William Nylander Value/Contract

[Community]

IMO they are each currently worth:
7 x 8 for Nylander
8 x 8 for Marner
11 x 8 for Matthews

Hopefully they each take a slight discount, but anything at or below these numbers is fine IMO.

 

[Raym11]

7m for Nylander would be my ceiling this summer, Hopefully no more than 6.5

 

[Flipwon]

6x6.5 for nylander incoming. You're welcome.

 

[Peiskos]

IMO they are each currently worth:
7 x 8 for Nylander
8 x 8 for Marner
11 x 8 for Matthews

Hopefully they each take a slight discount, but anything at or below these numbers is fine IMO.

Add in Tavares at 11 x 7 is four players at a combined 37 million sustainable?

 

[Magic16Mitch]

I don't want to give him a dime over 6. Great player but until he learns to play his ass off, he's not worth big money. For those who thought Willie > Marner (I used to be one of them), I think Willie just donated his share of 0.5-1 mil to Mitch over this playoff series.

And next year it could be Nylander that is better than Mitch. This is why we need to make a nice deal with Nylander because after next season, Mitch is likely to get something similiar. They are equally good players, the only thing is that Mitch had great form in most recent memory. Sign Willy to 6,5 a year and I'll be very happy

 

[Magic16Mitch]

When is Nylander likely to sign his contract btw?

 

[SniperOnTheWing]

When is Nylander likely to sign his contract btw?

Now that the big fish is landed, they know what the cap situation is looking like longer term, and Willy's role is now essentially dialed in (winger rather than future center) I would say Dubas has a pretty good idea where they'd like to go with his contract.

My guess remains around $6.5M for six years, falling between the comparable wingers like Ehlers and Pastrnak.

As for when it's signed they have time to work it out but I'm guessing he's next up on the to-do list after the Tavares signing.

 

[Faltorvo]

7m for Nylander would be my ceiling this summer, Hopefully no more than 6.5

6m MAX

Ehlers contract starts this season at that cap hit with the better numbers.

should balance out the cap raise.

 

[Faltorvo]

Now that the big fish is landed, they know what the cap situation is looking like longer term, and Willy's role is now essentially dialed in (winger rather than future center) I would say Dubas has a pretty good idea where they'd like to go with his contract.

My guess remains around $6.5M for six years, falling between the comparable wingers like Ehlers and Pastrnak.

As for when it's signed they have time to work it out but I'm guessing he's next up on the to-do list after the Tavares signing.

willy is not in the same conversation as pastrnak

 

[Walshy7]

6m MAX

Ehlers contract starts this season at that cap hit with the better numbers.

should balance out the cap raise.

Doesn’t matter when his contract starts it’s when he signed it, you can’t count this past seasons numbers were after his contract was signed. With the cap rise a similar contract to ehlers would be $6.25~$6.5m

 

[DarkKnight]

IMO they are each currently worth:
7 x 8 for Nylander
8 x 8 for Marner
11 x 8 for Matthews

Hopefully they each take a slight discount, but anything at or below these numbers is fine IMO.

Dubas mentioned JT leaving money on the table and referenced the coming contracts in that context. Clearly, the organization will use JT as a template to push everyone to take slightly less for the greater good.

 

[Faltorvo]

Add in Tavares at 11 x 7 is four players at a combined 37 million sustainable?

Wash just won the cup with a

9.5
7.8
6.7
6.1
5.75
5.75
5.1

oh and did i mention,,,,,,, they just added a 8m???????

save for JT the ONLY active contract we have over 5 million leaves in 2 seasons

 

[SniperOnTheWing]

willy is not in the same conversation as pastrnak

That's why I said 'falling between'. And with the cap rising as much as it has since Pasta signed $6.5M is absolutely fair for Nylander.

 

[PromisedLand]

any news on whats happening with Willy's extension? and what about Gardiner?

 

[TMLeafs17]

Almost everyone seems to underrate what Willy has done in his first 2+ seasons as a Maple Leaf. If we were ever to move him (we definitely should NOT), the return would/should be a heck of a lot closer to Jones (when the Johansen deal was made) than Tanev.

 

[Nylander88]

6 years @ 6 million per (36 million)
Or
8 years @ 7 million per (56 million)

Those would be my offers. I believe that is fair. One is pretty well on mark with Ehlers and Pastrnak. And the second is an extra million per year (and 20 million overall) to buy a couple more of his Free agent years. I believe Nylander even at 7 million per, with a rising cap, will look good in a few years time

 

[Menzinger]

6m MAX

Ehlers contract starts this season at that cap hit with the better numbers.

should balance out the cap raise.

It was signed before the cap was confirmed to be increased though. It was negotiated during the old cap amount. Inflation should be expected for the Nylander contract, but do agree that it’s one of his closest comparables.

 

[Nylander88]

Dubas mentioned JT leaving money on the table and referenced the coming contracts in that context. Clearly, the organization will use JT as a template to push everyone to take slightly less for the greater good.

Exactly! People in the media always mentioning trading Nylander. They didnt bring in Tavares to trade one of our young guns. Tavares was drawn to our "big 3", the quality of firepower he'd be joining, and the plans the organization had going forward. Its now "the big 4" and theyre here to stay..

 

[Kiwi]

Doesn’t matter when his contract starts it’s when he signed it, you can’t count this past seasons numbers were after his contract was signed. With the cap rise a similar contract to ehlers would be $6.25~$6.5m

I'd ballpark it in that range to Walshy

If he wants more you make him sit and wait until he's willing to do that deal, sucks being an RFA

 

[hullsy47]

any news on whats happening with Willy's extension? and what about Gardiner?

he gets bigger bucks only if he can play center ...bridge deal or move him out

 

[mapleleaf979]

Id offer Nylander a 2 yr deal to see if he remains an enigma or not. A player that plays with little emotion despite having a dominate skillset as his disposal.

Do I think Matthews like Nylander as a line mate? Overall, I would say no. Matthews has his own compete level issues at times granted but Nylander shows up less and leaves his line to do more work as he floats around. Nylander is not a reliable hockey player.

 

[Faltorvo]

Id offer Nylander a 2 yr deal to see if he remains an enigma or not. A player that plays with little emotion despite having a dominate skillset as his disposal.

Do I think Matthews like Nylander as a line mate? Overall, I would say no. Matthews has his own compete level issues at times granted but Nylander shows up less and leaves his line to do more work as he floats around. Nylander is not a reliable hockey player.

willi here is 7 years at 6/6.2m

oh no don't like that , dang please hold,,,,, it's shanny on the phone

sir yes, i know our D needs a blue chip upgrade but sir that takes real resources to obtain ,, but i might have an idea, can i call you back?

now willi,,,, 6m/7y , that was a no right????

 

[Menzinger]

If the Leafs can get Nylander locked up for under 7 million for 6-8 years it has the potential to be one of the best valued contracts on the team.

Especially if he stars to approach PPG territory as he enters his prime

 

[mapleleaf979]

With Tavares on board, Leafs made up there mind Willy is not a center to them.

Predict Nylanders future?
1) A guy who continues to grow, ups his compete level and becomes a stud. To me Nylander and Matt Barzal have identical tools. Only one difference between Barzal and Nylander, the mental aspect of the game. Confidence,passion, willpower.

2) A player that always leaves u wanting more. It does not take a smart person to see Nylander give half ass effort on far too many nights. He has Barzals hands, skating, vision, a better shot, playmaking etc...but does not appear to have any desire to fulfill that game in and game out.

*Everything right now points to 2) With that being said, u cant trust a player like that. Nylander must have lost trust from his team-mates in the playoffs. I watched 75 plus games a year, I have no clue game in and game out which Nylander will show up that night.

 

[Svanstrom]

Id offer Nylander a 2 yr deal to see if he remains an enigma or not. A player that plays with little emotion despite having a dominate skillset as his disposal.

Do I think Matthews like Nylander as a line mate? Overall, I would say no. Matthews has his own compete level issues at times granted but Nylander shows up less and leaves his line to do more work as he floats around. Nylander is not a reliable hockey player.

It's just interesting to see how far removed some people are here. The kid just turned 22 and has two straight seasons with 61 points while not consitently getting big PP minutes, like lets say Ovechkin.
I don't see any big problems with Nylanders character either, in the right enviroment he will mature into an even bigger star than he already is. At the same time it's also the team staffs job to guide their young talents in their early careers, giving them all the tools nessecary to succeed both on and off the ice. I for one have confidence in Nylander as well as the staff.
Nylanders value is probably right around 6.5 to 7 million just like most hockey experts actually expect, like it or not.