I just have no idea why that fan base/media feels so confident in their team coming into this season.
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It's preseason, the results are far less important than the process. Coaches can still be happy (not saying they were) with a loss. As long as the players execute the game plan laid out for them
I mean, Mike Smith was horrible too after a strong close to the regular season so I don't really buy their goaltending excuse.
They're the most delusional fanbase in the league, even moreso than Leafs fans. They're acting like the playoffs last season never happened with how much boasting they're doing this offseason about "Edmonton sucks, we're awesome".
I've said this on the mains. It's little brother syndrome always putting up a hissy fit because they always play second fiddle to big brother. Even during the Decade of Darkness, they did squat in the playoffs. Their arrogance is coming from nothing and while I do admit that a portion of the Oilers fanbase comes off arrogant, at least it comes from the team actually accomplishing something in the last 3 decades even if it was just beating the Flames in one playoff series.
Had to chuckle at Lombourdias going wild over Huberdeau's relatively routine neutral zone pass last night as well.
Kind of funny the dichotomy between Oiler media and Flame media. Oiler media is often highly critical of the players (never management, but that's another story) and the conversation is usually nuanced and detailed. In Calgary the media just pimps the team to no end and their dumb fans just nod and follow along.
Kind of funny the dichotomy between Oiler media and Flame media. Oiler media is often highly critical of the players (never management, but that's another story) and the conversation is usually nuanced and detailed. In Calgary the media just pimps the team to no end and their dumb fans just nod and follow along.
Until either team wins a cup I think everyone should put their dicks away. This Flames vs Oilers escalation since last season has gotten completely out of control. To be honest I'm finding people on both sides to have become insufferable.
Flame fans always walk around with the bravado of a perennial contender and take joy in pointing out that the Oilers haven't won anything. Yet when you ask for a list of Flame accomplishments simply not picking 1st overall at any point is literally all they can come up with.
The Oilers are their measuring stick and nothing else matters. It's why they get so perplexed when you simply ask them what on earth Flames fans have to possibly hang their hat on because looking at their team beyond the context of "LOL we never had a 1st overall pick!" is something they just never do.
The Flames could finish 10th for 5 straight years, but all would be ok in Flame land as long as the Oilers were in 11th.
RipsADrive
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To each their own.
Personally, I'm thinking if you can't shit on your rival when you beat them in a best of 7 when can you do it?
I'm not saying don't talk smack. But it's a new season. Last year is over. It doesn't mean anything anymore.
I just think it's overboard these days. Every thread whether it be here or the mains, is just people shit talking entire fanbases and insulting each other like they were a part of the actual games being played. It's ridiculous. People getting so triggered at the mere mention of the Flames. People unable to talk about rival teams and players without throwing shit around or talking them down because "our guys are better".
Maybe it was always like this and I just didn't notice. But this offseason has really made it hard for me to enjoy the forums, and I really like talking hockey here.
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All the do gooders and Karen’s are going to pitch fork you for your display of comedy. It’s only welcome here in one flavour, vanilla.
Drivesaitl
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People are not getting "triggered" by the Flames we can't stop laughing at them. I like more triggered like that in my life. More laughter, less stress.
Most of the posts last night were lampooning the flames telecast, turd polishing, and zany unlicensed entertainment. Its just in fun in anycase. Hard to imagine somebody being triggered, or by it..
That's what happens with rivals. I don't see any harm in a fanbase shit talking the fanbase of the team that just lost to theirs in the playoffs and further, making fun of that fanbase for being delusional enough to shit talk the fanbase of the team that just beat theirs in the playoffs.
I think that laughing at little brother is warranted and I'd expect the same from them had their team (gulp) beaten the Oilers in the playoffs.
There's been quite a few people angered by talk of the Flames on this board. Not last night in particular, but over the offseason absolutely.
Like acknowledging talented players on other teams is a bad thing simply because we're on the Oilers board. Obviously I get some people like to come in and troll, but I find it crazy how upset some people get when you do talk about other teams and their players.
I can't help but compare it to my friend and I. He's a die hard flames fan and I'm a die hard Oilers fan. We like to razz each other, but are also able to talk about each others teams in an unbiased fashion regarding players, prospects and coaching. On here, and this site in general, it seems like a huge amount of people are unable to. I dunno. It's probably just a me problem, and I'll keep it off of the forum from here on out. Just found it very hard to have any sort of neutral discussion on HF this offseason because everything is a giant pissing match.
Drivesaitl
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I don't see one poster here "angered" about it. Weird take. I see non stop ridiculing the Flames. That ain't anger.
Aerchon
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Holloway has been better than Foegele and most have him slated to be on the third line.
McLeod will be on the third line most like but it could be Ryan as well or Janmark.
Someone of "value" will be sent to the minors. I dont know if it will happen but due to cap restraints and play to date in preseason my preference would be Foegele sent down. Due to cap I think it has to be one of Ryan, Foegele, or Janmark.
In short there are 2 spots available behind: McD, Kane, Yama, Drai, Hyman, Pulj, and RNH. I think Holloway will be one if he can keep pushing as he has been.
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Usually the biggest mismatch are towards the end of the pre-season when you get the crossover of teams that have set their rosters and the teams that are giving their fringe players one more game/resting their stars
or you have the home stars vs the away scrubs like last night or Florida vs Carolina tonight
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Broberg Speed
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Usually the crash and bangers get a little bit of a pass in evaluation during preseason from the coaches.
You can injure yourself or others playing a game at high speed when you play with high physicality. Those players take it a little easier when the games don't matter.
However Foegele didn't do any of that last year. That's the Foegele from Carolina.
Some players are not self-motivators. I believe Foegele falls into that category.
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Really low standards down there then, I guess. To be fair, Flames fans will take whatever they can get. Their one blip Cup sandwiched between legendary franchises wins is all that keeps them from being a bottom tier Canadian team for success.
Would anyone outside of Calgary notice if the Flames got relocated tomorrow?
I’m sure you could write a whole new chapter in the DSM just by researching the “people” that post on CP.
