Wings trade Nyquist to SJ for 2019 2nd & 2020 Conditional 3rd

[Steve Yzerlland]

Except Jensen didn’t get more

Basically the same return and a far less player.... Holland lost this deal

 

[Leibinger6]

Surprised he waved his NTC

 

[Ezekial]

Surprised he waved his NTC

To go on a cup run in sunny California? I'm not.

 

[DetroitRed]

I really don't know. I wonder if they pulled the trigger a bit early?

I was nervous about the opposite. I didn't want them to wait too long and have what few interested parties there were take other options, leaving them with like one team that could then almost dictate his price.

 

[WesNichols14]

Basically the same return and a far less player.... Holland lost this deal

Not true. Nyquist returned 2 picks by himself. Jensen returned a pick, then we tossed in a 5th for a lottery ticket, and cleared the roster spot for them. Had we not taken bowey washington likely waives him.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Okay return, not what I hoped for but I guess contract talks weren’t going great and with the NTC we at least got something. But it’s close to the minimum I wanted for him. If the condition is fulfilled and it becomes another 2nd, it will look better.

 

[Leibinger6]

To go on a cup run in sunny California? I'm not.

 

[SlickHands]

I also think the return was mediocre. But it's hard to expect a first rounder for an average rental. I'm just glad Holland is selling instead of buying.

 

[Sparty]

That's great news. I really think they could package their latter two 2nds and move into the first round.

Didn't they already trade Florida's second round pick to Ottawa in the Karlsson deal?

EDIT: Here's the conditions from the Karlsson, Ottawa is entitled to the first Sharks pick in the second round, so that means well have the Sharks pick.

***Conditions: 2019 2nd round pick is the higher of the two picks the Sharks currently own: Panthers and their own.
Result: Ottawa will receive Panthers 2019 2nd round pick.

 

[Leibinger6]

To go on a cup run in sunny California? I'm not.

 

[Pavels Dog]

I also think the return was mediocre. But it's hard to expect a first rounder for an average rental. I'm just glad Holland is selling instead of buying.

wait until you hear what he’s done for years now

 

[Ezekial]

Edit: nm I just looked at the trade details

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Not true. Nyquist returned 2 picks by himself. Jensen returned a pick, then we tossed in a 5th for a lottery ticket, and cleared the roster spot for them. Had we not taken bowey washington likely waives him.

Conditional 2nd

 

[Reality Check]

Get rid of Nyquist before Holland has first crack as resigning him: Check

Get rid of Nyquist to open up more space for younger talent and hopefully improve draft stock: Check

Acquire more potential assets for future: Check

Long live the rebuild!

 

[Konnan511]

Conditional 2nd

A 2nd and a conditional 2nd or a 3rd rounder. It's still two picks.

 

[Konnan511]

For me, I'm going to miss him. I always liked him. I hope he does extremely well in San Jose.

 

[pz29]

Get rid of Nyquist before Holland has first crack as resigning him: Check

Get rid of Nyquist to open up more space for younger talent and hopefully improve draft stock: Check

Acquire more potential assets for future: Check

Long live the rebuild!

I am afraid the rebuild will live longer than anyone of us bargained for. Like, a decade or two.

 

[redwings8831]

This ESPN article said we get the lower of the two, so getting Florida's second is a huge boost.
Sharks acquire forward Nyquist from Red Wings

Wouldn’t the lower of the two be the Sharks pick? The Florida pick is part of the Karlsson deal.

 

[FrolundaRedWings]

I am afraid the rebuild will live longer than anyone of us bargained for. Like, a decade or two.

In 2 decades Zadina will be 39. I doubt it takes us that long to be a competent team again..

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Wouldn’t the lower of the two be the Sharks pick? The Florida pick is part of the Karlsson deal.

This is from an article I found:

Ottawa will still have an early pick from San Jose in June though, perhaps even earlier than expected. The condition on that pick is that it is the highest of the second-round picks owned by the Sharks: their own and the Florida Panthers’, which ironically was part of the return from the Sharks’ flip of former Ottawa forward Mike Hoffman earlier this year.

So basically, SJ gives Ottawa the higher of the two, and DET gets the lowest.

But what do high and low mean here? Sometimes a high draft pick means a really good one. But 40 is objectively lower than 60.

More details of the Erik Karlsson trade revealed

 

[Reality Check]

I am afraid the rebuild will live longer than anyone of us bargained for. Like, a decade or two.

That's a price I'm willing to pay after winning four cups.

Nothing against Nyquist but keeping him beyond the deadline serves no purpose.

 

[Ezekial]

Wouldn’t the lower of the two be the Sharks pick? The Florida pick is part of the Karlsson deal.

42 is lower than 60.


You're right though, it probably means we get their shittier pick, that's lame as hell.

 

[kliq]

Happy with the deal. Its nothing to be ecstatic about, but I wasn't expecting anything more then a 2nd for Nyquist as deep down I always thought a 1st was wishful thinking.

Hopefully he goes and wins a cup in San Jose, then re-signs with us in the off-season to a reasonable contract. I love the chemistry he and Larkin have together and would like to see it continue.

 

[Shaman464]

Grade C:

Given: Nyquist (top 6 forward, having a career year) retained salary.
Get: 2 picks 2019 2nd (not sure but looking like a late second), 2020 3rd round (likely late).

So basically, its the Zucc deal, but with worse conditions. Not that I wanted to keep Nyquist, but, I feel he still was worth more than this.

 

[Shaman464]

Happy with the deal. Its nothing to be ecstatic about, but I wasn't expecting anything more then a 2nd for Nyquist as deep down I always thought a 1st was wishful thinking.

Hopefully he goes and wins a cup in San Jose, then re-signs with us in the off-season to a reasonable contract. I love the chemistry he and Larkin have together and would like to see it continue.[/QUOTE]

Jesus just no! Him having a career year, and a cup ring will mean his ask will be waaay above his actual worth.