Prospect Info: Winnipeg Jets Prospects Thread 2018-19

[Holden Caulfield]

Mason is a free agent could you get him for 1 mil maybe

I'm surprised he hasn't signed anywhere yet. I've never been a fan of Mason, but he is NHL calibre no doubt. I think teams might be really scared of his injuries and he might need to sign camp PTO so a team can give him a physical and evaluate his health risk free before he can get a contract.

 

[Georgetown Al]

I posted this a while ago to summarize last year's thing:

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https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/winnipeg-jets-top-20-prospects-2017-wrap-up.2374343/
1. Connor
2. Roslovic
3. Vesalainen
4. Niku
5. Poolman
6. Comrie
7. Spacek
8. Harkins
9. Samberg
10. Stanley
11. Kovacevic
12. Foley
13. Lemieux
14. Green
15. Virtanen
16. De Leo
17. Nogier
18. Gawanke
19. Appleton
20. Berdin

HM: Kraskovsky, McKenzie, Tanev, Phillips, Lipon, Cederholm, Kostalek, Suess, Evingson, Holm, Stallard

Highest riser (from the previous list): Niku +12 (biggest jump by a skater on record)
Farthest faller: Lemieux/DeLeo -5

Graduating from that class are: 1. Connor, 2. Roslovic, 5. Poolman, and unranked Tanev. #12. Foley, was traded. Kostalek's gone to Europe. Stallard was not signed (and not re-drafted so he's a UFA). 16. De Leo was traded, Phillips was unsigned, Lipon and 6. Comrie were qualified so they'll be back.

So at least 6 spots open up for someone.

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And last year's kickoff is here: https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/winnipeg-jets-top-20-prospects-2017-1.2367401/

But the polls were all lost when HFBoards moved to mandatory.com.

I think we had a list of 10 prospects in the poll and then people vote, and leave a message maybe explaining their pick and nominating someone to add to the list.

12-24 hours per poll.

I think 20. Berdin may run straight up that list in 2 or 3 years...

Fingers crossed...

 

[Georgetown Al]

Mason is a free agent could you get him for 1 mil maybe

Possible but what kind of chip would be on his shoulders?

 

[Daximus]

Mason is a free agent could you get him for 1 mil maybe

I think there is a lot of risk there. He has some serious concussion issues. I don't think many teams are willing to throw money at someone without knowing the situation of his health.

 

[surixon]

I think there is a lot of risk there. He has some serious concussion issues. I don't think many teams are willing to throw money at someone without knowing the situation of his health.

It might also be in his own best interest to think about retirement.

 

[Whileee]

Interesting statistical analysis of drafted prospects, places Vesalainen at #7 overall, above Brannstrom, Valimaki, etc., etc.

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

Interesting statistical analysis of drafted prospects, places Vesalainen at #7 overall, above Brannstrom, Valimaki, etc., etc.

Interesting, he seems the second most likely to make the NHL by that list as well.

 

[GJF]

The question about Vesalainen never really was about him not being able to make the NHL but about his offensive upside as a first rounder compared to other choices.

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

The question about Vesalainen never really was about him not being able to make the NHL but about his offensive upside as a first rounder compared to other choices.

Well a year ago he was a boom or bust in the eyes of most people I’ve heard from as he had serious trouble playing older groups of players and was inconsistent year to year(one season he was a beat and the next he was being rag dolled by his flaws within that seasons schedule). at this point I agree and I think the question isn’t about if, it is about when and how effective he will be when translating over(ie. will he be a Granlund/Teravainen or will he be a Armia/Pulkkinen).

 

[truck]

Interesting, he seems the second most likely to make the NHL by that list as well.

And 4th in projected WAR.

 

[mazmin]

Based on his (comparative) stats in the FEL, his size & strength, and all the video available on him I'm pretty certain he can play in the NHL this coming season. He's an amazing puck hound and I could see him excel with Scheifee and Wheeler on the top line. Why not learn from the best, while working from a position to succeed. Just ask how that worked out for Kyle Connor!

 

[Guardian17]

Article on the Winnipeg Jets head US scout who found Tucker Poolman.

Janesville's Giese climbs NHL scouting ranks for Winnipeg Jets

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Max was one of those guys that posted on hfboards for years. Probably got chased out too

 

[Whileee]

Giese was obviously a great hire by the Jets. Now in charge of USA scouting.

 

[JetsUK]

Giese was obviously a great hire by the Jets. Now in charge of USA scouting.

Good article. Though I hope he sticks around a bit longer given the line about his partner hoping to work with "sea turtles in Florida," which struck me as the local rag equivalent to hiring a plane to fly a "Hire Me" banner past the Panthers head office. Can they afford to hire scouts round thar?

 

[Hammer Slammer]

Max is one of the coolest guys ever, loves what he does so much.

I figured he had a hand in drafting Nathan Smith and was sending him a message on draft night but found he'd already sent me one hyping him up.

 

[Gm0ney]

Good article. Though I hope he sticks around a bit longer given the line about his partner hoping to work with "sea turtles in Florida," which struck me as the local rag equivalent to hiring a plane to fly a "Hire Me" banner past the Panthers head office. Can they afford to hire scouts round thar?

I don't think Winnipeg's his home base - he probably spends more time at home in Wisconsin than he does in Winnipeg during the season.

 

[truck]

I don't think Winnipeg's his home base - he probably spends more time at home in Wisconsin than he does in Winnipeg during the season.

I suspect he can live anywhere with access to an airport and cheap flights.

 

[Mud Turtle]

Who was the US director before him?
He has a lot of “pegs” in the game now. Do we know which ones he’s responsible for other than Poolman?

 

[Sweech]

Who was the US director before him?
He has a lot of “pegs” in the game now. Do we know which ones he’s responsible for other than Poolman?

The guy before Giese took over was Tavis MacMillan.

 

[Maukkis]

I like how a decent amount of our scouting success is due to Ducky and Giese.

 

[Heldig]

I like how a decent amount of our scouting success is due to Ducky and Giese.

You are welcome

 

[GJF]

Article on the Winnipeg Jets head US scout who found Tucker Poolman.

Janesville's Giese climbs NHL scouting ranks for Winnipeg Jets

I can't access the page because I'm from Europe or something. Could someone copy the entire article and send it to me via private message?

Weird kind of...

 

[garret9]

Who was the US director before him?
He has a lot of “pegs” in the game now. Do we know which ones he’s responsible for other than Poolman?

Copp
Poolman
Seuss
Connor*
Foley
Appleton
Samberg**
Kovacevic**
Evingson**
Smith***

* Max pushed for him but that high of a pick has a bit of everyone involved.
** Not sure who drove the boat more of those 3 between Max and Dan Shrader. I think Evingson may have been more Shrader. I’m sure they work together lots on them though.
*** Shrader I think was the guy who really pushed for Smith.

Patterns I notice:
- a lot of overagers
- guys who can skate
- big, mobile defenders
- a lot of these players are guys who didn’t score that well but developed into scorers

EDIT: I should note there are 2 others beyond Shrader who do US scouting, but I don't know enough about them to know their input.

 

[Mud Turtle]

Copp
Poolman
Seuss
Connor*
Foley
Appleton
Samberg**
Kovacevic**
Evingson**
Smith***

* Max pushed for him but that high of a pick has a bit of everyone involved.
** Not sure who drove the boat more of those 3 between Max and Dan Shrader. I think Evingson may have been more Shrader. I’m sure they work together lots on them though.
*** Shrader I think was the guy who really pushed for Smith.

Patterns I notice:
- a lot of overagers
- guys who can skate
- big, mobile defenders
- a lot of these players are guys who didn’t score that well but developed into scorers

Wow, that’s super helpful. Thank you.